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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:22 pm 
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One, you need to learn the difference between NATIONAL SOCIALISM and NAZI SOCIALISM.


NS = National Socialist = Nazi.

But someone who has nationalist/fascist/racist/antisemitic ideas is not necessarily a national socialist. National socialism was more than just antisemitism and racism. National socialism also has very clearly defined social and economic political ideas.


Agreed with the first part: It's purely semantics, however. You can be a nationalist, and a socialist combined with that, but the phrase "national socialist" is so tied to Hitler that you can't realistically consider it to mean anything but Nazism.


I don't consider national socialism anything but nazism. I was just saying that although fascist ideals and antisemitism fx. were a part of NS, being fascist or an antisemite doesn't necessarily make anyone a nazi. I said this because a lot of bands that have any kind of extreme right-wing or fascist political ideas get called NS, although they clearly are not.


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Jürgen wrote:
rio wrote:
Jürgen wrote:
Eternal Idol wrote:
One, you need to learn the difference between NATIONAL SOCIALISM and NAZI SOCIALISM.


NS = National Socialist = Nazi.

But someone who has nationalist/fascist/racist/antisemitic ideas is not necessarily a national socialist. National socialism was more than just antisemitism and racism. National socialism also has very clearly defined social and economic political ideas.


Agreed with the first part: It's purely semantics, however. You can be a nationalist, and a socialist combined with that, but the phrase "national socialist" is so tied to Hitler that you can't realistically consider it to mean anything but Nazism.


I don't consider national socialism anything but nazism.


Yeah I know I was agreeing with you :dio: :P


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