black or thrash?

Misha · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:05 pm

Caleb is not alone...

Anonymous · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:06 pm

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

Desolate wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

Ok here is my opinion on most of black metal and black metal fans: most of it are just posers riding the money train which requires very little talent. The fans are mostly lonely frustrated teens who are not happy with their everyday lives and dream of immortality and decapitating all their authorities (parents, teachers, bosses, etc.) and want to be differend from the rest so much, they want to be misunderstood on purpose because they like it it makes them feel superior as if only they know some secret knowledge, while all other normal fools are ignorant of it. And it gives them pride and power to act like geniuses that know everything about something as important as black metal, because o them it is the most important thing in this world.

close enough?

MONEY train???? You're joking are you? All those Lmt releases bring money? I don't think they get anything from those sellings. And about teens: I live quite a happy live, I have a lot of friends (not only BM heads), I'm not a computer freak also...
And Valefor isn't a teenager... :roll:

valefor wrote:

Gee, it looks like you do understand after all... :roll:
V.

I was astounded by the "money train" comment as well, Frater Desolate, I mean that is the most ridiculous comment thus far.
V.

Why else would be dong it?

BM does not make anyone rich.

valefor · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:06 pm

Desolate wrote:

valefor wrote:

But lets be serious here... comparing thrash and black metal is like apples and oranges...
Don;t get me wrong, Thrash is cool (Destruction, Sodom, Kreator etc,) but it is a device of humans, and so confined to human spheres... Black Metal is a tapping of the occult forces that are hidden (mostly) from men; whether anthems of power for dark kings (Judas Iscariot-Heaven in Flames, Emperor-In The Nightside Eclipse, Satyricon-DMT, Shadowthrone) or a transcendence from the material world of the mundane (Xasthur, Leviathan, Nachtmystium, Black Funeral) or straight up misanthropic onslaught (Darkthrone, Mutiilation, Vlad Tepes, Maniac Butcher, Tsjuder, Dark Funeral, Mayhem) or the aural equivalent of disembodied souls unleashed to haunt the gloomy night (Gehenna) or folk inspired, pagan, NSBM (Nokturnal Mortum, Graveland, Drudkh)... not to mention Ulver, who are some of all of those mentioned above.
As you can see Black Metal is not only diverse, but transcends the realm of mere mortals.
While caught in a Black Metal trance, it is like an astral experience, a taste of immortality, a glimpse into a world between worlds.
Those of you that are into this genre will know exactly of what I speak.
Many Hails!
V.

HAILS!!! And after that you say I'll be a better reviewer???

valefor wrote:

Not to me ... you obviosly fail to grasp what this art is about, so why bother? Stick to your transparent all-on-the surface mundane, metallum generica, if you will, but do not criticize that which you do not understand, which becomes ever more apparent with each of your comments.
V.

Hails once more!

Many cheers, Frater Desolate!
V.

Desolate · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:06 pm

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

Desolate wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

Ok here is my opinion on most of black metal and black metal fans: most of it are just posers riding the money train which requires very little talent. The fans are mostly lonely frustrated teens who are not happy with their everyday lives and dream of immortality and decapitating all their authorities (parents, teachers, bosses, etc.) and want to be differend from the rest so much, they want to be misunderstood on purpose because they like it it makes them feel superior as if only they know some secret knowledge, while all other normal fools are ignorant of it. And it gives them pride and power to act like geniuses that know everything about something as important as black metal, because o them it is the most important thing in this world.

close enough?

MONEY train???? You're joking are you? All those Lmt releases bring money? I don't think they get anything from those sellings. And about teens: I live quite a happy live, I have a lot of friends (not only BM heads), I'm not a computer freak also...
And Valefor isn't a teenager... :roll:

valefor wrote:

Gee, it looks like you do understand after all... :roll:
V.

I was astounded by the "money train" comment as well, Frater Desolate, I mean that is the most ridiculous comment thus far.
V.

Why else would be dong it?

No comments.

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:07 pm

Husker wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

Desolate wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

Ok here is my opinion on most of black metal and black metal fans: most of it are just posers riding the money train which requires very little talent. The fans are mostly lonely frustrated teens who are not happy with their everyday lives and dream of immortality and decapitating all their authorities (parents, teachers, bosses, etc.) and want to be differend from the rest so much, they want to be misunderstood on purpose because they like it it makes them feel superior as if only they know some secret knowledge, while all other normal fools are ignorant of it. And it gives them pride and power to act like geniuses that know everything about something as important as black metal, because o them it is the most important thing in this world.

close enough?

MONEY train???? You're joking are you? All those Lmt releases bring money? I don't think they get anything from those sellings. And about teens: I live quite a happy live, I have a lot of friends (not only BM heads), I'm not a computer freak also...
And Valefor isn't a teenager... :roll:

valefor wrote:

Gee, it looks like you do understand after all... :roll:
V.

I was astounded by the "money train" comment as well, Frater Desolate, I mean that is the most ridiculous comment thus far.
V.

Why else would be dong it?

BM does not make anyone rich.

dont most of the bm stars hold up regular day jobs? if so i cant see them making a lot of money.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:08 pm

metalhead wrote:

Husker wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

Desolate wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

Ok here is my opinion on most of black metal and black metal fans: most of it are just posers riding the money train which requires very little talent. The fans are mostly lonely frustrated teens who are not happy with their everyday lives and dream of immortality and decapitating all their authorities (parents, teachers, bosses, etc.) and want to be differend from the rest so much, they want to be misunderstood on purpose because they like it it makes them feel superior as if only they know some secret knowledge, while all other normal fools are ignorant of it. And it gives them pride and power to act like geniuses that know everything about something as important as black metal, because o them it is the most important thing in this world.

close enough?

MONEY train???? You're joking are you? All those Lmt releases bring money? I don't think they get anything from those sellings. And about teens: I live quite a happy live, I have a lot of friends (not only BM heads), I'm not a computer freak also...
And Valefor isn't a teenager... :roll:

valefor wrote:

Gee, it looks like you do understand after all... :roll:
V.

I was astounded by the "money train" comment as well, Frater Desolate, I mean that is the most ridiculous comment thus far.
V.

Why else would be dong it?

BM does not make anyone rich.

dont most of the bm stars hold up regular day jobs? if so i cant see them making a lot of money.

Yep, pretty much all of them that I have heard of are holding regular jobs and making music in their spare time.

Misha · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:08 pm

valefor wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

i won't shut up, not for anyone and especially not for you. also note that i did not start any of these discussions, i just reply to them. if you do not like that, better not read my posts then. am i complaining about your constant moaning about black metal in the negative way? don't think so.

I think he was spouting off to me, but thats cool, we BM heads have to stick together, and he has puled over your posts in the past, as well.
Hails!

Actually I noticed now that he was talking to WinterIsComming. Hails Azrael 8)

valefor · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:09 pm

Skartasis wrote:

valefor wrote:

But lets be serious here... comparing thrash and black metal is like apples and oranges...
Don;t get me wrong, Thrash is cool (Destruction, Sodom, Kreator etc,) but it is a device of humans, and so confined to human spheres... Black Metal is a tapping of the occult forces that are hidden (mostly) from men; whether anthems of power for dark kings (Judas Iscariot-Heaven in Flames, Emperor-In The Nightside Eclipse, Satyricon-DMT, Shadowthrone) or a transcendence from the material world of the mundane (Xasthur, Leviathan, Nachtmystium, Black Funeral) or straight up misanthropic onslaught (Darkthrone, Mutiilation, Vlad Tepes, Maniac Butcher, Tsjuder, Dark Funeral, Mayhem) or the aural equivalent of disembodied souls unleashed to haunt the gloomy night (Gehenna) or folk inspired, pagan, NSBM (Nokturnal Mortum, Graveland, Drudkh)... not to mention Ulver, who are some of all of those mentioned above.
As you can see Black Metal is not only diverse, but transcends the realm of mere mortals.
While caught in a Black Metal trance, it is like an astral experience, a taste of immortality, a glimpse into a world between worlds.
Those of you that are into this genre will know exactly of what I speak.
Many Hails!
V.

Indeed, well spoken brother. Hails!!

Thanks, I appreciate that, Frater Skartasis!
Hails!

