black or thrash?

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:31 pm

metalhead wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

it's not a thrash vs bm tread, its a bm vs anyone who likes any another genre better thread

i created the thread, dammit! i know its turned into that, but it is still tm vs. bm really

Well metalhead now this is what you should understand, Black Metal is nothing that can be compared to other genres. It' much more than just a part of metal music. It' a philosopy , it's much deeper than you would understand yet. I don't think that anyone who isn't into BM would truely understand the feeling that Black Metallers get while listening to it cause all those other genres don't make you feel anything at all.

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:32 pm

Gast1 wrote:

metalhead wrote:

i dont like bm v much either, but with all due respect, shut up. you just sound arrogent. :evil:

haha, what a great stab in the back that was!!! 8)

he just wants to pick fights and be an arrogent asshole.
bm is shit, bm is crap, blah blah blah theyre must be something good about it bcuz you guys all love it!

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:33 pm

Kathaarian wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

it's not a thrash vs bm tread, its a bm vs anyone who likes any another genre better thread

i created the thread, dammit! i know its turned into that, but it is still tm vs. bm really

Well metalhead now this is what you should understand, Black Metal is nothing that can be compared to other genres. It' much more than just a part of metal music. It' a philosopy , it's much deeper than you would understand yet. I don't think that anyone who isn't into BM would truely understand the feeling that Black Metallers get while listening to it cause all those other genres don't make you feel anything at all.

ive got to get some black metal cds, because if what you guys are saying is true, it must be amazing./

Misha · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:36 pm

Then I'll recommend:

Woods Of Ypres - Against The Seasons
Baptism - Wisdom & Hate
Nachtmystium - Demise
Taake - Nattestid

All of those shouldn't be too hard to get, one of them will do

valefor · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:37 pm

WinterIsComing wrote:

Husker wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Husker wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

Desolate wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

Ok here is my opinion on most of black metal and black metal fans: most of it are just posers riding the money train which requires very little talent. The fans are mostly lonely frustrated teens who are not happy with their everyday lives and dream of immortality and decapitating all their authorities (parents, teachers, bosses, etc.) and want to be differend from the rest so much, they want to be misunderstood on purpose because they like it it makes them feel superior as if only they know some secret knowledge, while all other normal fools are ignorant of it. And it gives them pride and power to act like geniuses that know everything about something as important as black metal, because o them it is the most important thing in this world.

close enough?

MONEY train???? You're joking are you? All those Lmt releases bring money? I don't think they get anything from those sellings. And about teens: I live quite a happy live, I have a lot of friends (not only BM heads), I'm not a computer freak also...
And Valefor isn't a teenager... :roll:

valefor wrote:

Gee, it looks like you do understand after all... :roll:
V.

I was astounded by the "money train" comment as well, Frater Desolate, I mean that is the most ridiculous comment thus far.
V.

Why else would be dong it?

BM does not make anyone rich.

dont most of the bm stars hold up regular day jobs? if so i cant see them making a lot of money.

Yep, pretty much all of them that I have heard of are holding regular jobs and making music in their spare time.

exactly: how convenient, you record an album (the hardest part of which is putting on the costume and face paint and posing as a tough guy for a camera, receive a nice paycheck, then maybe travel to see the world while doing a few gigs and cheat on your wife while away from home, then come back home to your boring job as computer programmer. Repeat as necessary until someone in the band goes nuts and decides to try some human sacrificing.

Everything that you have said on the topic at hand has exposes your utter ignorance of said topic; you don't like it, fine, I don't care, but when you start attacking those that do , the attack will be reciprocated; once again, if you do not like it fuck off to some other thread, and stop being an asshole.
I tried to be polite, initially, but you just won't have it.
V

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:38 pm

metalhead wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

it's not a thrash vs bm tread, its a bm vs anyone who likes any another genre better thread

i created the thread, dammit! i know its turned into that, but it is still tm vs. bm really

Well metalhead now this is what you should understand, Black Metal is nothing that can be compared to other genres. It' much more than just a part of metal music. It' a philosopy , it's much deeper than you would understand yet. I don't think that anyone who isn't into BM would truely understand the feeling that Black Metallers get while listening to it cause all those other genres don't make you feel anything at all.

ive got to get some black metal cds, because if what you guys are saying is true, it must be amazing./

That's the spirit man

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:39 pm

are darkthrone and mayhem the best bm cds to start with?

