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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:57 pm 
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araya is quite religious yes...hypocrit.

well anyways. i dont like religious bashing either. But ProNazi lyrical themes makes me wanna puke really bad. I just cant listen to ProHitler stuff and actually enjoy it. i listen to alot of anti-religion though i have been religous in my earlier days. I do not like it, but it is not as bad as NS


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hey, sorry if you like reggae, it's just that i can't stand it. i can't understand this bob marley worship when every single song just sounds so damn boring.

and every band uses that same guitar sound on their music, i can't explain it but it's instantly recognizable as a "reggae" thing. EVERY-SINGLE-SONG has it!

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And of course, a religious person is completely incapable of criticising their own religion. Oh no, they are all bigoted, close-minded fools, don't you know, completely incapable of seeing the opposite side of an argument!

:rolleyes: Not everyone's Dave Mustaine.


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Araya said that he 'doesn't believe God Hates Us All it is just a cool title' or something along those lines. Criticizing your own religion is understandable but saying something completely contradictory to your beliefs is stupid and hypocritical. Evangelism obviously doesn't play a role in his beliefs.

As for Bob Marley worship, that is mainly due to his support of marijuana.


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Believing that God hates you sounds pretty Christian to me.


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and every band uses that same guitar sound on their music, i can't explain it but it's instantly recognizable as a "reggae" thing. EVERY-SINGLE-SONG has it!

I'm sure a lot of people would say the same thing about metal... I don't understand how people can hate reggae, its just like chill relaxing music :O

Also I can see criticizing your own religion in an intelligent and insightufl manner but I wouldn't really call Slayer's lyrics intelligent or insightful. Their lyrics just seem like a gimmick to provoke people.


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and every band uses that same guitar sound on their music, i can't explain it but it's instantly recognizable as a "reggae" thing. EVERY-SINGLE-SONG has it!

I'm sure a lot of people would say the same thing about metal... I don't understand how people can hate reggae, its just like chill relaxing music :O

Also I can see criticizing your own religion in an intelligent and insightufl manner but I wouldn't really call Slayer's lyrics intelligent or insightful. Their lyrics just seem like a gimmick to provoke people.


So maybe Araya's a bit thick, bless. Maybe he thought this stuff would appeal more to Slayer fans, who don't exactly listen to it for the lyrics, do they? At the end of the day, what does it matter when countless bands sing about killing people when they would never do so themselves?

That wasn't directed at you, Jeff, just using you as a conduit, so to speak.


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Metalcore needs to crawl in a hole and die the death it deserves.

I heard a Metalcore band with a vocoder. They sounded like fucking Eiffel 65. It's embarrassing.


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Araya said that he 'doesn't believe God Hates Us All it is just a cool title' or something along those lines. Criticizing your own religion is understandable but saying something completely contradictory to your beliefs is stupid and hypocritical. Evangelism obviously doesn't play a role in his beliefs.

As for Bob Marley worship, that is mainly due to his support of marijuana.


I'd say it has more to do with him being a voice for the poor living in the ghettos of Jamaica. That's really what Reggae is supposed to be about anyways. All that pop stuff is force fed by the radio.

My girlfriend is Jamaican, actually, and she's shown me some of the real reggae that they listen to over there Many of the songs deal with the political and social problems that Jamaicans face. There is an underground scene just like what we have with metal vs metalcore/nu metal. Of course there is a sexualized pop element designed for the club scene, but that's not the end all and be all of Reggae.

Once song that I like can found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdIl3BqDnJc

It has some choirs in there that some of the metal fans may like. It's a critical song about men who just go to church to meet women. Just one quick example that not every song is about bitches and bling.


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traptunderice wrote:
Araya said that he 'doesn't believe God Hates Us All it is just a cool title' or something along those lines. Criticizing your own religion is understandable but saying something completely contradictory to your beliefs is stupid and hypocritical. Evangelism obviously doesn't play a role in his beliefs.

