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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:10 pm 
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Rick Rubin is a big fat queef. This is doomed from the start. I bet it's a cross betweeen St. Anger and Christ Illusion, which are both horrendous albums. Maybe Rick will convinve them to have a Beastie Boys guest spot for a Suck Trifecta.

Why does it take these losers four years at a minimum to put anything out now? It's not like they're writing Prog Magnum Opus'. I could have written St Anger during a long visit to the toilet. Take one shitty "heavy" riff and proceed to run it into the ground for 7 minutes, repeat this formula for the remaining 72 minutes.

Face it folks, these guys are completely out of touch with not only thier fanbase, but with reality itself. The odds of anything of value coming from their multi-millon dollar mansions is nill. I look forward to the day when this musical equivalent of Barbaro gets put to sleep.


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"He's questioning what key we should play in," Ulrich told Rolling Stone. "We've played in E flat since the beginning of the '90s. Nobody questioned it. All of a sudden, Rick is going, 'Maybe the stuff has more energy and Hetfield's voice sounds better in E.' He's forced us to rethink big-picture stuff, something we haven't done in years."


I find D minor to be the saddest of all keys. Grown men have been known to break down and weep just at the sound of it.

LARS THE KEY IT'S IN MAKES NO DIFFERENCE


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Only drunk teenagers make good thrash metal so I doubt old millionaires in need of therapists will.


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On the plus side, maybe they'll do a proper tour over here for the first time this century


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I'm trying not to take much notice of all the articles and updates leading to the new album. I just wanna hear it when it comes out and hopefully enjoy it more than St. Anger.

If its a cross between the loads and the black album, then that would be satisfactory. Cant expect anything better than that.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:53 am 
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"He's questioning what key we should play in," Ulrich told Rolling Stone. "We've played in E flat since the beginning of the '90s. Nobody questioned it. All of a sudden, Rick is going, 'Maybe the stuff has more energy and Hetfield's voice sounds better in E.' He's forced us to rethink big-picture stuff, something we haven't done in years."


I find D minor to be the saddest of all keys. Grown men have been known to break down and weep just at the sound of it.

LARS THE KEY IT'S IN MAKES NO DIFFERENCE


Fuck, I actually liked the half-step tuning Metallica used from late-1994 onward better than the standard tuning they were using earlier. It just has a more lucious/organic sound to it IMO. Slayer, Iced Earth, Alice In Chains. All of these are heavy bands that use Eb/Ab/Bb/etc. tuning.

For the record, has anybody else here ever noticed an odd correlation between "selling out" and "tuning your guitars down half a step"? Metallica's Load, Megadeth's Youthanasia, Testament's The Ritual, Sepultura's Chaos AD. All of those albums showed their respective bands (for the first time) tuning their guitars down half a step - and were also considered their "sell outs" by some.


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Based on that leaked song, I heard nothing different from the previous malignancy.



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Based on that leaked song, I heard nothing different from the previous malignancy.



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leaked song? where?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:23 am 
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DeathScream\m/ wrote:
Based on that leaked song, I heard nothing different from the previous malignancy.



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leaked song? where?

There are two known "new" songs. One sounds like something from the Load/Reload period; the other sounds like a punk song. Now, whether or not these two songs show up on any upcoming album is unknown. I'd like to think Metallica wouldn't put a punk song on an album, but who knows.

LOAD/RELOAD-ISH SONG

That one is pretty good, but this song has two things going against it:

1. James isn't very good live, never has been.
2. It's not thrashy or anything close to this; thus old school fans are going to hate it no matter what.

It's changed a bit since they first played it live, so I assume it's still evolving. But with a nice studio take on it, I think it would blow everything on St. Anger away. And there's a decent solo.

Gotta love Trujillo's Freudian slip. :lol:

PUNK SONG

Good for a punk band. Not good for Metallica. Reminds me of when they covered Misfits.


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rio wrote:
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"He's questioning what key we should play in," Ulrich told Rolling Stone. "We've played in E flat since the beginning of the '90s. Nobody questioned it. All of a sudden, Rick is going, 'Maybe the stuff has more energy and Hetfield's voice sounds better in E.' He's forced us to rethink big-picture stuff, something we haven't done in years."


I find D minor to be the saddest of all keys. Grown men have been known to break down and weep just at the sound of it.

LARS THE KEY IT'S IN MAKES NO DIFFERENCE
I would really question that decision on Rubin's part. Usually when someone damages their voice, singing in a higher key is more difficult, which I'm pretty sure is that post-black album tunings have been below standard E. Anyway, I think it's a sign that ideas are running a bit thin in the Metallica camp when Lars mentions tuning up a half step as if it is some new and unexplored idea...


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following the reaper wrote:
DeathScream\m/ wrote:
Based on that leaked song, I heard nothing different from the previous malignancy.



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leaked song? where?

There are two known "new" songs. One sounds like something from the Load/Reload period; the other sounds like a punk song. Now, whether or not these two songs show up on any upcoming album is unknown. I'd like to think Metallica wouldn't put a punk song on an album, but who knows.

LOAD/RELOAD-ISH SONG

That one is pretty good, but this song has two things going against it:

1. James isn't very good live, never has been.
2. It's not thrashy or anything close to this; thus old school fans are going to hate it no matter what.

It's changed a bit since they first played it live, so I assume it's still evolving. But with a nice studio take on it, I think it would blow everything on St. Anger away. And there's a decent solo.

Gotta love Trujillo's Freudian slip. :lol:

PUNK SONG

Good for a punk band. Not good for Metallica. Reminds me of when they covered Misfits.


The load-ish one wasnt that bad.


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You can also watch them perform the 2 new tracks live at festivals on Youtube. I'd link them but the Metalli-Lawyers close them down so quickly.


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There were creative elements on St. Anger? This truly is shocking news.


Of course there were. Dint that album show us how trash cans could be used as drums? :P

No, that's been done before... And better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj8qoW6Fas0


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:36 pm 
Metallica doing a punk-like song really shouldn't be that surprising. Even Kill'em All had a definite punk influence.

Anyway, I thought those two live songs were pretty decent. I like the intro for the Load-like song a lot, and the "verses" kind of remind me of Ritual-era Testament. And the punk-like song is basically what Invisible Kid should've sounded like.


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I understand that Kill 'Em All has punk influence, but not a Green Day style punk influence.


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Wo cares about this band any longer. The attention is only directed towards this band because they can earn you some dollars. That is all they are worth. Dollars. I can't call it music.


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Metallica started out as a decent NWOBHM cover band (listen to early Metallica and compare it to stuff that was coming out of England before that, and there isn't the tiniest bit of innovation to be found in Metallica's music), basically, with some potential, then they turned into pop metallers trying to pose as bad dudes. "Oh, look at me! I'm angry and depressed now!" Okay, yeah, whatever. Stop acting like a freaking baby. Their music was never anywhere near as tough as they tried to act.

Creativity has never been their strongest point, either, so it's an exercise in futility to expect much from them. They've been irrelevant for many, many years.

That being said, I laughed harder than I had in years when I first listened to "St. Anger" (which I still can't believe wasn't a parody), so we could be in for another comic masterpiece!


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Yeah, that was some funny shit


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I'm not sure if I really expect another heavy album here. I'm pretty sure it can't be as good as their golden years, not even as good as the black album but as long as the music is pleasant I have no problem with what they play. What Rick Rubin said does indeed make it sound a little promising and gives some hope. Not hope for another "golden" thrash album but hope for something better than St. Anger.


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