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Hit or miss : Megadeth - Cryptic Writings
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:13 pm 
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Well, I don't consider Countdown To Exitinction, Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings to be much different than Metallica's black album. And Risk is surely a Load. :) Only on the last two albums has Dave gone back to a more traditional Megadeth style.


But I think the black album is a very good metal album. Metallica's last, 15 years ago. Just like youthanasia and cryptic writings, it's not thrash, but it's a solid metal album. And Risk is juuuust a little "less crappy" than load.


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And Risk is juuuust a little "less crappy" than load.


I beg to differ. Load was IMO a much better album than Risk (which had a whopping one decent song, with the rest being average at best and horrible at worst).


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Seinfeld26 wrote:
Pasqua wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
And Risk is juuuust a little "less crappy" than load.


I beg to differ. Load was IMO a much better album than Risk (which had a whopping one decent song, with the rest being average at best and horrible at worst).


Is it Breadline? It's the only song I really like from Risk. Kind of a poppy-rock feel in it, good song if you see it as a pop-rock tune.


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Pasqua wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Well, I don't consider Countdown To Exitinction, Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings to be much different than Metallica's black album. And Risk is surely a Load. :) Only on the last two albums has Dave gone back to a more traditional Megadeth style.


But I think the black album is a very good metal album. Metallica's last, 15 years ago. Just like youthanasia and cryptic writings, it's not thrash, but it's a solid metal album. And Risk is juuuust a little "less crappy" than load.

I like the black album and Load and Reload. All three are far, far better than Risk.


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I don't like the Black Album, but I think Load and Reload are okay. At least with those two, they had a sound they were going for and performed it well (unlike the performance and writing on St. Anger). Although far from their thrash roots, some of those bluesy hard rock songs are actually pretty good.

Risk was just...odd...


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derncare wrote:
I don't like the Black Album, but I think Load and Reload are okay. At least with those two, they had a sound they were going for and performed it well (unlike the performance and writing on St. Anger). Although far from their thrash roots, some of those bluesy hard rock songs are actually pretty good.

Risk was just...odd...


I thought Risk had a few decent songs, they just had the wrong band performing them. Dave's voice didn't work with what they wanted to do.


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Eternal Idol wrote:
derncare wrote:
I don't like the Black Album, but I think Load and Reload are okay. At least with those two, they had a sound they were going for and performed it well (unlike the performance and writing on St. Anger). Although far from their thrash roots, some of those bluesy hard rock songs are actually pretty good.

Risk was just...odd...

I thought Risk had a few decent songs, they just had the wrong band performing them. Dave's voice didn't work with what they wanted to do.

Risk isn't terrible. There are a few very good tunes on the album.


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Miss for me. I actually only liked the song that started with a 70s cover song..lol


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Hit, I liked FFF and The Disintegrators, and I also really like A Secret Place. But as everyone else said, it's not their best but it is pretty good.

As for Risk, I couldn't really comment on it 'cause I havn't listened to it in like 3 + years...


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IE, Risk is horrible. Even worse than Load and Reload.

As for this album, a huge miss. Trust and She Wolf can entertain me for a little while; besides that, nothing on this album goes beyond average, and a lot goes right into the crap bin.


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I'd have to say Miss

Trust was the only track that was really good while the others were just average. It has been a while since i've heard, but i doubt my opinion will change to a hit.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:43 pm 
Pasqua wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
Pasqua wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
And Risk is juuuust a little "less crappy" than load.


I beg to differ. Load was IMO a much better album than Risk (which had a whopping one decent song, with the rest being average at best and horrible at worst).


Is it Breadline? It's the only song I really like from Risk. Kind of a poppy-rock feel in it, good song if you see it as a pop-rock tune.


Actually, it's Crush'em. I hated Breadline.


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derncare wrote:
I don't like the Black Album, but I think Load and Reload are okay. At least with those two, they had a sound they were going for and performed it well (unlike the performance and writing on St. Anger). Although far from their thrash roots, some of those bluesy hard rock songs are actually pretty good.


Believe it or not, I think more people appreciate Load and ReLoad now than they did even five years ago. By now, most have pretty much come to accept the fact that Metallica was no longer a metal band by 1996. And after the release of St. Anger, which many consider the bane of music (I thought it was average at best - which is actually quite kind compared to what most think of it), a lot of people crawled back to the Loads and said, "Wait a minute. After hearing St. Anger, these really aren't so bad." Quite way to gain recognition, eh?

Risk, on the other hand, was just bad. No two ways about it. People can go on all they want about "Musical Growth," "Progression," "Open-mindedness," etc. but those things mean nothing if the album itself is terrible.


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Seinfeld26 wrote:
derncare wrote:
I don't like the Black Album, but I think Load and Reload are okay. At least with those two, they had a sound they were going for and performed it well (unlike the performance and writing on St. Anger). Although far from their thrash roots, some of those bluesy hard rock songs are actually pretty good.