Misha · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:39 pm

WinterIsComing · **Joined:** Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:23 am **Posts:** 1025

valefor wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

But lets be serious here... comparing thrash and black metal is like apples and oranges...
Don;t get me wrong, Thrash is cool (Destruction, Sodom, Kreator etc,) but it is a device of humans, and so confined to human spheres... Black Metal is a tapping of the occult forces that are hidden (mostly) from men; whether anthems of power for dark kings (Judas Iscariot-Heaven in Flames, Emperor-In The Nightside Eclipse, Satyricon-DMT, Shadowthrone) or a transcendence from the material world of the mundane (Xasthur, Leviathan, Nachtmystium, Black Funeral) or straight up misanthropic onslaught (Darkthrone, Mutiilation, Vlad Tepes, Maniac Butcher, Tsjuder, Dark Funeral, Mayhem) or the aural equivalent of disembodied souls unleashed to haunt the gloomy night (Gehenna) or folk inspired, pagan, NSBM (Nokturnal Mortum, Graveland, Drudkh)... not to mention Ulver, who are some of all of those mentioned above.
As you can see Black Metal is not only diverse, but transcends the realm of mere mortals.
While caught in a Black Metal trance, it is like an astral experience, a taste of immortality, a glimpse into a world between worlds.
Those of you that are into this genre will know exactly of what I speak.
Many Hails!
V.

on a serious note it is time to see a doctor and next time don't forget to take your medication. Wow taste of immortality? :roll: this is sad.

Youre an idiot... most of the posts that you have made are simply retarded. Go fuck yourself with a rusty knife.
V.

yes, you just proved my point.

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:41 pm

:roll: i thought that they were the best bm bands?

Skartasis · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:41 pm

Maybe Satyricon - Nemesis Divina or some Emperor records would be for you. From that you can move to the harsher sounding BM if you liked them.

Desolate · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:42 pm

Kathaarian wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

it's not a thrash vs bm tread, its a bm vs anyone who likes any another genre better thread

i created the thread, dammit! i know its turned into that, but it is still tm vs. bm really

Well metalhead now this is what you should understand, Black Metal is nothing that can be compared to other genres. It' much more than just a part of metal music. It' a philosopy , it's much deeper than you would understand yet. I don't think that anyone who isn't into BM would truely understand the feeling that Black Metallers get while listening to it cause all those other genres don't make you feel anything at all.

I don't agree here. I can have a total ecstasy while listening to later Ulver or Beethoven or Lacrimosa or Radiohead (I'm currently having one from Ok Computer) or any other non-BM band and I'm really into BM. Each genre has it's own "feeling" - yes, and maybe BM has the best "feeling", but don't say other genres are hollow.

WinterIsComing · **Joined:** Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:23 am **Posts:** 1025

Gast1 wrote:

metalhead wrote:

i dont like bm v much either, but with all due respect, shut up. you just sound arrogent. :evil:

haha, what a great stab in the back that was!!! 8)

oh please, who cares about that 14 year old dork?

deathkvlt · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:43 pm

Here are some statements:

1) WinterisComing is the official Forum Idiot.

2) Hails to Valefor, Misha, Desolate and Husker (and anyone else with a smart comment) for defending Black Metal with TRUE words.

3) Whoever (WiC) thinks that BM bands are in for the money are seriously stupid; even the most popular musicians, the ones that are in 666 different bands have to work because they don't get enough money to live from it. EXAMPLE: Jan Axel "Hellhammer" Von Blomberg plays/has played in: Arcturus, Covenant, The Kovenant, Winds (Nor), Mezzerschmitt, Thorns, Troll, Shining, Jørn, Antestor, Immortal (Nor), Age of Silence; and he still has to work as a security guard in some mental hospital. CONCLUSION: they aren't in for the money.

4) WinterisComing is a stupid cunt.

5) BM fans aren't into BM because of the corpsepaint. The guy who said that is a cunt. (Reffer to statement # 4 ).

6)

Husker wrote:

Anyone who sees black metal or metal as just music, is just a casual listener and is not truly into metal.

That is very VERY true.

