Metal Reviews

You would maybe have a case if the scores were handed out by the same person.

do you mean that objectively or subjectively? :E :F :G :H

I just mean that you can't go around declaring that some album is "objectively" better than another, it just means you don't have enough dictionary in your diet.

2) yes, I actually quite like Nation as an album. maybe not a Sepultura album but it hast good musics.

Fair enough, I suppose. And you took me by suprise there, wouldn't have thought it was your thing at all. Ah well, you learn something every day...

Just to avoid confusion: Alex wrote the review. I just posted in this thread, that's all.

And thank you for it.

Keep up the good work, guys, I'm not really criticizing.

I never was a big fan of Sepultura, like Alex. But i have to say that i did rather enjoy this album despite the few tracks that i skip all the time. Some really killer riffs highlight this album as well as sort of musical "tightness" which is hard to beat in this genre of music. 70/100 for me.

Jason,

Worst... Cover Art... Ever. I would think for something like The Divine Comedy, Sepultura would have some beautifully drawn/painted cover art to reflect the epic nature of the album. But instead they opt for a picture that looks like a fifth grader could've drawn it. Definitely detracts from what's supposed to be Sep's "musical epic."

Anyway, I've heard one song from this album and was pretty underwhelmed. Derrick's vocals have certainly improved since Against and Nation, but still lack the power of Max's vocals. That whole "hardcore" style of music never really appealed to me. And yes, Soulfly is a much better band than Sepultura right now (for the record, they always were better than Green-era Sep).

I agree with one of the posters here. Sepultura is the kind of band that will always persevere and continue to quietly produce/release albums regardless of whether or not anybody really cares (notice this album didn't get the "Major Event" label in its review) - a lot of people probably don't even realize Sepultura still exists. With that in mind, I guess they should be commended for having that much passion for their music (most bands would have hung it up at this point in their careers). Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean we have to like it.

Hey, Zad, see that others beat me to it, but I will pipe in anyway. Are you implying that I can't review an album/band if I am not a fan?? Or are you saying we only should review the stuff we are fans of?? Both arguments don't hold any water, IMHO. My statement atop the review is not a harsh criticism of the band, nor it is a statement of any kind. It is more of a disclaimer, giving those folks who are much more into Sepultura a perspective, that this is coming from a non-fan. If they trust my objectivity (which I am not sure you do), they can then project my review and see if they would really like an album and get on with getting it right away. Soemthing like "if even Alex liked it, then my mind would certainly be blown off". The reverse is true too "yeah, that Alex knows little about Sepultura, but judging from what he said I might try it". The non-fans could benefit too, as they get another non-fan point of view.
I find it actually very interesting, for myself, to take an album, a band, a genre that I have not been particularly interested in and give it a try. Totimoshi wasn't my thing at all, but I am glad I gave it a shot. If we only reviewed what we know and like it would have been boring, for both the reviewers who would have been at a loss for words describing the same thing over again, and for readers, who would not have any element of surpise at all reading this or that review by a given reviewer.

It was me. And how can you say Soulfly is better? Observe:
Soulfly= Nu -> Thrash
Sepultura= Death -> Thrash -> Groove -> Nu -> Hardcore -> