Dragonforce Are Gay!

thedirtyporthole · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:12 pm

I have to agree with leee. I dont think it is that big a deal if power metal goes commercial. It wont change the listening habits of teh people on this board. We already all sift through the shit of the genre to find the good stuff. There just might be more shit. On the other hand there might also be more good stuff coming out a few years down the road because some young kid who is a good musician can be turned on to metal by the more commercial stuff. How many people here started listening to the more commercial types of bands from the 80s and then moved on to what you listen to now? Real metal fans dont let music get pushed down their throats. What the people around me listen to never affected me and never will. I dont want people to associate metal with Avenged Sevenfold but when it all shakes out and the fans who really are into metal are still around after the trend ends Avenged Sevenfold wont be considered metal anymore. This is all assuming the trend actually takes off. By me all anyone listens to is Taking Back Sunday and whatever new generic cancerous rap song is out.

Dago · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:31 pm

I mean at the gods of metal festival Dragonforce playing with Korn, Deftones, Guns N Roses, Soulfly etc...

It clearly is a mainstream band now.

Eternal Idol · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:49 pm

From what I've heard of Dragonfart, it really is accessible music anyways. This doesn't surprise me in the least, they are about as run of the mill as it gets, no matter how good the solos are. It's easily-digestable, non-offensive, and not challenging in the least. Sounds tailor made for the mainstream.

But it's not the end of the world. I remeber a time when just about every Metal album had Atlantic Records or Elektra Records slapped on it.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:20 pm

leee wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

As Ken said, the risk with metal become mainstream is that it might degenerate because mainstream audiences don't care about the music quality, just about being 'in'. There should be something like MMTV (Metal MTV) that makes it a point to play good metal to appeal to a wider metal fanbase. Sadly, I only see dark times if metal is to be commercialized. However, we could all start listening to classical music and worshiping Glenn Gould, saying how great his Goldberg Variations are...

Dude, it is just the 80's all over again. you are like what? 16? Just your turn and this Dragonforce stuff is just like WASP in the 80's cool band, same with TS. There will be tons of crap (Hell all the old school thrash freak like Holy Terror forget that almost all 80's thrash was major label and the rest nobody heard of until the advent of the internet). The best HM will float to the top.

Shit, Priest, fucking Iron Maiden, they are all commercial as fuck and sold a ton of albums, nobody shits on them. The bullshit and trends will pass in a few years like it always does and only the true will be left. Don't freak, it isn't the end of an era or anything... It just means us NA's will get to see some good Euro Power Metal live.

Dude, age has nothing to do with this. Cut the shit. This is not just like the 80's! Back in the 80's a band could release multiple albums on the same label, now they're lucky to still be signed 6 months after the album is released! And it still could have sold a million copies.

It is not like the 80's at all. Sure, in the 80's labels signed a bunch of similar bands to make a buck, but like I mentioned earlier, there was a measure of care when it came to the actual bands and their music that doesn't exist today.

Cú Chulainn · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:38 pm

Eyesore wrote:

leee wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

As Ken said, the risk with metal become mainstream is that it might degenerate because mainstream audiences don't care about the music quality, just about being 'in'. There should be something like MMTV (Metal MTV) that makes it a point to play good metal to appeal to a wider metal fanbase. Sadly, I only see dark times if metal is to be commercialized. However, we could all start listening to classical music and worshiping Glenn Gould, saying how great his Goldberg Variations are...

Dude, it is just the 80's all over again. you are like what? 16? Just your turn and this Dragonforce stuff is just like WASP in the 80's cool band, same with TS. There will be tons of crap (Hell all the old school thrash freak like Holy Terror forget that almost all 80's thrash was major label and the rest nobody heard of until the advent of the internet). The best HM will float to the top.

Shit, Priest, fucking Iron Maiden, they are all commercial as fuck and sold a ton of albums, nobody shits on them. The bullshit and trends will pass in a few years like it always does and only the true will be left. Don't freak, it isn't the end of an era or anything... It just means us NA's will get to see some good Euro Power Metal live.

Dude, age has nothing to do with this. Cut the shit. This is not just like the 80's! Back in the 80's a band could release multiple albums on the same label, now they're lucky to still be signed 6 months after the album is released! And it still could have sold a million copies.

