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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:47 pm 
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I think they can toss in some more variation on their next release without abandoning their signature style. They jazzed up a break on their first album, so there's no reason to think they can't make things a little more interesting in the future. I'd like to see what they can do if they spent more time really thinking about the songs themselves during the writing process.


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Good things about Dragon Force:
1.) Solos

That is my final analysis. If you don't like it, get bent.

Dragon Force solos good??? hahah......so wrong

Yeah, and Dimebag and Zakk Wylde are shitty guitarists, too. :rolleyes:


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Eyesore wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Good things about Dragon Force:
1.) Solos

That is my final analysis. If you don't like it, get bent.

Dragon Force solos good??? hahah......so wrong

Yeah, and Dimebag and Zakk Wylde are shitty guitarists, too. :rolleyes:

you changed your tune! :lol: :wink:

And Dimebag is not a guitar legend no matter how many times you say it ken :P :lol:


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stuartn15ted wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Good things about Dragon Force:
1.) Solos

That is my final analysis. If you don't like it, get bent.

Dragon Force solos good??? hahah......so wrong

Yeah, and Dimebag and Zakk Wylde are shitty guitarists, too. :rolleyes:

you changed your tune! :lol: :wink:

And Dimebag is not a guitar legend no matter how many times you say it ken :P :lol:


I agree 100% he was great but not a legend... No way!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:09 pm 
Dago wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Good things about Dragon Force:
1.) Solos

That is my final analysis. If you don't like it, get bent.

Dragon Force solos good??? hahah......so wrong

Yeah, and Dimebag and Zakk Wylde are shitty guitarists, too. :rolleyes:

you changed your tune! :lol: :wink:

And Dimebag is not a guitar legend no matter how many times you say it ken :P :lol:


I agree 100% he was great but not a legend... No way!


Who would you then describe as guitar legends?


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So many people made fun of thrash in this long heated discussion, why do most people (mainly leee) pick on Canadian thrash?

And I think Dimebag is a guitar legend, buts that me a thrash fan, what do I know?

Walls of Jericho era Helloween is my favourite era of them, and I also really enjoy early Gamma Ray.

As for DragonForce, I only heard like 2 or 3 songs and I like fast music but I can't stand that kind of singing, and I hate most keyboard filled bands (except CoB). So maybe one day I will actually buy a DF album but it wont be anytime soon.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:02 am 
You guys are retards. Dimebag was a frickin' legend way before he died.


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Hey! I'm no retard, I said he was a legend. And no matter what anybody else says I will still think the same.


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Dimebag's style is the opposite of what I would call good guitar playing. Why get that good at your instrument and then write such simple and uninteresting riffs? If someone is going to be praised as a great they should have at least tried to push their bands's ability to play complex music in a tight and unique fashion. Then again I don't like focusing on a single member of the band and I find the synergy a group of musicians create much more interesting than pointless soloing.

And being a legend doesn't really have anything to do with talent. I mean Kurt Cobain could be considered a legend because he wrote Smells Like Teen Spirit, which pretty much anyone to have a picked up a guitar in the last 10 years knows.


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Dimebag's style is the opposite of what I would call good guitar playing. Why get that good at your instrument and then write such simple and uninteresting riffs? If someone is going to be praised as a great they should have at least tried to push their bands's ability to play complex music in a tight and unique fashion. Then again I don't like focusing on a single member of the band and I find the synergy a group of musicians create much more interesting than pointless soloing.

And being a legend doesn't really have anything to do with talent. I mean Kurt Cobain could be considered a legend because he wrote Smells Like Teen Spirit, which pretty much anyone to have a picked up a guitar in the last 10 years knows.

Do you have any idea how ignorant you sound? These bands that you listen to, noodles, couldn't even begin to play the shit Dimebag played! Yet it was extremely simple, right? Have you not hear Between The Buried And Me's cover of "Cemetary Gates?" It's complete shit! Every aspect of it is a joke! There you have a bunch of terrible musicians trying to copy one of the greatest guitarists that ever lived. Is it any surprise that they failed? Hardly. You ever wonder why most bands cover "Walk" by Pantera? Because it's one of the FEW songs that is easy to play.

I realize that all you young people want to act like experts, but you cannot for a second try to act as if YOU know what you're talking about when the shit you're to discredit was already FACT when you were potty-training! It's ridiculous that you even waste your time trying to convince people that you're right, trying to change history and fact just because you have a keyboard!

You play guitar, right, noodles? I want you to record some Pantera for us, and share it. If it's so easy.

And Kurt Cobain IS a legend, not "could be," is! And he was already BEFORE he killed himself. FACT! You're wrong. End of story.


