The Poll to end all Poll's about thrash!

deathascome · **Posted:** Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:08 pm

Radical Cut wrote:

deathascome wrote:

It is impossible to compare, for me at least.
There's no better or worst,
there's diferent even in the same genre.

Which is better, wagner or mozart? Verdi or Vivaldi?
All are good in their own way.

Wagner and Vivaldi :wink:

I prefer them too, but their not better. I just Like them more. :wink:

"which of them you like the most" is diferent from "whom is better"

Radical Cut · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:19 am **Posts:** 960

deathascome wrote:

Radical Cut wrote:

deathascome wrote:

It is impossible to compare, for me at least.
There's no better or worst,
there's diferent even in the same genre.

Which is better, wagner or mozart? Verdi or Vivaldi?
All are good in their own way.

Wagner and Vivaldi :wink:

I prefer them too, but their not better. I just Like them more. :wink:

"which of them you like the most" is diferent from "whom is better"

I stopped trying to differentiate between the two. I see your point, but as you said earlier, ultimately there are no "better" or "worse" bands. There is only personal opinion, who you like or don't like. You can debate certain aspects of music with some actual grounds for legitimate comparison and discussion but in the end you can't quantify good.

stub · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:41 pm

deathascome wrote:

It is impossible to compare, for me at least.
There's no better or worst,
there's diferent even in the same genre.

Which is better, wagner or mozart? Verdi or Vivaldi?
All are good in their own way.

Mozart>Wagner>Verdi/Vivaldi(still they're very good...but italians are better at making pizza and CRapshody)

stub · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:50 pm

I voted Killing is my Businness! This album is fucking insane musicallywise, it has to be the first technical thrash album ever; it's fucking well executed for a debut album....compare it with Kreator's debut: Megadeth can play their instruments, Kreator cannot.

I give fucking good mentions also to Exodus, Metallica, Slayer.
And Sentence of Death>Endless Pain...because it's shorter!

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:09 pm

stub wrote:

I voted Killing is my Businness! This album is fucking insane musicallywise, it has to be the first technical thrash album ever; it's fucking well executed for a debut album....compare it with Kreator's debut: Megadeth can play their instruments, Kreator cannot.

I give fucking good mentions also to Exodus, Metallica, Slayer.
And Sentence of Death>Endless Pain...because it's shorter!

You've got a point. Why is older thrash held in such high regard when most of it is shittily played? I've said it before, I'll say it again - if I wanted to listen to shitty thrash I'd listen to punk.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Zad wrote:

You've got a point. Why is older thrash held in such high regard when most of it is shittily played? I've said it before, I'll say it again - if I wanted to listen to shitty thrash I'd listen to punk.

Zad, you don't know the pleasures of the thrash from a bin filled with refuse, mostly apple cores.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:16 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

Zad wrote:

You've got a point. Why is older thrash held in such high regard when most of it is shittily played? I've said it before, I'll say it again - if I wanted to listen to shitty thrash I'd listen to punk.

Zad, you don't know the pleasures of the thrash from a bin filled with refuse, mostly apple cores.

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Shit.
Slayer - Show No Mercy Alright, mid-period's better
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good Good
Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Meh
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Shit
Testament - The Legacy Alright
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil Very hard to get into, Sodom are for me
Kreator - Endless Pain Shit
Destruction - Sentence of Death WooT!
Coroner - R.I.P. Not heard.

There you have my thoughts on each of those. Any suggestions are welcomed...

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:19 pm

Zad wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

Zad wrote:

You've got a point. Why is older thrash held in such high regard when most of it is shittily played? I've said it before, I'll say it again - if I wanted to listen to shitty thrash I'd listen to punk.

Zad, you don't know the pleasures of the thrash from a bin filled with refuse, mostly apple cores.

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Shit.
Slayer - Show No Mercy Alright, mid-period's better
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good Good Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Meh
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Shit
Testament - The Legacy Alright
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil Very hard to get into, Sodom are for me
Kreator - Endless Pain Shit
Destruction - Sentence of Death WooT!
Coroner - R.I.P. Not heard.

