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 Post subject: Who was the first to play double pedals?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:03 am 
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I was just thinking the day, and suddenly the thought came into my mind. Who actually was the first drummer to use the double pedals? I mean, I'm not into jazz, so i wouldnt bother if they actually play it. But the only band that comes into my mind is Judas Priest. They were around since '69 and most probably brought metal to a higher level (metal as in the 'Leather and steel' metal, yes i know, we still owe Black Sabbath a great deed). Do you guys have any idea on who's the first? We deffinitely owe that guy a lot. :twisted:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:15 am 
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You know I think I read somwehere that Cream was actually the first to utilize double pedals, might have to look into that some more. Good question, often wonder those sorts of things myself. Like who invented the dual lead idea?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:03 am 
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cream? ginger baker? now u got me thinking...thanx. always thought ginger as a great drummer. but never knew he used double pedals. iv gotta listen back to their stuff. thanx.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:23 am 
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Heh no problem, like I said, I THINK I read that somewhre. By the way did you ever tell me what that avatar was from? I don't remember what thread I asked in. :?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:46 am 
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my avatar? its from the avatar gallery here at metalreviews's user profile. i cant seem to upload any of my pics as the max size is what...6KB? and im havin problems linking to url's as well. there something wrong with putfile.com lately. and the picture that i managed to upload on putfile.com, somehow, i cant copy it over here. 'the url given contains no data' someth like that. and another one..'the file must be .jpg, .png etc'. well its clearly my pic is .jpg, yet i cant seem to set it as my avatar.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:37 am 
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The first identifiably Metal person I can think of to use them would probably be Ian Paice.

But obviously it happened in other genres before then.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:43 am 
Radagast wrote:
The first identifiably Metal person I can think of to use them would probably be Ian Paice.

But obviously it happened in other genres before then.


I think Ian took this from Carmine Appice Vanilla Fudge era (the first big DP's influence btw...)
I'm sure Tony Williams (Miles Davis etc...) used it as well but I'm not sure when... :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:45 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:49 pm 
I believe Keith Moon and Louis Bellson were among the first to use them as well. In fact, I think Bellson is sometimes credited as being the first...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_drum wrote:
Double bass drum techniques were first used by artists such as Ray McKinley as far back as the 1940s, and then further pioneered by artists such as Louie Bellson in the 1950s and popularised in the 1960s by Ginger Baker of Cream and Keith Moon of the Who, and popularised even further in the 70s, with Eric Carr of KISS and Terry Bozzio. In certain types of metal, the drummer plays a constant stream of rapid-fire notes on the bass drum, and the ability to play evenly at extremely high tempos is prized (as exemplified by Canadian band Eudoxis whose bass drums measured six feet in length). While metal drummers are stereotyped among some as focusing exessively on double bass speed, other metal drummers of various genres, such as ex-Blind Guardian drummer Thomen Stauch, Dream Theater drummer Mike Portnoy (who could also be classified as a progressive rock drummer), and Cryptopsy's Flo Mounier are also known for varying their double bass patterns and using them to interact with the other drums in a complex and creative manner. Additionally, some drummers, such as Lamb Of God's Chris Adler, rising death metal star Tim Yeung and As I Lay Dying's drummer Jordan Mancino are notable for being able to execute complex bass drum patterns at very high speeds while playing independent patterns in the hands.


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as far back in the 1940's? wow, thats a revelation.


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my avatar? its from the avatar gallery here at metalreviews's user profile. i cant seem to upload any of my pics as the max size is what...6KB? and im havin problems linking to url's as well. there something wrong with putfile.com lately. and the picture that i managed to upload on putfile.com, somehow, i cant copy it over here. 'the url given contains no data' someth like that. and another one..'the file must be .jpg, .png etc'. well its clearly my pic is .jpg, yet i cant seem to set it as my avatar.

any ideas?


Try http://www.photobucket.com maybe?


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following the reaper wrote:
hellraiser_xes wrote:
my avatar? its from the avatar gallery here at metalreviews's user profile. i cant seem to upload any of my pics as the max size is what...6KB? and im havin problems linking to url's as well. there something wrong with putfile.com lately. and the picture that i managed to upload on putfile.com, somehow, i cant copy it over here. 'the url given contains no data' someth like that. and another one..'the file must be .jpg, .png etc'. well its clearly my pic is .jpg, yet i cant seem to set it as my avatar.

any ideas?


Try http://www.photobucket.com maybe?


yeah thanks. i tried, but still it says the pic added needs to be lesser than 6KB. i give up.


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