Misha · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:12 pm

at the very first, i thought holy_terror was a fag, i realized he wasn't for some time now and i learned a lot from the guy (he shouldn't start talking about bm though). anyways, WinterIsComming took his old seat.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:13 pm

Gast1 wrote:

at the very first, i thought holy_terror was a fag, i realized he wasn't for some time now and i learned a lot from the guy (he shouldn't start talking about bm though). anyways, WinterIsComming took his old seat.

truth!

valefor · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:15 pm

Azrael wrote:

whoops, that was meant for Winter. when i started writing the entire forth page wasn't here yet :X

sorry.

EDIT: and i always thought moaning was ALWAYS to talk of something in a bad way. guess i was wrong, sorry again.

HAHA! My apologies to you Azrael, I completely misunderstood your post and feel foolish for blasting you... disregard my attack. once again, my apologies for the unecessary assault, mea culpa.
Triple Infernal Hails!
V.

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:17 pm

so far it seems bm is the best loved genre on these here forums...
and i wanted tm to win so bad! :twisted:
i guess it still could, but i doubt it. :(

Misha · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:19 pm

it's not a thrash vs bm tread, its a bm vs anyone who likes any another genre better thread

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:22 pm

Gast1 wrote:

it's not a thrash vs bm tread, its a bm vs anyone who likes any another genre better thread

i created the thread, dammit! i know its turned into that, but it is still tm vs. bm really

WinterIsComing · **Joined:** Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:23 am **Posts:** 1025

Husker wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Husker wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

Desolate wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

Ok here is my opinion on most of black metal and black metal fans: most of it are just posers riding the money train which requires very little talent. The fans are mostly lonely frustrated teens who are not happy with their everyday lives and dream of immortality and decapitating all their authorities (parents, teachers, bosses, etc.) and want to be differend from the rest so much, they want to be misunderstood on purpose because they like it it makes them feel superior as if only they know some secret knowledge, while all other normal fools are ignorant of it. And it gives them pride and power to act like geniuses that know everything about something as important as black metal, because o them it is the most important thing in this world.

close enough?

MONEY train???? You're joking are you? All those Lmt releases bring money? I don't think they get anything from those sellings. And about teens: I live quite a happy live, I have a lot of friends (not only BM heads), I'm not a computer freak also...
And Valefor isn't a teenager... :roll:

valefor wrote:

Gee, it looks like you do understand after all... :roll:
V.

I was astounded by the "money train" comment as well, Frater Desolate, I mean that is the most ridiculous comment thus far.
V.

Why else would be dong it?

BM does not make anyone rich.

dont most of the bm stars hold up regular day jobs? if so i cant see them making a lot of money.

Yep, pretty much all of them that I have heard of are holding regular jobs and making music in their spare time.

exactly: how convenient, you record an album (the hardest part of which is putting on the costume and face paint and posing as a tough guy for a camera, receive a nice paycheck, then maybe travel to see the world while doing a few gigs and cheat on your wife while away from home, then come back home to your boring job as computer programmer. Repeat as necessary until someone in the band goes nuts and decides to try some human sacrificing.

Misha · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:25 pm

yes, you created it, and made some useless post in it as well, anyways, you can not decide how people take this thread, and they take it like i said they take it, i'm glad you see that too...

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:25 pm

WinterIsComing wrote:

Husker wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Husker wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

Desolate wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

Ok here is my opinion on most of black metal and black metal fans: most of it are just posers riding the money train which requires very little talent. The fans are mostly lonely frustrated teens who are not happy with their everyday lives and dream of immortality and decapitating all their authorities (parents, teachers, bosses, etc.) and want to be differend from the rest so much, they want to be misunderstood on purpose because they like it it makes them feel superior as if only they know some secret knowledge, while all other normal fools are ignorant of it. And it gives them pride and power to act like geniuses that know everything about something as important as black metal, because o them it is the most important thing in this world.

close enough?

MONEY train???? You're joking are you? All those Lmt releases bring money? I don't think they get anything from those sellings. And about teens: I live quite a happy live, I have a lot of friends (not only BM heads), I'm not a computer freak also...
And Valefor isn't a teenager... :roll:

valefor wrote:

Gee, it looks like you do understand after all... :roll:
V.

