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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:38 pm 
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I didn't mean it was bad, I just meant would it really change that much if the lyrics aren't serious? It is power metal after all, they do sing about dragons...

Right so if they didn't sing about dragons (Avantasia doesn't sing about dragons, more about Catholic dogma mixed with fantasy, but whatever...) it would automatically be better?


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I didn't mean it was bad, I just meant would it really change that much if the lyrics aren't serious? It is power metal after all, they do sing about dragons...

Right so if they didn't sing about dragons (Avantasia doesn't sing about dragons, more about Catholic dogma mixed with fantasy, but whatever...) it would automatically be better?

sigh nevermind i'm sorry i said anything :?


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I didn't mean it was bad, I just meant would it really change that much if the lyrics aren't serious? It is power metal after all, they do sing about dragons...

Right so if they didn't sing about dragons (Avantasia doesn't sing about dragons, more about Catholic dogma mixed with fantasy, but whatever...) it would automatically be better?

sigh nevermind i'm sorry i said anything :?

Well I don't really get what you were trying to say. Whether or not you meant it your first comment looked very trollish. What was your point?


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1. The 2nd Avantasia album did not suck. They are both awesome.

2. What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
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people that really like Heavy Metal (myself included don't take shit like Avantasia serious)


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I'm not really sure what I mean, I think nightmare was saying that he might not take the lyrics seriously, but to me pretty much no power metal bands do...


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I'm not really sure what I mean, I think nightmare was saying that he might not take the lyrics seriously, but to me pretty much no power metal bands do...

Edguy (of old) and Avantasia actually do have a lot of 'serious' lyrics. I'm not saying its anything profound (but then what is, in any form of Metal?) but a lot of their songs were your standard anti-religous stuff. So yeah, some Power Metal bands do take their lyrics seriously, just like lots don't. And then you get the bands that take their ridiculous cheeseball lyrics with deadly seriousness (hi, Rhapsody!).


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I'm not really sure what I mean, I think nightmare was saying that he might not take the lyrics seriously, but to me pretty much no power metal bands do...


I guess I just have no idea what this whole "take this seriously" stuff is about. Does anybody take Cannibal Corpse lyrics seriously? I mean come on, if you don't like the lyrics then that's fine with me. They aren't the highlight of the albums for me either. I'm just not sure why you guys are being arrogant pricks.


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noodles wrote:
I'm not really sure what I mean, I think nightmare was saying that he might not take the lyrics seriously, but to me pretty much no power metal bands do...


I guess I just have no idea what this whole "take this seriously" stuff is about. Does anybody take Cannibal Corpse lyrics seriously? I mean come on, if you don't like the lyrics then that's fine with me. They aren't the highlight of the albums for me either. I'm just not sure why you guys are being arrogant pricks.

That's what I meant, I mean who carse if they're singing about raping limless cadavers, zebras being stuck in elevators, dragons killing each other, how much they hate the world, or "her orifice icicles were hemmoraged to her thigh, she was a meek handjob sarcophagus" (personally my favourite mars volta lyric). If the music is good and the vocal lines are powerful they'll be able to sing it with enough emotion so that it'll have the same effect.


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Even some fantasy songs can be "serious". Blind Guardian mastered that. In fact, BG is often very serious, straying from the fantasy alot, even if known more for the Tolkien references than the other 75% of their music. There are plenty of other bands that do serious Power Metal too. Bands like Rhapsody make it easy to forget that though.

Oh, i'm sorry...Rhapsody of Fire :lol:


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noodles wrote:
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noodles wrote:
I'm not really sure what I mean, I think nightmare was saying that he might not take the lyrics seriously, but to me pretty much no power metal bands do...


I guess I just have no idea what this whole "take this seriously" stuff is about. Does anybody take Cannibal Corpse lyrics seriously? I mean come on, if you don't like the lyrics then that's fine with me. They aren't the highlight of the albums for me either. I'm just not sure why you guys are being arrogant pricks.

