Death/Black/Thrash Voting Discussion Thread

Adam · **Posted:** Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:11 pm

Adveser wrote:

OldSchool wrote:

Shouldn't melodeath have a thread of its own? There would be plenty of people to vote for it. It looks out of place in the death thread and it would be awkard for a melodeath band to come out number one.

I agree. I think these bands have more in common with acts like sonata arctica and stratovarius than napalm death

Once again, it's not that I don't agree with both of you, but trust me when I say that if we start breaking out every voting thread into subgenres, the whole system will get very diluted and confusing. Just stick melodeath in death metal please.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:01 pm

Dago wrote:

Skeletonwitch under thrash?

yup

It's either black or thrash and it shares a lot more with thrash than it does black metal.

Dago · **Posted:** Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:10 pm

traptunderice wrote:

Dago wrote:

Skeletonwitch under thrash?

yup

It's either black or thrash and it shares a lot more with thrash than it does black metal.

Definetely! :dio:

unreal · **Joined:** Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:31 pm **Posts:** 126

speed metal like agent steel etc, should you go for the genre that is closest related with the band, (like agent steel -> thrash and amulance->heavy metal) ?

do you consider Sodom - The Final Sign Of Evil as a new release?

Adam · **Posted:** Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:41 pm

unreal wrote:

speed metal like agent steel etc, should you go for the genre that is closest related with the band, (like agent steel -> thrash and amulance->heavy metal) ?

Yes, you are on the right track.

unreal wrote:

do you consider Sodom - The Final Sign Of Evil as a new release?

Yeah, I know its a re-recording, but that doesn't change the fact that '07 is the first year it has been available. Leave it in.

Tyrion · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:34 am

In the BM thread, AlexandeR appears to have inadvertently listed A World Through Dead Eyes instead of The Haunting Presence, the latter of which is the 2007 release.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:01 am

Tyrion wrote:

In the BM thread, AlexandeR appears to have inadvertently listed A World Through Dead Eyes instead of The Haunting Presence, the latter of which is the 2007 release.

Fink.

j/k... I hate the abbreviation j/k.

rio · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:56 am

Stefan wrote:

Dodheimsgard - Supervillain Outcast

Is it acceptable in a black metal category?

Yes but not acceptable in any top 5 lists of the year :wink:

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:10 am

Red Harvest in black metal? :blink:

I have to check that album out.

crast · **Joined:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:29 pm **Posts:** 1502

Hmm

People seem to be putting the new Anaal Nathrakh into black
metal, so I'll do that as well. What about the latest Primordial?
Avant guard? New Amorphis in deathmetal? or rock?

.:crast:.

Caligula_K · **Joined:** Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:56 pm **Posts:** 3561

Adam wrote:

unreal wrote:

do you consider Sodom - The Final Sign Of Evil as a new release?

Yeah, I know its a re-recording, but that doesn't change the fact that '07 is the first year it has been available. Leave it in.

Disagreed- I mean yes, they did re-record it, but its essentially a best of.

unreal · **Joined:** Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:31 pm **Posts:** 126

Brahm_K wrote:

Adam wrote:

unreal wrote:

do you consider Sodom - The Final Sign Of Evil as a new release?

Yeah, I know its a re-recording, but that doesn't change the fact that '07 is the first year it has been available. Leave it in.

Disagreed- I mean yes, they did re-record it, but its essentially a best of.

I disagree, there are 7 previously unreleased songs on it. And the other songs are rereleases from sign of evil ep.

unreal · **Joined:** Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:31 pm **Posts:** 126

I got a message to remove moonspell (Under Satanae) and sigh, So i did, but I really see those albums as black metal albums.

Adam · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:20 pm

unreal wrote:

I got a message to remove moonspell (Under Satanae) and sigh, So i did, but I really see those albums as black metal albums.

I sent you the message. Moonspell is dark/gothic metal, and Sigh is avant-garde. They both have elements of black, but that doesn't make them black metal.

Adam · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:22 pm

Brahm_K wrote:

Adam wrote:

unreal wrote:

do you consider Sodom - The Final Sign Of Evil as a new release?

Yeah, I know its a re-recording, but that doesn't change the fact that '07 is the first year it has been available. Leave it in.

Disagreed- I mean yes, they did re-record it, but its essentially a best of.

I don't think that it's really going to matter as it probably won't get enough votes to figure in the top few anyway. I just think that since '07 is the first time you could have heard this version of those songs, it works.

Rhys · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:53 pm

Where would Rotting Christ- Theogonia belong?

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:05 pm

following the reaper wrote:

Where would Rotting Christ- Theogonia belong?

Everyone seems to be putting it in the Gothic/Dark thread.

crast · **Joined:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:29 pm **Posts:** 1502

crast wrote:

What about the latest Primordial? Avant guard?
New Amorphis in deathmetal? or rock?

Rotting Christ?

.:crast:.

So? What does the jury say?

.:crast:.

Rhys · **Posted:** Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:31 pm

Where would N.I.L go?

Karmakosmonaut · **Posted:** Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:13 pm

traptunderice wrote:

Red Harvest in black metal? :blink:

I have to check that album out.

They've always had a very strong BM undercurrent to me.

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