Hails to the Satanic Art for the Elite: UNHOLY BLACK METAL!!!!

valefor · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:44 pm

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

But lets be serious here... comparing thrash and black metal is like apples and oranges...
Don;t get me wrong, Thrash is cool (Destruction, Sodom, Kreator etc,) but it is a device of humans, and so confined to human spheres... Black Metal is a tapping of the occult forces that are hidden (mostly) from men; whether anthems of power for dark kings (Judas Iscariot-Heaven in Flames, Emperor-In The Nightside Eclipse, Satyricon-DMT, Shadowthrone) or a transcendence from the material world of the mundane (Xasthur, Leviathan, Nachtmystium, Black Funeral) or straight up misanthropic onslaught (Darkthrone, Mutiilation, Vlad Tepes, Maniac Butcher, Tsjuder, Dark Funeral, Mayhem) or the aural equivalent of disembodied souls unleashed to haunt the gloomy night (Gehenna) or folk inspired, pagan, NSBM (Nokturnal Mortum, Graveland, Drudkh)... not to mention Ulver, who are some of all of those mentioned above.
As you can see Black Metal is not only diverse, but transcends the realm of mere mortals.
While caught in a Black Metal trance, it is like an astral experience, a taste of immortality, a glimpse into a world between worlds.
Those of you that are into this genre will know exactly of what I speak.
Many Hails!
V.

on a serious note it is time to see a doctor and next time don't forget to take your medication. Wow taste of immortality? :roll: this is sad.

Youre an idiot... most of the posts that you have made are simply retarded. Go fuck yourself with a rusty knife.
V.

yes, you just proved my point.

The only point that you have made is your ignorance of the genre...
honestly fuck off, you're becoming a tiresome bore.
V.

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:44 pm

WinterIsComing wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

metalhead wrote:

i dont like bm v much either, but with all due respect, shut up. you just sound arrogent. :evil:

haha, what a great stab in the back that was!!! 8)

oh please, who cares about that 14 yeor old dork?

WIC fuck off because you are one arrogent bastard
in the words of the "400 yr old vampire" valefor go fuck yourself with a rusty knife.
youll enjoy that

WinterIsComing · **Joined:** Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:23 am **Posts:** 1025

metalhead wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

it's not a thrash vs bm tread, its a bm vs anyone who likes any another genre better thread

i created the thread, dammit! i know its turned into that, but it is still tm vs. bm really

Well metalhead now this is what you should understand, Black Metal is nothing that can be compared to other genres. It' much more than just a part of metal music. It' a philosopy , it's much deeper than you would understand yet. I don't think that anyone who isn't into BM would truely understand the feeling that Black Metallers get while listening to it cause all those other genres don't make you feel anything at all.

ive got to get some black metal cds, because if what you guys are saying is true, it must be amazing./

lol, everyone wants a little taste of immortality. so easy to convince a dumbass.

deathkvlt · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:46 pm

Black Metal is a trascendental (spelling? :? ) experience; BM is a soul transformed into music in the most pure form.

valefor · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:47 pm

metalhead wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

metalhead wrote:

i dont like bm v much either, but with all due respect, shut up. you just sound arrogent. :evil:

haha, what a great stab in the back that was!!! 8)

oh please, who cares about that 14 yeor old dork?

WIC fuck off because you are one arrogent bastard
in the words of the "400 yr old vampire" valefor go fuck yourself with a rusty knife.
youll enjoy that

HAHA!
Hails, brother!
BTW, old Iron Maiden kicks fucking ass (Steve Harris is unmatched!)!
V.

WinterIsComing · **Joined:** Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:23 am **Posts:** 1025

deathkvlt wrote:

Here are some statements:

1) WinterisComing is the official Forum Idiot.

2) Hails to Valefor, Misha, Desolate and Husker (and anyone else with a smart comment) for defending Black Metal with TRUE words.

3) Whoever (WiC) thinks that BM bands are in for the money are seriously stupid; even the most popular musicians, the ones that are in 666 different bands have to work because they don't get enough money to live from it. EXAMPLE: Jan Axel "Hellhammer" Von Blomberg plays/has played in: Arcturus, Covenant, The Kovenant, Winds (Nor), Mezzerschmitt, Thorns, Troll, Shining, Jørn, Antestor, Immortal (Nor), Age of Silence; and he still has to work as a security guard in some mental hospital. CONCLUSION: they aren't in for the money.

4) WinterisComing is a stupid cunt.

5) BM fans aren't into BM because of the corpsepaint. The guy who said that is a cunt. (Reffer to statement # 4 ).

6)

Husker wrote:

Anyone who sees black metal or metal as just music, is just a casual listener and is not truly into metal.

That is very VERY true.

Hails to the Satanic Art for the Elite: UNHOLY BLACK METAL!!!!

looks like my profile of most black metal fans is accurate.

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