There you have my thoughts on each of those. Any suggestions are welcomed...

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!

God, I'm almost offended..You've just gone through several of my all time favourite albums and branded them as shit...

I'm listening to Bonded By Blood now, have you actually heard it? I'd easily rate it above 95, it's FUCKING AWESOME...

I'm gonna have to resist going on a full blown rant here, because along with death metal, thrash is my favourite genre and it's hard not to take this st5uff personally...I'd best lighten up, haha.

stub · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:21 pm

Zad wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

Zad wrote:

You've got a point. Why is older thrash held in such high regard when most of it is shittily played? I've said it before, I'll say it again - if I wanted to listen to shitty thrash I'd listen to punk.

Zad, you don't know the pleasures of the thrash from a bin filled with refuse, mostly apple cores.

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Shit.
Slayer - Show No Mercy Alright, mid-period's better
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good Good
Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Meh
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Shit
Testament - The Legacy Alright
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil Very hard to get into, Sodom are for me
Kreator - Endless Pain Shit
Destruction - Sentence of Death WooT!
Coroner - R.I.P. Not heard.

There you have my thoughts on each of those. Any suggestions are welcomed...

Listen to some Stevie Wonder!

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:23 pm

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Brilliant.
Slayer - Show No Mercy Alright, mid-period's better Brilliant.
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good N/A.
Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Great.
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Probably the best thrash album ever.
Testament - The Legacy Awesome.
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil N/A.
Kreator - Endless Pain N/A.
Destruction - Sentence of Death N/A.
Coroner - R.I.P. Brilliant.

OK, I may not have heard them all, but save for Destruction I've listened to all of those bands.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:24 pm

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

Zad wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

Zad wrote:

You've got a point. Why is older thrash held in such high regard when most of it is shittily played? I've said it before, I'll say it again - if I wanted to listen to shitty thrash I'd listen to punk.

Zad, you don't know the pleasures of the thrash from a bin filled with refuse, mostly apple cores.

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Shit.
Slayer - Show No Mercy Alright, mid-period's better
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good Good Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Meh
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Shit
Testament - The Legacy Alright
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil Very hard to get into, Sodom are for me
Kreator - Endless Pain Shit
Destruction - Sentence of Death WooT!
Coroner - R.I.P. Not heard.

There you have my thoughts on each of those. Any suggestions are welcomed...

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!

God, I'm almost offended..You've just gone through several of my all time favourite albums and branded them as shit...

I'm listening to Bonded By Blood now, have you actually heard it? I'd easily rate it above 95, it's FUCKING AWESOME...

I'm gonna have to resist going on a full blown rant here, because along with death metal, thrash is my favourite genre and it's hard not to take this stuff personally...I'd best lighten up, haha.

It's all IMO, of course. Don't get offended, but I never found thrash as....exciting as death, black or grind, so I never went into it too deeply. Any links to samples etc will be gratefully recieved, I'm not above changing my mind...

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:25 pm

And Stub: fuck off, please. It's not funny any more.

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:26 pm

Zad wrote:

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

Zad wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

Zad wrote:

You've got a point. Why is older thrash held in such high regard when most of it is shittily played? I've said it before, I'll say it again - if I wanted to listen to shitty thrash I'd listen to punk.

Zad, you don't know the pleasures of the thrash from a bin filled with refuse, mostly apple cores.

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Shit.
Slayer - Show No Mercy Alright, mid-period's better
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good Good Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Meh
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Shit
Testament - The Legacy Alright
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil Very hard to get into, Sodom are for me
Kreator - Endless Pain Shit
Destruction - Sentence of Death WooT!
Coroner - R.I.P. Not heard.

There you have my thoughts on each of those. Any suggestions are welcomed...

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!

God, I'm almost offended..You've just gone through several of my all time favourite albums and branded them as shit...

I'm listening to Bonded By Blood now, have you actually heard it? I'd easily rate it above 95, it's FUCKING AWESOME...

I'm gonna have to resist going on a full blown rant here, because along with death metal, thrash is my favourite genre and it's hard not to take this stuff personally...I'd best lighten up, haha.