Believe it or not, I think more people appreciate Load and ReLoad now than they did even five years ago. By now, most have pretty much come to accept the fact that Metallica was no longer a metal band by 1996. And after the release of St. Anger, which many consider the bane of music (I thought it was average at best - which is actually quite kind compared to what most think of it), a lot of people crawled back to the Loads and said, "Wait a minute. After hearing St. Anger, these really aren't so bad." Quite way to gain recognition, eh?

Risk, on the other hand, was just bad. No two ways about it. People can go on all they want about "Musical Growth," "Progression," "Open-mindedness," etc. but those things mean nothing if the album itself is terrible.


I've liked Load and Reload ever since they came out. I got used to Metallica becoming more mainstream with the Black Album, so the Loads were a normal continuation. And i still like 'em today. As with St. Stinker, thats another kettle of foul smelling fish.

I actually like Risk, so much so that i purchased it when it came out. Its not that bad at all. Great songs like Insomnia, Prince Of Darkness, Crush 'Em, Breadline, I'll Be There and Wanderlust.

I always knew that Megadeth was gonna cop some flack with Risk when the song Crush 'Em was used in a "Dawson's Creek" episode (Pacey vs Dawson in a boat race). I remember laughing when i saw it...


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Seinfeld26 wrote:
Pasqua wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
Pasqua wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
And Risk is juuuust a little "less crappy" than load.


I beg to differ. Load was IMO a much better album than Risk (which had a whopping one decent song, with the rest being average at best and horrible at worst).


Is it Breadline? It's the only song I really like from Risk. Kind of a poppy-rock feel in it, good song if you see it as a pop-rock tune.


Actually, it's Crush'em. I hated Breadline.

Gods, Crush 'em is fucking horrific.


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Radagast wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
Pasqua wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
Pasqua wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
And Risk is juuuust a little "less crappy" than load.


I beg to differ. Load was IMO a much better album than Risk (which had a whopping one decent song, with the rest being average at best and horrible at worst).


Is it Breadline? It's the only song I really like from Risk. Kind of a poppy-rock feel in it, good song if you see it as a pop-rock tune.


Actually, it's Crush'em. I hated Breadline.

Gods, Crush 'em is fucking horrific.


heh, I remeber an episode of WCW Monday NItro back in 99. The wrestler Goldberg was using that song as his entrance theme. WCW contracted Dave and Co. to play the song live on the broadcast. The crowd responded with an awesome amount of apathy. Dave sounded like complete dogshit as well.

I'll be here all week with my useless bits of knowledge folks.


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Cool, 50-50 now. Who's gonna untie this one?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:14 pm 
Nice signature, Eternal. :rolleyes:

I've always like Load and Reload. I learned long ago to never have expectations. You miss out on a lot of great albums this way. How many of you have bought an album expecting it to be one thing, only to hear something completely different? Then you take the album, throw it on the shelf for a year, and then one day just toss it in the old CD player knowing this time what you're not going to get and all of a sudden the album isn't terrible, in fact it's quite good!

It happens. That's why I expect nothing from bands, or at least try to (sometimes you can't help but have expectations). I just try to listen to it for what it is; if it's good it's good. I'll be happy with that.

I'm listening to Risk right now! :) "Prince Of Darkness" is starting now. I like this song. It's been a long time since I've listened to this album and I'm noticing now that the guitar tone is pretty shitty.

And "Crush 'Em" would actually have been far more respectable if they never put it on an album. As entrance music for a wrestler, or theme music for a football team, or whatever, it would have been fine. But as a bonafide Megadeth song on a Megadeth album? Pffft! Cheese.

Other songs I like here are "Breadline" and "The Doctor Is Calling," which is easily the best song on the album. I really like that one.


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Eyesore wrote:
Nice signature, Eternal. :rolleyes:

I learned long ago to never have expectations. You miss out on a lot of great albums this way. How many of you have bought an album expecting it to be one thing, only to hear something completely different? Then you take the album, throw it on the shelf for a year, and then one day just toss it in the old CD player knowing this time what you're not going to get and all of a sudden the album isn't terrible, in fact it's quite good!



I have to agree with you on this one, the same thing happened to me with the latest Celtic Frost album, at first i thought it was hideous, then all of a sudden it satarted to grow on me, now i actually think its great, ive been playing it almost non stop, it makes me wonder if i was deaf the first time i heard it, and the worst thing is that i wasnt even going to listen to it again, if it werent for one of my friends that came to my house and ask me if he could play it.


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Eyesore wrote:
Nice signature, Eternal. :rolleyes:

I learned long ago to never have expectations. You miss out on a lot of great albums this way. How many of you have bought an album expecting it to be one thing, only to hear something completely different? Then you take the album, throw it on the shelf for a year, and then one day just toss it in the old CD player knowing this time what you're not going to get and all of a sudden the album isn't terrible, in fact it's quite good!


I have to agree with you on this one, the same thing happened to me with the latest Celtic Frost album, at first i thought it was hideous, then all of a sudden it satarted to grow on me, now i actually think its great, ive been playing it almost non stop, it makes me wonder if i was deaf the first time i heard it, and the worst thing is that i wasnt even going to listen to it again, if it werent for one of my friends that came to my house and ask me if he could play it.

It happens. It sucks, too. Haha.


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