That's what I meant, I mean who carse if they're singing about raping limless cadavers, zebras being stuck in elevators, dragons killing each other, how much they hate the world, or "her orifice icicles were hemmoraged to her thigh, she was a meek handjob sarcophagus" (personally my favourite mars volta lyric). If the music is good and the vocal lines are powerful they'll be able to sing it with enough emotion so that it'll have the same effect.


I'm starting to understand what you're saying now. I think we are kinda on the same page.


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Orion wrote:
1. The 2nd Avantasia album did not suck. They are both awesome.

2. What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
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people that really like Heavy Metal (myself included don't take shit like Avantasia serious)


It means I don't take bands like Avantasia seriously. I enjoy their rocking out songs, but I don't take the whole elves and fairies played out by 95 different guest musicians serious.

Avant II is a pale pale shadow of the first one, period.

Hey if you take it serious, more power to you. I take Levithan and Countess deadly serious and a lot of people think that is gay.........


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Radagast wrote:
noodles wrote:
I'm not really sure what I mean, I think nightmare was saying that he might not take the lyrics seriously, but to me pretty much no power metal bands do...

Edguy (of old) and Avantasia actually do have a lot of 'serious' lyrics. I'm not saying its anything profound (but then what is, in any form of Metal?) but a lot of their songs were your standard anti-religous stuff. So yeah, some Power Metal bands do take their lyrics seriously, just like lots don't. And then you get the bands that take their ridiculous cheeseball lyrics with deadly seriousness (hi, Rhapsody!).


Tad Morose, Brainstorm, Evergray, Angel Dust good lyrics.

50 pages about elves in an alternative world, not to be taken seriously........


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leee wrote:
Radagast wrote:
noodles wrote:
I'm not really sure what I mean, I think nightmare was saying that he might not take the lyrics seriously, but to me pretty much no power metal bands do...

Edguy (of old) and Avantasia actually do have a lot of 'serious' lyrics. I'm not saying its anything profound (but then what is, in any form of Metal?) but a lot of their songs were your standard anti-religous stuff. So yeah, some Power Metal bands do take their lyrics seriously, just like lots don't. And then you get the bands that take their ridiculous cheeseball lyrics with deadly seriousness (hi, Rhapsody!).


Tad Morose, Brainstorm, Evergray, Angel Dust good lyrics.

50 pages about elves in an alternative world, not to be taken seriously........

I didn't say they were good, just that Toby obviously took at least some of what he was writing with a degree of seriousness.


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Tobi simply used a fantastical environment to tell a story that had somewhat serious meaning in it.


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Evergray


Dude, please stop misspelling Evergrey.


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PyroMan wrote:
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Evergray


Dude, please stop misspelling Evergrey.


Evergray
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vEvergray
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Evergray
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Isn't that how it is spelled? Dude please stop pretending a HM message boad is 6th grade spelling class...


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And that, Ken, is why however annoying I am, I'm not as bad as Leeeee.

I still haven't heard the first Avantasia. Never seen it in shops... [/on topic]


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Zad wrote:
And that, Ken, is why however annoying I am, I'm not as bad as Leeeee.

I still haven't heard the first Avantasia. Never seen it in shops... [/on topic]

Want those in the post as well?


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Radagast wrote:
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And that, Ken, is why however annoying I am, I'm not as bad as Leeeee.

I still haven't heard the first Avantasia. Never seen it in shops... [/on topic]

Want those in the post as well?


You're a darling II. Yes, please.


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leee wrote:
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Evergray


Dude, please stop misspelling Evergrey.


Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
EEvergray
EvergrayEvergrayEvergrayEvergray
vv
Evergrayv
EvergrayEvergrayvEvergray

vEvergray
EvergrayEvergrayEvergrayv
Evergray
Evergrayvergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray
Evergray

Dude please stop pretending a HM message boad is 6th grade spelling class...


Even though i was polite you acted like you are in kindergarten. I wouldn't care if this was a simple spelling mistake and i wouldn't care if it was your first mistake in spelling this band. You are talking about the band with the pretensions to know them.

leee wrote:
Isn't that how it is spelled?


Obviously not.


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