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Pffff.

Trivium are being annoying. Can someone post that Rats song by them so I can hear their version of thrash?


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Heafy needs to either grow his hair all the way out or buzz it.

And...uh...does this really matter? Haha. Wasn't it shorter before? Maybe he's growing it out just for you? :rolleyes:

It does matter, because he doesn't look very metal now.

[/totally gay]

Um...don't get me wrong, but I'd say he looks more metal than YOU. Of course, not many of us look "metal," nor does it mean anything.

You listen to a band for the music, seeker. What they look like doesn't matter one bit! Not one bit.


I was only joking, dude...I guess I didn't get it across with the [/totally gay] thing. Can't blame you, I guess it's hard to tell over the internet.


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I listened to the card and the samples from this album off cduniverse. I think I will buy it. It sounds like a metal album from circa 1982 to 1988 with some modern thrown in. I could actually somehow see this released as Metallica- Kill Em All part II.I never enjoyed them in the past, but i could see gettin into this. I may not be able to get past the fans who think they "know metal" cause they dig trivium factor, but I have never really put much into that stuff anyways.
If you can put aside all prejudices I believe Ken is right this is a solid album.
$9.79 @ cduniverse,
What could it hurt to grab the full songs I have to order the following anyways :)
Falconer-Northwind
Rhapsody of Fire- Triumph or Agony
Tyr- Ragnorak
Manticora-Black Circus
Into Eternity- Scattering
Axenstar- Final Requeim
Wolf- The black Flame (which so far I found the trivium samples to be catchier to the ears than this one, though I know I love Wolf as well :)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:16 am 
The Crusade is, indeed, a very solid album. I just got the single for "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" with two non-LP tracks on it, "Vengeance" and "Broken One." Both are excellent tunes that should have been on the album. I would have preferred these two over "And Sadness Will Sear" and "This World Can't Tear Us Apart," the two most modern-sounding tracks.

"Broken One" is one hell of a song, mostly clean singing, but heavy and catchy as hell! No idea why it wasn't on the album. "Vengeance" is heavier, a mid-paced metal tune, that is equally as good. They should have been on the album. Both have killer solos, too!

I ordered this single HMV.co.uk, it's cost me like $3.67 total. Rest assured I'll be ordering more singles this way!

I hope the bassist, Paolo, does a solo album, or starts a side-project! He wrote "Broken One," "The Rising" and "Anthem (We Are The Fire," all mostly rock song with a metal edge. He's a damn good songwriter, if you ask me. Catchy rock tunes please a Def Leppard fan! =) Paolo wrote nothing on the last album, and apparently wasn't in the band on the first album. He should write more!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:08 am 
Now, we know already that I like The Crusade, but would some please smack this reviewer if they see him?

Some Retard Named Thom Jurek wrote:
In listening to Trivium's The Crusade for the first time, it's remarkable that this is the same band that recorded Ember to Inferno a scant three years ago. While last year's Ascendancy hinted at what was to come, it still doesn't prepare the listener properly. The former thrash metal band from Ember to Inferno :huh: disappeared, was covered over by this insanely talented quintet whose members could be 20-years-olds. They play an aggressive form of syncopated, intense progressive metal. With vocalist/guitarist Matt Heafy and drummer Travis Smith are guitarist Corey Beaulieu and bassist Paolo Gregoletto, who should be ready for the world stage at this point, and clue in those who think is speed metal is some passé form of rock music. Check the twin guitars in "Detonation" as Trivium weave dynamic, melodic passages around a crunching riff. Or the vocal chorus that opens "Entrance of the Conflagration," before it erupts into kick drum-driven mayhem without ever delving into cliché. Sure, early Metallica were an influence on Trivium (the Metallica who released Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets, not the current incarnation who left those guys in the dust to become a respectable rock band).

