Metal Reviews

Ok this is bothering my for a while now, I need to know. Some people say Death others say Possessed, possibly Kreator? And one guy I know says it was Napalm Death. So who started it all?

I always have heard that Death (the style) was original from Florida, being Death (the band), in their early reencarnations of Mantus and Massacre. But Possesed's Seven Churches was the first published death record, in 1985.

Kreator can't be the first death band cause they're (and always been) a thrash band.

But that's what I've heard. I'm sure there's here a lot of people that knows a lot more about death's history.

Napalm Death are a band most widely credited for their role in the evolution of grindcore as its own distinct genre.

They were hardcore punk when they started, the DM came in in the early 90s.

lol

goregrind is false death metal

Hellhammer was the first band to refer to their music as death metal.
Possessed and Onslaught both had songs called Death Metal. I don't know which was written first though.

There's no definite answer to this, since death metal sorta just happened gradually, and a lot of the early stuff was kinda between genres. (genres that hadn't really even been defined yet!) Is Seven Churches black or death? Is Pleasure to Kill thrash or death? Is Apocalyptic Raids thrash, death, black, doom or all of the above?

Napalm Death was the first band to use the term grindcore, but Siege, for example, had been playing a similar style before them.

Yeah, the early demo(s?) (dating back to 85 at least) were certainly nothing like what they did on with Scum, and were even farther away from the death metal stuff they brought in later.

As for Death Metal, Death and Possessed, Morbid Angel, lots of the florida death metal guys were around at the same time in the early-mid 80s milling and metaling about. There's a lot of hearsay about "well this guy influenced this guy", and I think Death has the earliest demos, but Possessed released the first record that could be considered the true birth of what we know as death metal. Now people like to refer to it as thrash, because it doesn't sound just like modern death metal or whatever, but it rules no matter what you call it. Death and the rest of the florida death crew didn't get around to releasing their albums until later.

Its not like anyone sat down and said "ok i'm going to invent a new genre here." A bunch of bands on the same scene essentially trying to outheavy each other eventually started putting out stuff in a similar style.

Well, the term is now a definition of a genre, so they did create it.

hm, i think some bands, wanting to play heavier thrash metal, ended up playing... PROTO-DEATH METAL!!

you know, like early Sepultura and stuff.

Agreed... With something that became a worldwide musical movement so quickly it's very implausible to say it must have stemmed from one individual band.

If it had only been one thing, rather than several bands in different places hitting upon a similar idea at a similar time, then the chances are it wouldn't have become so widespread, and we would be looking back on it as a curiosity. Rather than having it here and now as one of metal's most standard and stable genres.

Post^edited. Better bitches?

Necrovore.

I know Kreator is thrash, I only own every cd! But on Endless Pain there is some of what some people could consider early/old school death metal, especially in the vocal department.

The liner notes to Seven Churches summarize this discussion pretty well:

He finally got sick of it all. He just gave up. Gave up on acceptic fate, on taking the next day. A choke and a final breath and it was over. I was left futilely fumbling through the ruins for some remains to cling to. It's God's will, let the flood swell.

What on earth was that all about?

Marijuana probably.

it was quite emossexual.