Dissection - Black Metal or not?

Anonymous · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:24 pm

The more I listen to them, the more I hear Gothenburg.

Dylan@Metalreviews · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:31 pm

Maybe their last album, but the older stuff is definitely black metal. It's just black metal made by guys that knew how to play their instruments well and weren't afraid to hide it.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:45 pm

There's very little black metal in their music. More like a harsher gothenburg with black metal vocals.

Dago · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:19 pm

Kathaarian wrote:

There's very little black metal in their music. More like a harsher gothenburg with black metal vocals.

+1

TheOctavarius · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:08 pm

I agree with Kathy...

noodles · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:47 pm

black metal is basically a worse version of gothenburg anyways so whatever

Dago · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:28 pm

noodles wrote:

black metal is basically a worse version of gothenburg anyways so whatever

LoL man... :rolleyes:

Astaroth · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:39 pm

noodles wrote:

black metal is basically a worse version of gothenburg anyways so whatever

..grr.. why you little..?!?! :mad:

agree with Kathy anyways..

noodles · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:42 pm

i was kidding

but gothenburg and melodic BM sound practically the same to me, most of the difference is in the vocals @_@

Eternal Idol · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:17 pm

Melodic Death Metal all the way. Dissection has certainly influenced many a Black Metal band, but they are not Black Metal in the least.

Legacy Of The Night · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:32 pm

noodles wrote:

i was kidding

but gothenburg and melodic BM sound practically the same to me, most of the difference is in the vocals @_@

I don't hear any Gothenburg in Borknagar. O.o

Dago · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:11 am

or Emperor.

noodles · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:36 pm

who the hell are they

rio · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:42 pm

Karmakosmonaut wrote:

The more I listen to them, the more I hear Gothenburg.

I feel the same way as this. Although, there is kind of a grim frostbitten atmosphere that comes from BM that most gothenburg stuff doesn't have.

Angel Black · **Joined:** Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:54 pm **Posts:** 342

Due to the extremely signifcant fact that Dissection was always fueled by Satan, and that Jon conceived every song to praise the Lord I'm positive that Dissection was a true black metal band (despite some thrash/death influenced riffing) ;)

Cenotaph · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:07 pm

rio wrote:

Karmakosmonaut wrote:

The more I listen to them, the more I hear Gothenburg.

I feel the same way as this. Although, there is kind of a grim frostbitten atmosphere that comes from BM that most gothenburg stuff doesn't have.

Exactly. The music isn't very black metal although there are influences, but the atmosphere it conveys is very close to it. I don't care what it is, or isn't, however, their first two albums are superior to any black metal album I know either way.

Angel Black · **Joined:** Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:54 pm **Posts:** 342

Cenotaph wrote:

rio wrote:

Karmakosmonaut wrote:

The more I listen to them, the more I hear Gothenburg.

I feel the same way as this. Although, there is kind of a grim frostbitten atmosphere that comes from BM that most gothenburg stuff doesn't have.

Exactly. The music isn't very black metal although there are influences, but the atmosphere it conveys is very close to it. I don't care what it is, or isn't, however, their first two albums are superior to any black metal album I know either way.

Yesssssss. And as we all know - black metal is first and foremost atmosphere.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:37 pm

Pfft. Yes, black metal is all atmosphere but black metal is black metal. And gothenburg is gothenburg. By that logic someone can make a black metal record with a string quartet, which somehow seemed like a good idea instantly as I was trying to prove the opposite.

Hmmm. Can something still be black metal but made with other instruments and/or following other influences in music (like gothenburg in this case)?

I think this can make a thread of his own. I'm not so sure about my answer, honestly.

Angel Black · **Joined:** Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:54 pm **Posts:** 342

Kathaarian wrote:

Pfft. Yes, black metal is all atmosphere but black metal is black metal. And gothenburg is gothenburg. By that logic someone can make a black metal record with a string quartet, which somehow seemed like a good idea instantly as I was trying to prove the opposite.

Hmmm. Can something still be black metal but made with other instruments and/or following other influences in music (like gothenburg in this case)?

I think this can make a thread of his own. I'm not so sure about my answer, honestly.

But is BM only music?
Take a look on Sunn O))) - Black One. It's Doom/Drone but the atmosphere is pure black metal.

Take some records of Henrik Nordvargr Bjork. Mz.412 for instance. It's industrial, dark ambient but the atmosphere is pure black metal.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:59 pm

Angel Black wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

Pfft. Yes, black metal is all atmosphere but black metal is black metal. And gothenburg is gothenburg. By that logic someone can make a black metal record with a string quartet, which somehow seemed like a good idea instantly as I was trying to prove the opposite.

Hmmm. Can something still be black metal but made with other instruments and/or following other influences in music (like gothenburg in this case)?

I think this can make a thread of his own. I'm not so sure about my answer, honestly.

But is BM only music?
Take a look on Sunn O))) - Black One. It's Doom/Drone but the atmosphere is pure black metal.

Take some records of Henrik Nordvargr Bjork. Mz.412 for instance. It's industrial, dark ambient but the atmosphere is pure black metal.

Don't know the latter but I agree with sunn O))) and also Nortt can be considered black metal in that sense. But does it qualify only because of it's bleak atmosphere?

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