Tool - 10,000 Days (#3277)

Goat · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 5:13 pm

Is he continuing with APC? I thought I heard he'd split it up... :?

Al@metalreviews · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 5:18 pm

Yeah, APC = dead.

I'm pretty shocked how many people are disappointed with this. I'm going to happily side with the minority on this one.

EDIT: I Mean the album, not the APC break up, I love Mer De Noms.

Eternal Idol · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 5:20 pm

I liked the album. It's not something you can easily grasp upon a first listen, it has a lot of depth to it. My only complaint is the production on it. Adam's guitars sound wonderful and full, while everything else is shoved into the back.

Misha · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 5:58 pm

Funny, I like the intros best...

EpicMetalFan30 · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 6:15 pm

I seriously doubt i will like this, but we will see. It will have to be mind-blowing to live up to the current (negative) expectations that I ,cannot help but have, without even having heard any of it.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 7:26 pm

Al@metalreviews wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Don't take my score the wrong way, the album is not a bad album, but I find it to be more of the same, too many songs remind me of older Tool songs. To me, this album is a band treading stagnant water. Maybe I need to continue listening, but it hasn't done anything for me yet.

The only song on here I see a major similiraity with their earlier work is Vicarious, everything else encapsulates the Tool sound (Which is a good thing IMO) but strikes me as very different in construction and tone. I see shades of Reflection in some tracks such as Intension.

It does make me wonder why bands are often criticised for changing their sound and yet here you criticise Tool for not doing it? Is it because of the expectation of the band coming up with something completely fresh? If so then I kinda understand. I' m happy with them keeping their overall sound, if they changed it, it would either become so experimental it would descend into unlistenable garbage or become more mainstream and we'd have A Perfect Circle.

I am a person that will always maintain that if it's good music, no problem. That's why I said they're treading "stagnant" water. I don't think it's a bad album, and though I don't care if bands never change, I just don't find these songs to be anything more than mediocre.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 8:01 pm

On a side note: I read that Maynard's mother (Judith Marie) was paralyzed (from a stroke, IIRC) and lived as a quadrapalegic for a little over 9 years until she passed away a few years ago. She lived approximately 10,000 days between her paralysis and her death.

The songs "10,000 Days" and "Wings for Marie" are dedicated to her. The A Perfect Circle "Judith" is about her and her endless devotion to her faith, and how Maynard found it to be a practice in futility.

Goat · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 8:02 pm

flying_guitars wrote:

On a side note: I read that Maynard's mother (Judith Marie) was paralyzed (from a stroke, IIRC) and lived as a quadrapalegic for a little over 9 years until she passed away a few years ago. She lived approximately 10,000 days between her paralysis and her death.

The songs "10,000 Days" and "Wings for Marie" are dedicated to her. The A Perfect Circle "Judith" is about her and her endless devotion to her faith, and how Maynard found it to be a practice in futility.

Maybe that's where the "christian" bits come from, Kayla.

Bleak · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 8:27 pm

Damn.. I am bit worried with Ken and Jeff scores.... I only heard Vicarious and I liked it alot, but I've hearing people say that the rest of the album is quite different from the 1st song, I've been waiting too much time for this album, Moonspell got good reviews, but this one..... oh well, I don't know if I should buy it or not. Decisions, decisions :roll:

I'm still waiting for the new Blind Guardian album, that one will not disappoint................. I hope.

Al@metalreviews · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 8:49 pm

Well I can only say that there is a large amount of positive reviews out there besides my own.

I strongly urge you to give it a try and make your own mind up.

Fingon · **Joined:** Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:11 pm **Posts:** 3207

Brahm_K wrote:

Eww... Tool.

+1

North From Here · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 9:31 pm

78/100 from me.

