Shadows Fall

Anonymous · **Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:06 pm

...cecked out Burt By The Sun.. hell ! is this quality metalcore or what ??? :shock:

Anonymous · **Posted:** Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:49 am

Hell yeah they are. The drums bow down to Dave Witte. Although I'm probably biased because a friend of mine is friends with him, as well as a whole bunch of people my mom works with. Sadly, I've never met him, but you know what it's like when you find out you have a connection to someone, no matter how obscure.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:54 am

yeah sure... when you got connection with a band you just don't judge them as hard as you do with others... anyway, i have no connection with Burnt By The Sun and still enjoy them !

i suggest you try Between The Buried & Me (the album is "the silent circus" 2003)... it's a rare blend of extreme metal & hardcore... pretty spectacular !

Anonymous · **Posted:** Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:03 pm

Many people have extolled the virtues of Between the Buried and Me so I checked out their album. IT SUCKS!! I couldn't stand the vocals at all. That guy sounded like a monkey vomiting up razor blades. The drummer was pretty good but the riffs got boring. FAST. By the fifth song, I couldn't tell the tracks apart anymore. Lucky I didn't review this 'cause I would have slammed it.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:31 pm

so you didn't like it... i didn't like it either at my first try but after 3 or 4 listenings the album had grown a lot on me... it's not easy music (like Converge or The Dillinger Escape Plan) but it's woth the initial effort !

keep trying even if it's "hardcore" :wink:

Ruthless_Killer · **Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:23 pm

Its an ok album... Not too bad.. Actually i can consider it nice..
After listening to it a few times.. Nice solos n good riffs..

Dudeguy · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:02 am

whoa whats going on? Im sorry check out Throwdown, Terror, Comeback Kid, or With Honor before you label Shadows Fall hardcore, i really dont know what to say after that, but yeah....thats it.....Brian Fair has amazing dreads

unknownkadath666 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:01 am

its insane how long they are. Must be a pain in the ass.

shadows fall have some VERY hardcore tendencies. But all in all i wouldn't lump them in with hardcore, just cause there not shit.

hardcore/melo-death, or vice versa, if your one of those anal-retentive genre people

Dudeguy · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:37 pm

Jay@MetalReviews wrote:

Many people have extolled the virtues of Between the Buried and Me so I checked out their album. IT SUCKS!! I couldn't stand the vocals at all. That guy sounded like a monkey vomiting up razor blades. The drummer was pretty good but the riffs got boring. FAST. By the fifth song, I couldn't tell the tracks apart anymore. Lucky I didn't review this 'cause I would have slammed it.

yeah if i was expecting a sound like between the buried and me i would have gotten really pissed when i listened to the cd, but these guys sound nothing like BTBAM. I like shadows fall and BTBAM, i have all the cds for both bands, and i dont get how you could compare the way they both sound. BTBAM's new cd Alaska is coming out in early September, from what ive heard so far its amazing, yes ive listened to it, and no i didnt read it in a magazine with slipknot on the cover. http://www.purevolume.com/betweentheburiedandme check out alaska, amazing track, i think this album should be reviewed on metal reveiws when it hits shelves, im def gonna pick it up the day its released.

unknownkadath666 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:57 pm

i liked alaska tilled it stopped being the cool guitars and went into metalcore..

Radical Cut · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:19 am **Posts:** 960

Jay@MetalReviews wrote:

Many people have extolled the virtues of Between the Buried and Me so I checked out their album. IT SUCKS!! I couldn't stand the vocals at all. That guy sounded like a monkey vomiting up razor blades. The drummer was pretty good but the riffs got boring. FAST. By the fifth song, I couldn't tell the tracks apart anymore. Lucky I didn't review this 'cause I would have slammed it.

For once we agree. BTBAM is another band that I can't stop hearing about when I'm around the hardcore scene around here, or chatting it up on the magical internet. The vocals are awful all around, the melodic slow parts are meandering and border on just plain annoying, and the metal is generic.

Dudeguy · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:10 am

I like BTBAM because for some of there songs they add melodic vocals to there music, any band that can add that to a metal style of music deserves a listen, Killswitch Engage, Trivium, and It Dies Today are bands that have melodic vocals.