This is not to say that thrash doesn't have its place in the mix — check "To the Rats." Never has a drummer sounded so crisp and so completely in control of the beat than Smith does here. The quick yet devastatingly tasty guitar riffs that Heafy and Beaulieu concoct are creative, knotty and canny. Other notable cuts on this fine outing are "Becoming the Dragon," "The Rising," and the eight-plus-minute title cut that closes the set.

Let's face it, though it's made and listened to primarily by the young, as a genre, metal has grown up and become far more sophisticated than it's given credit for. If anything, it's the only place in rock & roll music where innovation and creativity are flourishing because other than electricity and volume, there are no rules; the musicianship is top-notch, the writing gets better all the time, and production techniques are not the focus, music is. Trivium's The Crusade is a perfect example of what's possible. Along with other American bands like Mastodon and Slayer :blink: — and an entire slew of groups from their home state of Florida — are redefining the genre.

Slayer is redefining the genre? Hahaha.


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But of course. God Hates Us All helped re-define how to not make an album.


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But of course. God Hates Us All helped re-define how to not make an album.

:lol:

That whole review up there reeks of a 15-year old, ex-nu-metal fan who has just discovered the power metal greatness of Avenged Sevenfold!


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"the current incarnation who left those guys in the dust to become a respectable rock band"

lol funny choice of analogy


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So Trivium are a quintet now?

What a bawbag.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:08 am 
http://www.downloadfestival.tv/mofo/watch/408/

Video of their entire Download Festival UK set. It's a soundboard recording, the vocals are up too high, but anyone saying these guys can't shred is retarded! Most of the old songs are sung like the new songs, not screamed. But when they are screamed it's the other guitarist doing it. Has he always done it, or did something happen to Heafy's vocal cords? I know a lot of screamers destroy their vocal cords and have to change their singing style because of it.

I'm a fan of the new bass player. He's fucking old school!

EDIT: Is there a conspiracy here? Has Heafy never screamed? Listen to "Boat! Rudder!" on this thing, it's the last song. The other guitarist sings parts of it and he totally sounds like the dude on the CD version! I'm wondering now if Heafy has never been the screamer on the CDs!


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Eyesore wrote:
http://www.downloadfestival.tv/mofo/watch/408/

Video of their entire Download Festival UK set. It's a soundboard recording, the vocals are up too high, but anyone saying these guys can't shred is retarded! Most of the old songs are sung like the new songs, not screamed. But when they are screamed it's the other guitarist doing it. Has he always done it, or did something happen to Heafy's vocal cords? I know a lot of screamers destroy their vocal cords and have to change their singing style because of it.

I'm a fan of the new bass player. He's fucking old school!

EDIT: Is there a conspiracy here? Has Heafy never screamed? Listen to "Boat! Rudder!" on this thing, it's the last song. The other guitarist sings parts of it and he totally sounds like the dude on the CD version! I'm wondering now if Heafy has never been the screamer on the CDs!

I read a Blabbermouth article where Matt Heafy just said he screamed because he sucked at singing and wanted to front a rock band...I also don't think his screams would be that hard to replicate.

But otherwise I don't really know. Maybe youre on to something :X


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The Crusade is, indeed, a very solid album. I just got the single for "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" with two non-LP tracks on it, "Vengeance" and "Broken One." Both are excellent tunes that should have been on the album. I would have preferred these two over "And Sadness Will Sear" and "This World Can't Tear Us Apart," the two most modern-sounding tracks.

"Broken One" is one hell of a song, mostly clean singing, but heavy and catchy as hell! No idea why it wasn't on the album. "Vengeance" is heavier, a mid-paced metal tune, that is equally as good. They should have been on the album. Both have killer solos, too!

I ordered this single HMV.co.uk, it's cost me like $3.67 total. Rest assured I'll be ordering more singles this way!