As for Bob Marley worship, that is mainly due to his support of marijuana.


I'd say it has more to do with him being a voice for the poor living in the ghettos of Jamaica. That's really what Reggae is supposed to be about anyways. All that pop stuff is force fed by the radio.

My girlfriend is Jamaican, actually, and she's shown me some of the real reggae that they listen to over there Many of the songs deal with the political and social problems that Jamaicans face. There is an underground scene just like what we have with metal vs metalcore/nu metal. Of course there is a sexualized pop element designed for the club scene, but that's not the end all and be all of Reggae.

Once song that I like can found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdIl3BqDnJc

It has some choirs in there that some of the metal fans may like. It's a critical song about men who just go to church to meet women. Just one quick example that not every song is about bitches and bling.


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To be honest, I think the whole "MARIJUANA IZ TEH ROXORS!!!!!11111" trend in music is stupid. If you think about it, what's so awesome about smoking something that ruins your mind along with other vital organs in your body? What are you accomplishing? What are you doing that's "cool/neat" anyway? It's just because marijuana smoking has become a symbol of rebelliousness over the years (after all, every parent rightfully warns his/her kids not to get into it) that people like Phil Anselmo glorify it as if it's the coolest thing ever. When it's really just something bored teenagers use to shock their parents and lazily relieve stress.


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To be honest, I think the whole "MARIJUANA IZ TEH ROXORS!!!!!11111" trend in music is stupid. If you think about it, what's so awesome about smoking something that ruins your mind along with other vital organs in your body? What are you accomplishing? What are you doing that's "cool/neat" anyway? It's just because marijuana smoking has become a symbol of rebelliousness over the years (after all, every parent rightfully warns his/her kids not to get into it) that people like Phil Anselmo glorify it as if it's the coolest thing ever. When it's really just something bored teenagers use to shock their parents and lazily relieve stress.


You know full well that's never been proven. And I'd say drugs were mentioned very rarely in metal!


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and every band uses that same guitar sound on their music, i can't explain it but it's instantly recognizable as a "reggae" thing. EVERY-SINGLE-SONG has it!

I'm sure a lot of people would say the same thing about metal... I don't understand how people can hate reggae, its just like chill relaxing music :O

Also I can see criticizing your own religion in an intelligent and insightufl manner but I wouldn't really call Slayer's lyrics intelligent or insightful. Their lyrics just seem like a gimmick to provoke people.


So maybe Araya's a bit thick, bless. Maybe he thought this stuff would appeal more to Slayer fans, who don't exactly listen to it for the lyrics, do they? At the end of the day, what does it matter when countless bands sing about killing people when they would never do so themselves?

That wasn't directed at you, Jeff, just using you as a conduit, so to speak.


That's part of the reason why I get pissed off at all the anti-religious rants metal bands go into with their music. This may come as a shock to some, but MOST CHRISTIANS ARE NOT THESE BIBLE-THUMPING JESUS FREAKS WHO GO AROUND PROSLETYZING AND TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO. Granted, some are. But most of them are not. They enjoy heavy music, South Park, etc. just like everybody else. May be they have slightly stricter moral standards. But not to the point of being the bible-thumping occultists a lot of metal bands make them out to be.


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Seinfeld26 wrote:
To be honest, I think the whole "MARIJUANA IZ TEH ROXORS!!!!!11111" trend in music is stupid. If you think about it, what's so awesome about smoking something that ruins your mind along with other vital organs in your body? What are you accomplishing? What are you doing that's "cool/neat" anyway? It's just because marijuana smoking has become a symbol of rebelliousness over the years (after all, every parent rightfully warns his/her kids not to get into it) that people like Phil Anselmo glorify it as if it's the coolest thing ever. When it's really just something bored teenagers use to shock their parents and lazily relieve stress.

so... you've never smoked weed, huh

also it only ruins your mind/body if you smoke copious amounts of it, which you probably deserve for getting addicted to the least addictive drug in the first place.


