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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:31 pm 
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otakon wrote:
Leee only speaks nothing but the truth to me..... he is right that true metal is largely underappreciated here anyways apart from a few posters. I remember reading Brocas Helm being called mediocre here even... fucken metal blasphemy that is.

Always good to see a few people standing up for the power of true Metal against the masses. That's how metal always is, and will be \m/ !!!


Thanks Man, I am not true or elite, but I do like what I like and besides the stuff I like that I know is gay, I can at least admit it.

What is wrong with being narrow minded and opinioted about Metal anyways? Is what it is all about and it is fun to argue and talk shit. At least to me.

I honestely don't care if you like Startavarious and others, hell I defened them and called them true HM to Holy Terror, you just better be able to admit that they aren't really Power Metal and not really what the genre is all about and it it diluets what is really true Power Metal. Anyways, I don't care, but you all are noobs...lol


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:33 pm 
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nah i'm no facist heheh, it's fine that you guys like Stratovarius and stuff. It's not for me, too flowery to be power metal.

Leee made a very very valid point, and he's getting shit here. But of course that's only my opinion. I'll stick to my old school metal talk to the Barbarian Wrath forums

leee wrote:
Thanks Man, I am not true or elite, but I do like what I like and besides the stuff I like that I know is gay, I can at least admit it.

What is wrong with being narrow minded and opinioted about Metal anyways? Is what it is all about and it is fun to argue and talk shit. At least to me.

I honestely don't care if you like Startavarious and others, hell I defened them and called them true HM to Holy Terror, you just better be able to admit that they aren't really Power Metal and not really what the genre is all about and it it diluets what is really true Power Metal. Anyways, I don't care, but you all are noobs...lol


Leee, to be elitist is another word to be very passionate. There's nothing wrong in protecting what you believe in. If metal was ever decided by popular opinion, we'll all be calling Slipknot death metal or some equally lame shit anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:46 pm 
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Just for that man I will continue to spread my message of what is true Metal and why others are so wrong.


See, here is why you are getting so many negative comments. You think you are right with everything and everyone else's views are wrong. All it is, is difference of OPINION.
I like Stratovarius and you dont. Its our opinions...but dont say we are wrong about liking things you dont...the world doesnt revolve around you and your views on metal.

Respect other people's opinions, instead of thinking your better than the rest of us, saying we are wrong all the time, and maybe you'll start receiving respect for your opinions


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 5:17 pm 
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Trooper Of Steel wrote:
See, here is why you are getting so many negative comments. You think you are right with everything and everyone else's views are wrong. All it is, is difference of OPINION.
I like Stratovarius and you dont. Its our opinions...but dont say we are wrong about liking things you dont...the world doesnt revolve around you and your views on metal.

Respect other people's opinions, instead of thinking your better than the rest of us, saying we are wrong all the time, and maybe you'll start receiving respect for your opinions


Before all that, have you listened to the bands that Lee mentioned ? If you do then you would understand at least where he's coming from. He's talking about what represents power metal best, and it's obviously not Stratovarius........

and dont rely on wikipedia to tell you what metal is... it's all formed by popular opinion, even the NWOBHM is ignored in its own heavy metal history.


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otakon wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
See, here is why you are getting so many negative comments. You think you are right with everything and everyone else's views are wrong. All it is, is difference of OPINION.
I like Stratovarius and you dont. Its our opinions...but dont say we are wrong about liking things you dont...the world doesnt revolve around you and your views on metal.

Respect other people's opinions, instead of thinking your better than the rest of us, saying we are wrong all the time, and maybe you'll start receiving respect for your opinions


Before all that, have you listened to the bands that Lee mentioned ? If you do then you would understand at least where he's coming from. He's talking about what represents power metal best, and it's obviously not Stratovarius........

and dont rely on wikipedia to tell you what metal is... it's all formed by popular opinion, even the NWOBHM is ignored in its own heavy metal history.


Thats not the point. I can handle his opinions on what he think power metal is, thats fine. But Leeee wont accept anyone else's opinions on the same topic...its like "I'm right, your wrong, end of story". Having that attitude doesnt go down well in here. Sure we argue about things, we sometimes dont see eye to eye, but we respect and accept each others opinions. cos thats what they are.

Second, i have never been to that wikipedia website.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 5:45 pm 
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To me his points are definately right, US power metal existed long before the Helloween sound anyway. Right from Cirith Ungol's first album i would consider that power metal. He's just stressing about what real power metal is, and most of you cant accept that. Still your opinions are your own, the metal world would be a boring place if everyone had the same opinions anyway.

Of course, if you were to post at a board that is majority 80's metal appreciation, you would be gunned down at the spot with valid reasoning. It wont be only Lee standing up for it.

well that wikipedia thing isnt directed at you.. just speaking generally


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:12 pm 
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leee wrote:
How do you know? Did you write the freaking songs? If you didn't then you don't know, so stop getting all antsy. For once I agree with Holy Terror, metal should be evil or at least about getting wasted and F**cking or something bad. Not all God take us to heaven crap....ugh.

One of the best new Heavy Metal albums I have heard in a long time is Axxis - Paradise in Flames, this rocks hard with great Male and some female vocals with balls.

I would say the big ones out there now are def:

Brainstorm
Pharoah
Primal Fear and Tad Morose if everyone would get there heads of their ass and worship this and stop thinking Power/Heavy Metal is Startovarious.

Rage is quiet cool too.

The new band has to be Pharoah though, that stuff smokes.


I do believe i missed this post Leeeeeee. You see the what i've highlighted right? and i trust such a TrOO warrior of metal as yourself has Primal Fears s/t? So explain this....