I hope the bassist, Paolo, does a solo album, or starts a side-project! He wrote "Broken One," "The Rising" and "Anthem (We Are The Fire," all mostly rock song with a metal edge. He's a damn good songwriter, if you ask me. Catchy rock tunes please a Def Leppard fan! =) Paolo wrote nothing on the last album, and apparently wasn't in the band on the first album. He should write more!


I actually like "And Sadness Will Sear" and it slows down things a bit on the album before picking up again which I think is good.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:58 pm 
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Eyesore wrote:
The Crusade is, indeed, a very solid album. I just got the single for "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" with two non-LP tracks on it, "Vengeance" and "Broken One." Both are excellent tunes that should have been on the album. I would have preferred these two over "And Sadness Will Sear" and "This World Can't Tear Us Apart," the two most modern-sounding tracks.

"Broken One" is one hell of a song, mostly clean singing, but heavy and catchy as hell! No idea why it wasn't on the album. "Vengeance" is heavier, a mid-paced metal tune, that is equally as good. They should have been on the album. Both have killer solos, too!

I ordered this single HMV.co.uk, it's cost me like $3.67 total. Rest assured I'll be ordering more singles this way!

I hope the bassist, Paolo, does a solo album, or starts a side-project! He wrote "Broken One," "The Rising" and "Anthem (We Are The Fire," all mostly rock song with a metal edge. He's a damn good songwriter, if you ask me. Catchy rock tunes please a Def Leppard fan! =) Paolo wrote nothing on the last album, and apparently wasn't in the band on the first album. He should write more!

I actually like "And Sadness Will Sear" and it slows down things a bit on the album before picking up again which I think is good.

Not a bad track, but the b-sides are better. =) Have you heard them? "Broken One" is on their myspace page.


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I listened to a few tracks off this the other day. Well, I couldn't hate it, as much as I wanted to. I remember hearing them when Ascendancy just came out and hated them, then loved them, then went back to hating them again.
P.S. On al completely unrelated note, It's good to see a thread reach 10m pages without a massive flamewar, e.g. the legendary Eyesore vs Belephor.


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P.S. On al completely unrelated note, It's good to see a thread reach 10m pages without a massive flamewar, e.g. the legendary Eyesore vs Belephor.

Hahaha. It tried to go there, but there are a few ingredients missing. Thus no more flamewars.


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Eyesore wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
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The Crusade is, indeed, a very solid album. I just got the single for "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" with two non-LP tracks on it, "Vengeance" and "Broken One." Both are excellent tunes that should have been on the album. I would have preferred these two over "And Sadness Will Sear" and "This World Can't Tear Us Apart," the two most modern-sounding tracks.

"Broken One" is one hell of a song, mostly clean singing, but heavy and catchy as hell! No idea why it wasn't on the album. "Vengeance" is heavier, a mid-paced metal tune, that is equally as good. They should have been on the album. Both have killer solos, too!

I ordered this single HMV.co.uk, it's cost me like $3.67 total. Rest assured I'll be ordering more singles this way!

I hope the bassist, Paolo, does a solo album, or starts a side-project! He wrote "Broken One," "The Rising" and "Anthem (We Are The Fire," all mostly rock song with a metal edge. He's a damn good songwriter, if you ask me. Catchy rock tunes please a Def Leppard fan! =) Paolo wrote nothing on the last album, and apparently wasn't in the band on the first album. He should write more!

I actually like "And Sadness Will Sear" and it slows down things a bit on the album before picking up again which I think is good.

Not a bad track, but the b-sides are better. =) Have you heard them? "Broken One" is on their myspace page.



Thanks, i"ll definitely check it out. On another note did anyone notice the Symphony X similarities with Trivium's "Unrepentant" ?


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grandbazaar wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
The Crusade is, indeed, a very solid album. I just got the single for "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" with two non-LP tracks on it, "Vengeance" and "Broken One." Both are excellent tunes that should have been on the album. I would have preferred these two over "And Sadness Will Sear" and "This World Can't Tear Us Apart," the two most modern-sounding tracks.

"Broken One" is one hell of a song, mostly clean singing, but heavy and catchy as hell! No idea why it wasn't on the album. "Vengeance" is heavier, a mid-paced metal tune, that is equally as good. They should have been on the album. Both have killer solos, too!

I ordered this single HMV.co.uk, it's cost me like $3.67 total. Rest assured I'll be ordering more singles this way!

I hope the bassist, Paolo, does a solo album, or starts a side-project! He wrote "Broken One," "The Rising" and "Anthem (We Are The Fire," all mostly rock song with a metal edge. He's a damn good songwriter, if you ask me. Catchy rock tunes please a Def Leppard fan! =) Paolo wrote nothing on the last album, and apparently wasn't in the band on the first album. He should write more!

I actually like "And Sadness Will Sear" and it slows down things a bit on the album before picking up again which I think is good.

Not a bad track, but the b-sides are better. =) Have you heard them? "Broken One" is on their myspace page.



Thanks, i"ll definitely check it out. On another note did anyone notice the Symphony X similarities with Trivium's "Unrepentant" ?


I like "This World Can't Tear Us Apart". Slower stuff with a nice, catchy chorus...cool solo too. I honestly thought And Sadness Will Sear sucked...like Dying in Your Arms.

I didn't notice any Symphony X similarites :/

And I can't find the b-sides anywhere. I guess they took it down from their MySpace.


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grandbazaar wrote:
Thanks, i"ll definitely check it out. On another note did anyone notice the Symphony X similarities with Trivium's "Unrepentant" ?

I didn't notice that, but I only own one Symphony X album, so that's no shocker. I did, however, notice that "Contempt Breeds Contamination" sounds like it could be a badass Nevermore song.


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heatseeker wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
The Crusade is, indeed, a very solid album. I just got the single for "Anthem (We Are The Fire)" with two non-LP tracks on it, "Vengeance" and "Broken One." Both are excellent tunes that should have been on the album. I would have preferred these two over "And Sadness Will Sear" and "This World Can't Tear Us Apart," the two most modern-sounding tracks.

"Broken One" is one hell of a song, mostly clean singing, but heavy and catchy as hell! No idea why it wasn't on the album. "Vengeance" is heavier, a mid-paced metal tune, that is equally as good. They should have been on the album. Both have killer solos, too!

I ordered this single HMV.co.uk, it's cost me like $3.67 total. Rest assured I'll be ordering more singles this way!

I hope the bassist, Paolo, does a solo album, or starts a side-project! He wrote "Broken One," "The Rising" and "Anthem (We Are The Fire," all mostly rock song with a metal edge. He's a damn good songwriter, if you ask me. Catchy rock tunes please a Def Leppard fan! =) Paolo wrote nothing on the last album, and apparently wasn't in the band on the first album. He should write more!

I actually like "And Sadness Will Sear" and it slows down things a bit on the album before picking up again which I think is good.

Not a bad track, but the b-sides are better. =) Have you heard them? "Broken One" is on their myspace page.



Thanks, i"ll definitely check it out. On another note did anyone notice the Symphony X similarities with Trivium's "Unrepentant" ?


I like "This World Can't Tear Us Apart". Slower stuff with a nice, catchy chorus...cool solo too. I honestly thought And Sadness Will Sear sucked...like Dying in Your Arms.

I didn't notice any Symphony X similarites :/

And I can't find the b-sides anywhere. I guess they took it down from their MySpace.


I like Dying in your arms...especially due to the repetitive catchy guitar playing.

as for the The Unrepentant the part where he sings "For your honor, you will slaughter, every one of your daughters, For your honor..." with the oh, oh's choir like in the background sounds like something that could of came off a Symphony X album.


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i really liked this album

BUT

did anyone else notice how some of the lyrics seemed pretty stupid? maybe it's just me...some were pretty good but others were just downright bad.


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