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After reading replies such as Praetor's and Scion's I believe I will add something.
Metal is not the ultimate and most righteous, to any degree whatsoever, form of music. It is not necessarily the most primal, natural, or truthful. Metal can be these things, but these things are not limited to Metal.


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Metal is, although there is a lot of beuaty in it aswell, always about struggle, defiance etc. and these things have a deeper significance...

I do agree compleatly with you though.


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Metal is, although there is a lot of beuaty in it aswell, always about struggle, defiance etc. and these things have a deeper significance...

I do agree compleatly with you though.


Yes, I agree. I suppose the context that Metal is based on are the ideas of struggle, anger, defiance, morosity, etc.


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I listen to metal to stick it to my parents.

Also I'm a satanist and eat babies and shit.


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Hmm Metal.

no, no thats not it.


METAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes thats better.

hmm I suppose I have no social problems, and no external factors that drive me to listen to metal.

1. Its just, WOW! The first metal song I heard was Arch Enemy's Enemy Within, and you all know how incredibly awesome the intro is. I heard that, and them bam! I was in!

2. One other reason is that metal is the closest thing to classical music. I love classical, but sometimes it just isn't heavy enough. Metal has the melodies, arrangements, and sensibilities that approximate classical music.

3. Metal is the last bastion of imagination in music. All other genres are 'real world' based, with themes like relationships, clubbing, war, and other disgusting real world stuff. Where else can you get music about dragons/demons/swords/destruction/etc.? Metal appeals to my mind and imagination. Stuff I used to imagine (and still do) when I was a kid. Its pure in the sense that its uncorrupted my the outside world.

4. The mental pictures metal gives me are second to none. Soaring over mountains, travelling through forests, bursting through clouds, epic battles, calm rivers, nature's beauty etc.


5. Metal has THE BEST melodies ever ever ever. Never have I heard such wonderful melodies, both obvious (e.g folk/viking/power/black metal) or hidden away (death/black metal).

6. Its heaviness gives a sense of purpose, a billion tonne concrete wall of conviction and confidence. I hereby propose that all national athems be metallised.

7. I suppose I am quite Nietzsche-ian, and metal encourages one to become the superman,to rise above all odds, and to never give up.

Metal rules.


You speak the truth my friend.


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antichrist paradox wrote:
After reading replies such as Praetor's and Scion's I believe I will add something.
Metal is not the ultimate and most righteous, to any degree whatsoever, form of music. It is not necessarily the most primal, natural, or truthful. Metal can be these things, but these things are not limited to Metal.


This was a pro-metal thread. Does someone always have to take a dump on metalheads' expressing their devotion to metal on this site?


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emperorblackdoom wrote:
antichrist paradox wrote:
After reading replies such as Praetor's and Scion's I believe I will add something.
Metal is not the ultimate and most righteous, to any degree whatsoever, form of music. It is not necessarily the most primal, natural, or truthful. Metal can be these things, but these things are not limited to Metal.


This was a pro-metal thread. Does someone always have to take a dump on metalheads' expressing their devotion to metal on this site?


They weren't being "open-minded" enough. :wink:


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Eternal Idol wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
antichrist paradox wrote:
After reading replies such as Praetor's and Scion's I believe I will add something.
Metal is not the ultimate and most righteous, to any degree whatsoever, form of music. It is not necessarily the most primal, natural, or truthful. Metal can be these things, but these things are not limited to Metal.


This was a pro-metal thread. Does someone always have to take a dump on metalheads' expressing their devotion to metal on this site?


They weren't being "open-minded" enough. :wink:


:lol: We sure do have a lot of people around here that fancy themselves that way.


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Eternal Idol wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
antichrist paradox wrote:
After reading replies such as Praetor's and Scion's I believe I will add something.
Metal is not the ultimate and most righteous, to any degree whatsoever, form of music. It is not necessarily the most primal, natural, or truthful. Metal can be these things, but these things are not limited to Metal.


This was a pro-metal thread. Does someone always have to take a dump on metalheads' expressing their devotion to metal on this site?


They weren't being "open-minded" enough. :wink:


lolz :lol: But, pretentious language aside, people who think Metal is more than entertainment (and a vague sense of brotherhood that exists in other forms of entertainment but is expressed in different ways) are pretty deluded.


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Radagast wrote:
Eternal Idol wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
antichrist paradox wrote:
After reading replies such as Praetor's and Scion's I believe I will add something.
Metal is not the ultimate and most righteous, to any degree whatsoever, form of music. It is not necessarily the most primal, natural, or truthful. Metal can be these things, but these things are not limited to Metal.


This was a pro-metal thread. Does someone always have to take a dump on metalheads' expressing their devotion to metal on this site?


They weren't being "open-minded" enough. :wink:


lolz :lol: But, pretentious language aside, people who think Metal is more than entertainment (and a vague sense of brotherhood that exists in other forms of entertainment but is expressed in different ways) are pretty deluded.


Indeed. Balance is all that is needed. This was simply intended as a "metal is good" thread.