It's all IMO, of course. Don't get offended, but I never found thrash as....exciting as death, black or grind, so I never went into it too deeply. Any links to samples etc will be gratefully recieved, I'm not above changing my mind...

Haha, my post came off as hideously abrasive, I meant for it to be more tongue in cheek. I'll take a look for some links/samples whatever. But yeah, it isn't as 'deep' as other genres, it's more straightforward, erm, party metal, I guess.

Stefan · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:28 pm

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Very Good
Slayer - Show No Mercy Average
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good Very Good
Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Good
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Very Good
Testament - The Legacy Good
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil Sucks, they're a much better band now...
Kreator - Endless Pain Average
Destruction - Sentence of Death Average
Coroner - R.I.P. Brilliant (but Punishment For Decadence is even better)

8)

NP
Iron Maiden "(excerpts from) Powerslave" (now on Powerslave, the song, and it's great (as it's always been)

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Goat · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:29 pm

Metalhead_Bastard wrote:

Haha, my post came off as hideously abrasive, I meant for it to be more tongue in cheek. I'll take a look for some links/samples whatever. But yeah, it isn't as 'deep' as other genres, it's more straightforward, erm, party metal, I guess.

I took it like a man.

When I was getting into metal, the party stuff wasn't what I was after. I wanted the uber-amazing stuff that was marked out from the pop shit, the metal that made me feel.

Maybe it's time to check out the stuff I missed, I'm already getting into Power metal slowly, so I suppose there's no excuse for missing thrash out...

stub · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:36 pm

Zad wrote:

And Stub: fuck off, please. It's not funny any more.

You said Bonded by Blood and Kill em All suck, so you're the one who fucks off please!

And Stevie Wonder rules! :twisted:

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:39 pm

stub wrote:

Zad wrote:

And Stub: fuck off, please. It's not funny any more.

You said Bonded by Blood and Kill em All suck, so you're the one who fucks off please!

And Stevie Wonder rules! :twisted:

Kill 'Em All does indeed suck, the Exodus I'm going to take another shot at. I like Stevie Wonder, but he has fuck-all to do with the topic, and your bad habit of swingin' by and offering stupid solutions is not funny.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Zad wrote:

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Shit.- Merely unspectacular
Slayer - Show No Mercy Alright, mid-period's better - Agreed.
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good Good - Yep.
Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Meh - Yep.
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Shit - DIE
Testament - The Legacy Alright - Meh.
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil Very hard to get into, Sodom are for me - DIE
Kreator - Endless Pain Shit - DIE
Destruction - Sentence of Death WooT!
Coroner - R.I.P. Not heard. - HEAR THIS

There you have my thoughts on each of those. Any suggestions are welcomed...

BAH

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:03 pm

Somebody else is gonna have to link some songs, this is fucking nigh on impossible with all these blocks...I've found Into the Pit by Testament if you're interested: http://www.metal-observer.com/mp3s.php?lid=1&l=T Just scroll down to it.

www.heathenmetal.com

It's blocked, but I understand you can hear 2 of their albums, great band.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:06 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

Zad wrote:

Metallica - Kill 'Em All Shit.- Merely unspectacular
Slayer - Show No Mercy Alright, mid-period's better - Agreed.
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good Good - Yep.
Anthrax - A Fistful of Metal Meh - Yep.
Exodus - Bonded by Blood Shit - DIE
Testament - The Legacy Alright - Meh.
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil Very hard to get into, Sodom are for me - DIE
Kreator - Endless Pain Shit - DIE
Destruction - Sentence of Death WooT!
Coroner - R.I.P. Not heard. - HEAR THIS

There you have my thoughts on each of those. Any suggestions are welcomed...

BAH

I'm not changing my mind on Metallica. They are a shitty band, and I'm standing by that. Otherwise, I'll try the Exodus, Sodom, Kreator and Coroner. Your opinion on Destruction?

And thanks for the links, Pete, the first one is blocked, I'll play the Heathen now...

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