In time of greed and jealousy
When clouds fulfill the sky
The rain will fall
It's hiding the tears from my eyes

A trip right into fantasy
The colours of my soul
Will take me there
Where confident spirits will flow

Where I can find peace of mind

Take me back where I belong
Give me back my pride
Building castles in the sand
In a place called the promised land

A place of pride and dignity
Where you can find no hate
So stay with me
And join me before it's too late

Come with me in the fantasy
I'll be your guiding light
Just trust your fate
And everything will be allright

Where I can find peace of mind

Take me back where I belong
Give me back my pride
Building castles in the sand
In a place called the promised land

Take me back where I belong
Give me back my pride
Building castles in the sand
In a place called the promised...

Take me back where I belong
Give me back my pride
Building castles in the sand
In a place called the promised...
Place called the promised...
Place called the promised land

If i didn't know better i would say this song is about the ascension to heaven? But ofcourse it can't be, because Primal Fear are TrOO metal.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:23 pm 
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Don't worry Man, you are not included, but you know what I mean.... Besides it was half a joke anyways, you guys are way serious on here at times over posting and perceived flame wars when it is just a fun argument.


The best policy is to not give a flying fuck if you piss people off. By the way you seem to be pretty popular over in the least favorite poster thread, you should check it out sometime.


Lol, great man. I am loved elsewhere if these kids can't take me then fuck off.......lol. Just for that man I will continue to spread my message of what is true Metal and why others are so wrong.

This place is like a love in commune or some shit, have to bring some hate, is the metal way Man. Besides Ken gets worshipped to much so someone has to keep him straight even if he never wakes up.

hear that ken? your worshipped!!! :lol:

Which is funny because I'm easily in the top 5 of most disliked posters here.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:26 pm 
From BNR Metal:

Stratovarius
Origin: Finland
Genres: Power Metal
Status: Active
Official Web Site

End of discussion. Brian owns you.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:01 pm 
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Just because BNR says that doesnt mean its true. They say that Iced Earth is good power metal....and they most certainly are not.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:19 pm 
Holy_Terror wrote:
Just because BNR says that doesnt mean its true. They say that Iced Earth is good power metal....and they most certainly are not.

You hate everything, so your opinion is worthless.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:15 pm 
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Lordi will become the next big PM band :roll:


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otakon wrote:
Leee only speaks nothing but the truth to me..... he is right that true metal is largely underappreciated here anyways apart from a few posters. I remember reading Brocas Helm being called mediocre here even... fucken metal blasphemy that is.

Always good to see a few people standing up for the power of true Metal against the masses. That's how metal always is, and will be \m/ !!!


Thanks Man, I am not true or elite, but I do like what I like and besides the stuff I like that I know is gay, I can at least admit it.

What is wrong with being narrow minded and opinioted about Metal anyways? Is what it is all about and it is fun to argue and talk shit. At least to me.

I honestely don't care if you like Startavarious and others, hell I defened them and called them true HM to Holy Terror, you just better be able to admit that they aren't really Power Metal and not really what the genre is all about and it it diluets what is really true Power Metal. Anyways, I don't care, but you all are noobs...lol



has anyone ever told you that you're a fucking moron? Well, you are.


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:10 pm 
Easy, guys.


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Trooper Of Steel wrote:
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Just for that man I will continue to spread my message of what is true Metal and why others are so wrong.


See, here is why you are getting so many negative comments. You think you are right with everything and everyone else's views are wrong. All it is, is difference of OPINION.
I like Stratovarius and you dont. Its our opinions...but dont say we are wrong about liking things you dont...the world doesnt revolve around you and your views on metal.

Respect other people's opinions, instead of thinking your better than the rest of us, saying we are wrong all the time, and maybe you'll start receiving respect for your opinions


Dude this isn't the Oprah Winfrey show where we all come to feel good and hug each other. It is Metal! If it doesn't revolve around my views it should.......lol


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:32 pm 
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You can call me names all you want, is cool. If you don't have strong opinion on something, that is fine too, I do. I will stand up and tell you that Power Metal is of US origin and that is what it should be, the German bands that play that style now and the rest of the Europe got it from US style Heavy Trad Metal. That speed Metal Helloween style is not true Power Metal no matter what anyone calls it.

BTW I disagree on Iced Earth who I think are awesome except for their last album with Ripper which is pretty lame.


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:08 am 
leee wrote:
You can call me names all you want, is cool. If you don't have strong opinion on something, that is fine too, I do. I will stand up and tell you that Power Metal is of US origin and that is what it should be, the German bands that play that style now and the rest of the Europe got it from US style Heavy Trad Metal. That speed Metal Helloween style is not true Power Metal no matter what anyone calls it.

BTW I disagree on Iced Earth who I think are awesome except for their last album with Ripper which is pretty lame.

Dude, I am VERY passionate about music, too, and that has gotten me into some heated arguments/debates/flame wars/what-have-you on this board, so you will more than likely not avoid that completely. What you could do is try and take a less defensive stand and quit with all the stupid insults in the guise of "it's metal!!" That makes little sense. I have a lot of friends into metal and we discuss music all the time and often disagree, but never do we insult each other in the way you have. Try and calm down a bit.

That goes for everyone else, too. It's not metal, it's a messageboard.


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I think leee is fucking cool! Keep on fighting, man! Long live heavy metal and rock'n'roll!!!!


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Eyesore wrote:
Easy, guys.


Right after you tell me my opinion is worthless. Fuck you Eyesore.


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Holy_Terror wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Easy, guys.


Right after you tell me my opinion is worthless. Fuck you Eyesore.


AND Ken wasn't using a smiley, so he can't have been joking, can he? :roll:


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