It isn't as good as Lateralus or even Aenima, but it is better than Undertow. I thought it was quite risky of them to stray from actual songs for much of the album; hopefully their next one comes out soon and follows the Lateralus path more.

chibitotoro · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 9:32 pm

APC isn't dead, Maynard just merged their sound with Tool's, and this mediocre album is the result. Tracks like Vicarious are 100% quality Tool, what the fans really want to hear (why else do you think they made it the single?). Most of the other songs have some of that style of music in them, and some meandering, ambient APC-style fluff. In the end, it's pretty disappointing for someone like me who was hoping for something more like Aenima or Lateralus. Not that I'm saying they aren't allowed to progress their sound in different directions, but this is an unwanted direction for a lot of people, myself included. 60/100

Carnifex Umbris · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 9:34 pm

Zad wrote:

flying_guitars wrote:

On a side note: I read that Maynard's mother (Judith Marie) was paralyzed (from a stroke, IIRC) and lived as a quadrapalegic for a little over 9 years until she passed away a few years ago. She lived approximately 10,000 days between her paralysis and her death.

The songs "10,000 Days" and "Wings for Marie" are dedicated to her. The A Perfect Circle "Judith" is about her and her endless devotion to her faith, and how Maynard found it to be a practice in futility.

Maybe that's where the "christian" bits come from, Kayla.

Ah ha. That makes sense. It also makes "10,000 Days" a terribly sad song.

EDIT: Wait, no. 10,000 days is a little over 27 years. Some part of that information is wrong, or there's more to the story.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 9:39 pm

Al@metalreviews wrote:

Well I can only say that there is a large amount of positive reviews out there besides my own.

I strongly urge you to give it a try and make your own mind up.

Yep, this seems to be a hit or miss, you get it or you don't album.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 9:41 pm

Carnifex Umbris wrote:

Zad wrote:

flying_guitars wrote:

On a side note: I read that Maynard's mother (Judith Marie) was paralyzed (from a stroke, IIRC) and lived as a quadrapalegic for a little over 9 years until she passed away a few years ago. She lived approximately 10,000 days between her paralysis and her death.

The songs "10,000 Days" and "Wings for Marie" are dedicated to her. The A Perfect Circle "Judith" is about her and her endless devotion to her faith, and how Maynard found it to be a practice in futility.

Maybe that's where the "christian" bits come from, Kayla.

Ah ha. That makes sense. It also makes "10,000 Days" a terribly sad song.

And it explains the amazing anger in Judith. I don't remember hearing "fuck your god" in a black metal song even (though I'm sure I've heard it many times), no matter how cheesy it may sound these are very strong lyrics when backed up with such a story. Wow.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 9:41 pm

Carnifex Umbris wrote:

Zad wrote:

flying_guitars wrote:

On a side note: I read that Maynard's mother (Judith Marie) was paralyzed (from a stroke, IIRC) and lived as a quadrapalegic for a little over 9 years until she passed away a few years ago. She lived approximately 10,000 days between her paralysis and her death.

The songs "10,000 Days" and "Wings for Marie" are dedicated to her. The A Perfect Circle "Judith" is about her and her endless devotion to her faith, and how Maynard found it to be a practice in futility.

Maybe that's where the "christian" bits come from, Kayla.

Ah ha. That makes sense. It also makes "10,000 Days" a terribly sad song.

EDIT: Wait, no. 10,000 days is a little over 27 years. Some part of that information is wrong, or there's more to the story.

Hmmm...that is correct. I totally took his word for it. Hahaha. There must be more to it...Maynard's older than 27, right?

noodles · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 10:46 pm

Eyesore was cool until he gave any In Flames album a better rating than this.

Quote:

Don't take my score the wrong way, the album is not a bad album, but I find it to be more of the same, too many songs remind me of older Tool songs. To me, this album is a band treading stagnant water. Maybe I need to continue listening, but it hasn't done anything for me yet.

I don't think Tool have done anything like Wings For Marie/10,000 Days, or Rosetta Stoned before, maybe Right in Two as well. The Pot sounds like later Tool covering Opiate-era Tool and has a cool overall sound too.

As for the genre debate over Tool, I think calling them progressive hard rock/metal suits them well enough.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

This album is 'Lateralus Pt. II: Now With More King Crimson Influence!' It feels like the sort of discount prog-metal that you pick up in the bargain bin at Best Buy for two bucks and then wonder if it was worth the money.

Laden with filler tracks as a Las Vegas buffet is laden with sneezed-on croutons and eggs manufactured during the Harding administration, the recorders of this travesty should be forced to restart APC at gunpoint.

noodles · **Posted:** Mon May 08, 2006 10:54 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

This album is 'Lateralus Pt. II: Now With More King Crimson Influence!'

You say that like its a bad think :shock:

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