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Seinfeld26 wrote:
To be honest, I think the whole "MARIJUANA IZ TEH ROXORS!!!!!11111" trend in music is stupid. If you think about it, what's so awesome about smoking something that ruins your mind along with other vital organs in your body? What are you accomplishing? What are you doing that's "cool/neat" anyway? It's just because marijuana smoking has become a symbol of rebelliousness over the years (after all, every parent rightfully warns his/her kids not to get into it) that people like Phil Anselmo glorify it as if it's the coolest thing ever. When it's really just something bored teenagers use to shock their parents and lazily relieve stress.

so... you've never smoked weed, huh
I haven't.


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To be honest, I think the whole "MARIJUANA IZ TEH ROXORS!!!!!11111" trend in music is stupid. If you think about it, what's so awesome about smoking something that ruins your mind along with other vital organs in your body? What are you accomplishing? What are you doing that's "cool/neat" anyway? It's just because marijuana smoking has become a symbol of rebelliousness over the years (after all, every parent rightfully warns his/her kids not to get into it) that people like Phil Anselmo glorify it as if it's the coolest thing ever. When it's really just something bored teenagers use to shock their parents and lazily relieve stress.


You know full well that's never been proven. And I'd say drugs were mentioned very rarely in metal!


I wasn't really refering to metal in particular. Actually, I agree that drug use is probably less rampant in metal than it is in rap and punk music.


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To be honest, I think the whole "MARIJUANA IZ TEH ROXORS!!!!!11111" trend in music is stupid. If you think about it, what's so awesome about smoking something that ruins your mind along with other vital organs in your body? What are you accomplishing? What are you doing that's "cool/neat" anyway? It's just because marijuana smoking has become a symbol of rebelliousness over the years (after all, every parent rightfully warns his/her kids not to get into it) that people like Phil Anselmo glorify it as if it's the coolest thing ever. When it's really just something bored teenagers use to shock their parents and lazily relieve stress.

so... you've never smoked weed, huh


Well, no. But I've had some friends who did. Two of which actually ruined their lives because that's all they would ever do. And the whole idea of "getting high" is just stupid. Basically, you're artificially relieving stress and retreating into a fantasy world, rather than living in reality. There are far more productive ways you can relieve stress than using pot. You don't necessarily have to have tried drugs to be aware of how stupid and useless they really are.


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also it only ruins your mind/body if you smoke copious amounts of it, which you probably deserve for getting addicted to the least addictive drug in the first place.


I know that trying it once or twice probably won't do anything to you. But that doesn't make it any less of a waste of time.


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To be honest, I think the whole "MARIJUANA IZ TEH ROXORS!!!!!11111" trend in music is stupid. If you think about it, what's so awesome about smoking something that ruins your mind along with other vital organs in your body? What are you accomplishing? What are you doing that's "cool/neat" anyway? It's just because marijuana smoking has become a symbol of rebelliousness over the years (after all, every parent rightfully warns his/her kids not to get into it) that people like Phil Anselmo glorify it as if it's the coolest thing ever. When it's really just something bored teenagers use to shock their parents and lazily relieve stress.


You know full well that's never been proven. And I'd say drugs were mentioned very rarely in metal!


I wasn't really refering to metal in particular. Actually, I agree that drug use is probably less rampant in metal than it is in rap and punk music.


My bad, you mentioned Anselmo so I assumed.

As for weed, sure, you can let it control your life, but then you can let many things control your life - food, for instance - and it's basically a sign of a weak will, no offence to your friends, Sein.


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My bad, you mentioned Anselmo so I assumed.

As for weed, sure, you can let it control your life, but then you can let many things control your life - food, for instance - and it's basically a sign of a weak will, no offence to your friends, Sein.


My thoughts exactly. There's nothing wrong in smoking it every now and then, but smoking it all the time is really stupid.


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