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Radagast wrote:
Eternal Idol wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
antichrist paradox wrote:
After reading replies such as Praetor's and Scion's I believe I will add something.
Metal is not the ultimate and most righteous, to any degree whatsoever, form of music. It is not necessarily the most primal, natural, or truthful. Metal can be these things, but these things are not limited to Metal.


This was a pro-metal thread. Does someone always have to take a dump on metalheads' expressing their devotion to metal on this site?


They weren't being "open-minded" enough. :wink:


lolz :lol: But, pretentious language aside, people who think Metal is more than entertainment (and a vague sense of brotherhood that exists in other forms of entertainment but is expressed in different ways) are pretty deluded.


You are not willing to die for metal? That makes Manowar sad. :wink:


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Sorry if that came off as some type of shit-assed attempt to be anti-Metal. I am not anti-Metal. I simply think that a pro-Metal thread is somewhat untruthful if you only emphasize the good about Metal and never its flaws. I am not trying to "get off" by typing something like that, because I have realized that that is obnoxius and pointless.
So, really, as I said before, I am not anti-Metal. If it is a pro-Metal thread, okay, I will add to it, and support Metal, because I am a fan of Metal. But I see no reason in not pointing out its flaws.

As Rad said, those who see Metal as more than a form of entertainment and somewhat as a vague type of brotherhood, as some type of ultimate, are, undeniably, deluded. I am not anti-Metal, if I was, I would not waste my time shitting on it; because that would be an obnoxious and pointless thing to do. I simply think both Metal's positive and negative attributes need to be recognized, if not, than the being pro-Metal"ness" of something would be untruthful.

That was all I was trying to say.


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antichrist paradox wrote:
Sorry if that came off as some type of shit-assed attempt to be anti-Metal. I am not anti-Metal. I simply think that a pro-Metal thread is somewhat untruthful if you only emphasize the good about Metal and never its flaws. I am not trying to "get off" by typing something like that, because I have realized that that is obnoxius and pointless.
So, really, as I said before, I am not anti-Metal. If it is a pro-Metal thread, okay, I will add to it, and support Metal, because I am a fan of Metal. But I see no reason in not pointing out its flaws.

As Rad said, those who see Metal as more than a form of entertainment and somewhat as a vague type of brotherhood, as some type of ultimate, are, undeniably, deluded. I am not anti-Metal, if I was, I would not waste my time shitting on it; because that would be an obnoxious and pointless thing to do. I simply think both Metal's positive and negative attributes need to be recognized, if not, than the being pro-Metal"ness" of something would be untruthful.

That was all I was trying to say.

There's lots of flaws in metal. We can't disregard from those.
For one, you can't go back and listen to anything else without getting the feeling that the other music is missing something.
Might be considered as a drawback :P


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antichrist paradox wrote:
Sorry if that came off as some type of shit-assed attempt to be anti-Metal. I am not anti-Metal. I simply think that a pro-Metal thread is somewhat untruthful if you only emphasize the good about Metal and never its flaws. I am not trying to "get off" by typing something like that, because I have realized that that is obnoxius and pointless.
So, really, as I said before, I am not anti-Metal. If it is a pro-Metal thread, okay, I will add to it, and support Metal, because I am a fan of Metal. But I see no reason in not pointing out its flaws.

As Rad said, those who see Metal as more than a form of entertainment and somewhat as a vague type of brotherhood, as some type of ultimate, are, undeniably, deluded. I am not anti-Metal, if I was, I would not waste my time shitting on it; because that would be an obnoxious and pointless thing to do. I simply think both Metal's positive and negative attributes need to be recognized, if not, than the being pro-Metal"ness" of something would be untruthful.

That was all I was trying to say.


I understand. I'm no fan of everything metal either, but this forum is known sometimes for being too critical of metal. It's just nice every now and then to be a metal fanboy and not have people explain why that is wrong.


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It really depends on what perspective (what Bands, which category) we are talking about? In The (Melodic) Death/Black, Avant-Grade/Progressive or Depressive, Dark Metal or bands that just Describe Pure Human Emotions have beautiful Poetry, Excellent and high Quility song-writing are very much found in Metal Music [Knowledge from the band member (s) ]. One Could Consider bands like: Emperor, Agalloch, (the progressice side of) Enslaved, Winds, Borknagar, Dolorian, Green Carnation, Drudkh, Alchemist, Arcturus, Pagan's Mind, Spheric Universe Exprience, Death, The Death Metal Era of Behemoth, newer Death, Dark Tranquillity, (Old) In Flames, Insomnium, Hollenthon, Blut Aus Nort, Devin Townsend, Opeth, Primordial, Therion, Haggard, Zyklon, Peccatum, Ihsahn, Hate Forest, In The Woods, etc...

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being pro-Metal"ness"

Hey, who isn't pro-MetalNESS?
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Radagast wrote:
antichrist paradox wrote:
being pro-Metal"ness"

Hey, who isn't pro-MetalNESS?
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I hate that faggot.


Edit - and you live with your parents rad.


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You live with my parents! Hahahaha.....oh, hang on....

I live with your parents! Uuuuh, that is to say.......uhhhh.......your mother!


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imo most metal is pretty lame, but all of my favourite albums are metal albums, except for The Mars Volta, who totally owned that trend.


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