Radical Cut · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:19 am **Posts:** 960

Dudeguy wrote:

I like BTBAM because for some of there songs they add melodic vocals to there music, any band that can add that to a metal style of music deserves a listen, Killswitch Engage, Trivium, and It Dies Today are bands that have melodic vocals.

You haven't been into metal long have you? You know that the first metal bands were comprised entirely of clean singing, right?

Those bands you listed take their cues from older bands, and those bands usually had much better singers, and the people on this forum would probably be happy to recommend you some things to check out. Since you have a thing for singing, a few bands that you should check out for their use of both "dirty" and clean vocals and general ability to rock face would be:

Emperor
Strapping Young Lad
Edge of Sanity
Ephel Duath (Phormula though, not Painter's Palette)

All clean vocals:

Arcturus
Winds

valefor · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:30 pm

Radical Cut wrote:

Jay@MetalReviews wrote:

Many people have extolled the virtues of Between the Buried and Me so I checked out their album. IT SUCKS!! I couldn't stand the vocals at all. That guy sounded like a monkey vomiting up razor blades. The drummer was pretty good but the riffs got boring. FAST. By the fifth song, I couldn't tell the tracks apart anymore. Lucky I didn't review this 'cause I would have slammed it.

For once we agree. BTBAM is another band that I can't stop hearing about when I'm around the hardcore scene around here, or chatting it up on the magical internet. The vocals are awful all around, the melodic slow parts are meandering and border on just plain annoying, and the metal is generic.

Hmmm... not tryng to start a fight here, but didn't you level a whole slew of criticism towards me and "others" for using "cookie cutter" and "pseudo-criticisms" at SOAD?
Awful, meandering, boring, generic... not much different than what I said about SOAD...
Basically it all boils down to whether or not a band does the job for you or not.
V.

valefor · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:32 pm

Radical Cut wrote:

Dudeguy wrote:

I like BTBAM because for some of there songs they add melodic vocals to there music, any band that can add that to a metal style of music deserves a listen, Killswitch Engage, Trivium, and It Dies Today are bands that have melodic vocals.

You haven't been into metal long have you? You know that the first metal bands were comprised entirely of clean singing, right?

Those bands you listed take their cues from older bands, and those bands usually had much better singers, and the people on this forum would probably be happy to recommend you some things to check out. Since you have a thing for singing, a few bands that you should check out for their use of both "dirty" and clean vocals and general ability to rock face would be:

Emperor
Strapping Young Lad
Edge of Sanity
Ephel Duath (Phormula though, not Painter's Palette)

All clean vocals:

Arcturus
Winds

Early Arcturus (their best work, IMO) actually employs little in the clean vocal catergory...
V.

valefor · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:55 pm

err... that didn't turn out right...

valefor · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:59 pm

Radical Cut wrote:

For once we agree. BTBAM is another band that I can't stop hearing about when I'm around the hardcore scene around here, or chatting it up on the magical internet. The vocals are awful all around, the melodic slow parts are meandering and border on just plain annoying, and the metal is generic.

Hmmm... not tryng to start a fight here, but didn't you level a whole slew of criticism towards me and "others" for using "cookie cutter" and "pseudo-criticisms" at SOAD?
Awful, meandering, boring, generic... not much different than what I said about SOAD...

Radical Cut wrote:

Dude, every list is subjective. Whether or not anything is good or great or awesome or garbage or even Metal at all is entirely subjective. Music critique is not a science, with laws and absolute truths.

Basically it all boils down to whether or not a band does the job for you or not.
V.

Goat · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:00 pm

How many more times are you going to repeat yourself? :wink:

valefor · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:02 pm

zadsterboombox wrote:

How many more times are you going to repeat yourself? :wink:

I don't know yet... I couldn't get the stupid quotes thing to work...
V.

North From Here · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:58 pm

I miss Emperor.

No, I'm not adding anything to the discussion, but at least I won't repeat myself in this thread ala Valefor.

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