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Blade wrote:
Dago wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Good things about Dragon Force:
1.) Solos

That is my final analysis. If you don't like it, get bent.

Dragon Force solos good??? hahah......so wrong

Yeah, and Dimebag and Zakk Wylde are shitty guitarists, too. :rolleyes:

you changed your tune! :lol: :wink:

And Dimebag is not a guitar legend no matter how many times you say it ken :P :lol:


I agree 100% he was great but not a legend... No way!


Who would you then describe as guitar legends?


David Gilmour, Sture (Windir), Ihsahn (Emperor).

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and there's no way Pantera could play BTBAM's Selkies, or anything from The Dillinger Escape Plan's Calculating Infinity, or anything by Behold the Arctopus and not make total fools of themselves. And I wasn't trying to change facts; the first paragraph of my post was my opinion.


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neither Dimebag nor Kobain were guitar legends. They just weren't good or innovative enough.

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Yeah I hate to agree with Ken but what the fuck... I'm no huge Pantera fan but if Dimebag's solos aren't awesome then my name is Tony Kakko. As for "uninteresting", that's entirely subjective of course but I don't see an argument that Dimebag's style weasn't instantly recogniseable.

I mean, "group synergy" in trendy maths bands? I don't think so noobles (har har), sounds like you'd be better off listening to jazz where that kind of thing is all the rage. And what's this about "tightness"? Did you ever see Pantera live or have you just heard the records? They sound pretty tight to me.


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Define Infinity wrote:
Blade wrote:
Dago wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Good things about Dragon Force:
1.) Solos

That is my final analysis. If you don't like it, get bent.

Dragon Force solos good??? hahah......so wrong

Yeah, and Dimebag and Zakk Wylde are shitty guitarists, too. :rolleyes:

you changed your tune! :lol: :wink:

And Dimebag is not a guitar legend no matter how many times you say it ken :P :lol:


I agree 100% he was great but not a legend... No way!


Who would you then describe as guitar legends?


David Gilmour, Sture (Windir), Ihsahn (Emperor).


:unsure:


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rio wrote:
Define Infinity wrote:
Blade wrote:
Dago wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Good things about Dragon Force:
1.) Solos

That is my final analysis. If you don't like it, get bent.

Dragon Force solos good??? hahah......so wrong

Yeah, and Dimebag and Zakk Wylde are shitty guitarists, too. :rolleyes:

you changed your tune! :lol: :wink:

And Dimebag is not a guitar legend no matter how many times you say it ken :P :lol:


I agree 100% he was great but not a legend... No way!


Who would you then describe as guitar legends?


David Gilmour, Sture (Windir), Ihsahn (Emperor).


:unsure:


Randy Rhoads, Jimmy Page, Yngwie Malmsteen, Jani Liimatainen, Zakk Wylde.

(Jani is incredibly melodic with his playing and it's a fresh thing to hear when everything in metal guitar seems to be about speed. My list does not include Hendrix because I find him way overrated.)

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That's a better list, Frigid, but as far as I can tell Jari is more about speed than a large number of other guitarists in metal.

A lot of people think Hendrix is overrated but they always end up repenting in the end :ph34r:


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
rio wrote:
Define Infinity wrote:
Blade wrote:
Dago wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
Good things about Dragon Force:
1.) Solos

That is my final analysis. If you don't like it, get bent.

Dragon Force solos good??? hahah......so wrong

Yeah, and Dimebag and Zakk Wylde are shitty guitarists, too. :rolleyes:

you changed your tune! :lol: :wink:

And Dimebag is not a guitar legend no matter how many times you say it ken :P :lol:


I agree 100% he was great but not a legend... No way!


Who would you then describe as guitar legends?


David Gilmour, Sture (Windir), Ihsahn (Emperor).


:unsure:


Randy Rhoads, Jimmy Page, Yngwie Malmsteen, Jani Liimatainen, Zakk Wylde.

(Jani is incredibly melodic with his playing and it's a fresh thing to hear when everything in metal guitar seems to be about speed. My list does not include Hendrix because I find him way overrated.)


Hendrix overrated? Learn to play the intro to Little Wing note-for-note correctly and come back to that one :wink:

And I think a little different of Jani. While he does have some nice melodic moments throughout most of their songs, his solos themselves often seem rushed to me.


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I know hendrix is an amazing guitar player, but i don't know... he just doesn't seem like a legend to me.

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and there's no way Pantera could play BTBAM's Selkies, or anything from The Dillinger Escape Plan's Calculating Infinity, or anything by Behold the Arctopus and not make total fools of themselves. And I wasn't trying to change facts; the first paragraph of my post was my opinion.

Hahahaha. Dimebag could play anything either of those bands have written with one hand.


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