It is not like the 80's at all. Sure, in the 80's labels signed a bunch of similar bands to make a buck, but like I mentioned earlier, there was a measure of care when it came to the actual bands and their music that doesn't exist today.

In the 80s (correct me if I'm wrong), I believe the quality of music was of higher importance than it is now. That makes now NOT the eightes, because no one cares how bad the music is as long as it's accessable and hip.

Eternal Idol · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:59 pm

FrigidSymphony wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

leee wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

As Ken said, the risk with metal become mainstream is that it might degenerate because mainstream audiences don't care about the music quality, just about being 'in'. There should be something like MMTV (Metal MTV) that makes it a point to play good metal to appeal to a wider metal fanbase. Sadly, I only see dark times if metal is to be commercialized. However, we could all start listening to classical music and worshiping Glenn Gould, saying how great his Goldberg Variations are...

Dude, it is just the 80's all over again. you are like what? 16? Just your turn and this Dragonforce stuff is just like WASP in the 80's cool band, same with TS. There will be tons of crap (Hell all the old school thrash freak like Holy Terror forget that almost all 80's thrash was major label and the rest nobody heard of until the advent of the internet). The best HM will float to the top.

Shit, Priest, fucking Iron Maiden, they are all commercial as fuck and sold a ton of albums, nobody shits on them. The bullshit and trends will pass in a few years like it always does and only the true will be left. Don't freak, it isn't the end of an era or anything... It just means us NA's will get to see some good Euro Power Metal live.

Dude, age has nothing to do with this. Cut the shit. This is not just like the 80's! Back in the 80's a band could release multiple albums on the same label, now they're lucky to still be signed 6 months after the album is released! And it still could have sold a million copies.

It is not like the 80's at all. Sure, in the 80's labels signed a bunch of similar bands to make a buck, but like I mentioned earlier, there was a measure of care when it came to the actual bands and their music that doesn't exist today.

In the 80s (correct me if I'm wrong), I believe the quality of music was of higher importance than it is now. That makes now NOT the eightes, because no one cares how bad the music is as long as it's accessable and hip.

Eh, there was a LOT of really bad Glam Metal bands that were obviously put together by labels(I'm looking at you Keel!). The music industry is going to saturate the market, no matter what the time period is.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:32 pm

FrigidSymphony wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

leee wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

As Ken said, the risk with metal become mainstream is that it might degenerate because mainstream audiences don't care about the music quality, just about being 'in'. There should be something like MMTV (Metal MTV) that makes it a point to play good metal to appeal to a wider metal fanbase. Sadly, I only see dark times if metal is to be commercialized. However, we could all start listening to classical music and worshiping Glenn Gould, saying how great his Goldberg Variations are...

Dude, it is just the 80's all over again. you are like what? 16? Just your turn and this Dragonforce stuff is just like WASP in the 80's cool band, same with TS. There will be tons of crap (Hell all the old school thrash freak like Holy Terror forget that almost all 80's thrash was major label and the rest nobody heard of until the advent of the internet). The best HM will float to the top.

Shit, Priest, fucking Iron Maiden, they are all commercial as fuck and sold a ton of albums, nobody shits on them. The bullshit and trends will pass in a few years like it always does and only the true will be left. Don't freak, it isn't the end of an era or anything... It just means us NA's will get to see some good Euro Power Metal live.

Dude, age has nothing to do with this. Cut the shit. This is not just like the 80's! Back in the 80's a band could release multiple albums on the same label, now they're lucky to still be signed 6 months after the album is released! And it still could have sold a million copies.

It is not like the 80's at all. Sure, in the 80's labels signed a bunch of similar bands to make a buck, but like I mentioned earlier, there was a measure of care when it came to the actual bands and their music that doesn't exist today.

In the 80s (correct me if I'm wrong), I believe the quality of music was of higher importance than it is now. That makes now NOT the eightes, because no one cares how bad the music is as long as it's accessable and hip.

That's what I just said, right? Did it not come out right? :lol:

But yes, money was still most importance, but the quality of music was also important. They went hand in hand.