I was astounded by the "money train" comment as well, Frater Desolate, I mean that is the most ridiculous comment thus far.
V.

Why else would be dong it?

BM does not make anyone rich.

dont most of the bm stars hold up regular day jobs? if so i cant see them making a lot of money.

Yep, pretty much all of them that I have heard of are holding regular jobs and making music in their spare time.

exactly: how convenient, you record an album (the hardest part of which is putting on the costume and face paint and posing as a tough guy for a camera, receive a nice paycheck, then maybe travel to see the world while doing a few gigs and cheat on your wife while away from home, then come back home to your boring job as computer programmer. Repeat as necessary until someone in the band goes nuts and decides to try some human sacrificing.

i dont like bm v much either, but with all due respect, shut up. you just sound arrogent. :evil:

valefor · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:29 pm

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

But lets be serious here... comparing thrash and black metal is like apples and oranges...
Don;t get me wrong, Thrash is cool (Destruction, Sodom, Kreator etc,) but it is a device of humans, and so confined to human spheres... Black Metal is a tapping of the occult forces that are hidden (mostly) from men; whether anthems of power for dark kings (Judas Iscariot-Heaven in Flames, Emperor-In The Nightside Eclipse, Satyricon-DMT, Shadowthrone) or a transcendence from the material world of the mundane (Xasthur, Leviathan, Nachtmystium, Black Funeral) or straight up misanthropic onslaught (Darkthrone, Mutiilation, Vlad Tepes, Maniac Butcher, Tsjuder, Dark Funeral, Mayhem) or the aural equivalent of disembodied souls unleashed to haunt the gloomy night (Gehenna) or folk inspired, pagan, NSBM (Nokturnal Mortum, Graveland, Drudkh)... not to mention Ulver, who are some of all of those mentioned above.
As you can see Black Metal is not only diverse, but transcends the realm of mere mortals.
While caught in a Black Metal trance, it is like an astral experience, a taste of immortality, a glimpse into a world between worlds.
Those of you that are into this genre will know exactly of what I speak.
Many Hails!
V.

on a serious note it is time to see a doctor and next time don't forget to take your medication. Wow taste of immortality? :roll: this is sad.

Youre an idiot... most of the posts that you have made are simply retarded. Go fuck yourself with a rusty knife.
V.

Misha · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:30 pm

metalhead wrote:

i dont like bm v much either, but with all due respect, shut up. you just sound arrogent. :evil:

haha, what a great stab in the back that was!!! 8)

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:31 pm

valefor wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:

valefor wrote:

But lets be serious here... comparing thrash and black metal is like apples and oranges...
Don;t get me wrong, Thrash is cool (Destruction, Sodom, Kreator etc,) but it is a device of humans, and so confined to human spheres... Black Metal is a tapping of the occult forces that are hidden (mostly) from men; whether anthems of power for dark kings (Judas Iscariot-Heaven in Flames, Emperor-In The Nightside Eclipse, Satyricon-DMT, Shadowthrone) or a transcendence from the material world of the mundane (Xasthur, Leviathan, Nachtmystium, Black Funeral) or straight up misanthropic onslaught (Darkthrone, Mutiilation, Vlad Tepes, Maniac Butcher, Tsjuder, Dark Funeral, Mayhem) or the aural equivalent of disembodied souls unleashed to haunt the gloomy night (Gehenna) or folk inspired, pagan, NSBM (Nokturnal Mortum, Graveland, Drudkh)... not to mention Ulver, who are some of all of those mentioned above.
As you can see Black Metal is not only diverse, but transcends the realm of mere mortals.
While caught in a Black Metal trance, it is like an astral experience, a taste of immortality, a glimpse into a world between worlds.
Those of you that are into this genre will know exactly of what I speak.
Many Hails!
V.

on a serious note it is time to see a doctor and next time don't forget to take your medication. Wow taste of immortality? :roll: this is sad.

Youre an idiot... most of the posts that you have made are simply retarded. Go fuck yourself with a rusty knife.
V.

winter is coming-youre so popular!!!

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