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Sepultura (pre-Chaos AD)
Thrash Metal 81%  81%  [ 17 ]
Death Metal 19%  19%  [ 4 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:36 pm 
People always describe Sepultura as a thrash/death metal hybrid. So what's the overall consensus here? Are they more thrash metal or more death metal?

I can't really decide. I used to think of them as full-on death metal. Then I started to think of them as more thrash metal. But now, after seeing how Death is considered death metal, I'm starting to wonder whether they really could be classified as death metal. Though I voted "Thrash Metal."

Anyway, as most know, Chaos AD was more death-influenced groove metal (possibly the first album of its kind), Roots was nu-metal, and their Derrick Greene albums were hardcore punk.


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Ill consider them to be more thrash than death, but death/trhash i believe its more accurate.


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I consider them to be more thrash than death, BUT their first 2 releases (Morbid Visions/Bestial Devastation)I consider them to be old-school death metal. Could they be the first releases witht blast beats? But that is besides the point, Schizophrenia, Beneath the Remains, and Arise are definetly thrash. (but death/thrash is a better name) Chaos AD is a groovy thrash cd that is not bad, just not what I expected after Arise. I hate Roots, plain and simple. The post-Max Cavalera I don't like either, but I hear their newest one is pretty good.

On a different note, does anyone like their DVD? (of the older material obviously)


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Thrash/death is the best way to define them, but if I have to choose, they were more thrash than death.


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Thrash.


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what DVD? the Barcelona thing? IT'S AVAILABLE ON DVD?!

anyways, i think of the frist two as death/thrash, though i'm not sure if there was death metal back then. proto-death?

the last two before Chaos AD were thrash, and excellent thrash at that.

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Azrael wrote:

the last two before Chaos AD were thrash, and excellent thrash at that.


Yeah, but then the very early stuff is Death to me. So both could be right but I voted death to balance it out.


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Morbid Visions - Death
Schizophrenia - Death/Thrash
Beneath the Remains - Thrash/Death
Arise - Thrash


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Bestial Devastation and Morbid Visions were basic South American black/death.
From Schizophrenia onwards they were thrash with elements of death metal.
From Chaos A.D. onwards they have been trash.


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Jürgen wrote:
Bestial Devastation and Morbid Visions were basic South American black/death.
From Schizophrenia onwards they were thrash with elements of death metal.
From Chaos A.D. onwards they have been trash.


The most accurate description, and from Chaos A.D. onwards they are truly TRASH!


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Hmmm...I think in Arise the death metal element is still there-I agree with Rad though. Take the title track os Arise, the intro is death metal through and through when it all just bursts into full on speed, albeit with a thrash edge-but of the first 4 thats the only one where when describing it I'd merely say thrash.


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Total thrash


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The_Voice wrote:
Ill consider them to be more thrash than death, but death/trhash i believe its more accurate.


I agree. A lot of the more extreem thrash metal bands were on the cusp between thrash and death. I would consider their first full length , Morbid Visions, to be death metal but with every album after that they moved closer to thrash. Arise was 100% thrash in my opinion.


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I think they had more grooves in their music then most thrash metal bands and the vocals were more death metal then thrash. I voted death metal, but I think it goes either way.


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Roots was a thrash-o-rama, and Against redifined what we know to be modern Thrash!


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Eternal Idol wrote:
Roots was a thrash-o-rama, and Against redifined what we know to be modern Thrash!

I suppose it was only a matter of time. :rolleyes:

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Eternal Idol wrote:
Roots was a thrash-o-rama, and Against redifined what we know to be modern Thrash!


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Everything before Beneath The Remains was death metal...IMO


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