I liken it to real estate. Back then labels made real estate investments. They bought quality property that would consistently make them money over time. Today the music industry flips real estate. They buy property that is of questionable quality, fix it up, make it look pretty and then quickly sell it for a profit and move on.

stuartn15ted · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:36 pm

Eyesore wrote:

I liken it to real estate. Back then labels made real estate investments. They bought quality property that would consistently make them money over time. Today the music industry flips real estate. They buy property that is of questionable quality, fix it up, make it look pretty and then quickly sell it for a profit and move on.

Nice metaphor

Cú Chulainn · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:04 pm

stuartn15ted wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

I liken it to real estate. Back then labels made real estate investments. They bought quality property that would consistently make them money over time. Today the music industry flips real estate. They buy property that is of questionable quality, fix it up, make it look pretty and then quickly sell it for a profit and move on.

Nice metaphor

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:27 pm

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

stuartn15ted wrote:

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

stuartn15ted wrote:

Radagast wrote:

metalNESS wrote:

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if Power Metal is the next Metalcore/Nu-Metal.

+1

This makes me a sad pandasaurus. :(

Its gonna be death metal, power metal might have a couple of big acts but look at the way metalcore is going, these bands are getting heavier all the time. And all the kids really like stuff like CC. Its a matter of time before death metal becomes the new metalcore/nu metal.

OH IS IT FUCKING NOW?

*cracks hideously small knuckles and tries to look intimidating*

*unmoved by bastards attempts at intimidation, stu mugs the nearest emo kid and steals his Job for a cowboy, and Canible Corps CDs and throws them at Bastard*

YES IT FUCKING IS!!!

*emo kid beats crap out of Stu, then Bastard*

Have your...your...*sniff*Cds back...

(emo): Posers!

I spent time on that!!!!!!!!!!11

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:35 pm

Too bad Microsoft Paint doesn't have spell check. :roll:

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:36 pm

Where's the misspellings?

stuartn15ted · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:43 pm

you spelt mum wrong

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:45 pm

Emo, fuck you mom!

Eyesore · **Posted:** Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:02 am

Referances should be references.

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:07 am

Fuck you mom!

stuartn15ted · **Posted:** Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:17 am

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

Fuck you mom!

ITS SPELT WITH A U! A FUCKING U! dam Americanisms!

leee · **Posted:** Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:38 pm

Eyesore wrote:

leee wrote:

FrigidSymphony wrote:

As Ken said, the risk with metal become mainstream is that it might degenerate because mainstream audiences don't care about the music quality, just about being 'in'. There should be something like MMTV (Metal MTV) that makes it a point to play good metal to appeal to a wider metal fanbase. Sadly, I only see dark times if metal is to be commercialized. However, we could all start listening to classical music and worshiping Glenn Gould, saying how great his Goldberg Variations are...

Dude, it is just the 80's all over again. you are like what? 16? Just your turn and this Dragonforce stuff is just like WASP in the 80's cool band, same with TS. There will be tons of crap (Hell all the old school thrash freak like Holy Terror forget that almost all 80's thrash was major label and the rest nobody heard of until the advent of the internet). The best HM will float to the top.

Shit, Priest, fucking Iron Maiden, they are all commercial as fuck and sold a ton of albums, nobody shits on them. The bullshit and trends will pass in a few years like it always does and only the true will be left. Don't freak, it isn't the end of an era or anything... It just means us NA's will get to see some good Euro Power Metal live.

Dude, age has nothing to do with this. Cut the shit. This is not just like the 80's! Back in the 80's a band could release multiple albums on the same label, now they're lucky to still be signed 6 months after the album is released! And it still could have sold a million copies.

It is not like the 80's at all. Sure, in the 80's labels signed a bunch of similar bands to make a buck, but like I mentioned earlier, there was a measure of care when it came to the actual bands and their music that doesn't exist today.

Spoken like someone who didn't get into Metal until the late 90's and the internet age. Which is cool, but shit never changes, everyone whined back then about the same shit, just not on message boards. Measure of care? Nah, there was the same stuff, just not all was easy to get with a click of the mouse.

noodles · **Posted:** Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:17 am

Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes = best prog bands, most popular prog bands
Tool, System of a Down = best numetal bands, most popular numetal bands

Need I elaborate on this theory? Yes there will be a lot more crap out there if Power metal becomes popular, but the best power metal bands will still rise to the top because in general people will listen to the genre for the same reason.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:08 am

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

Fuck you mom!

Right back at ya, garry!

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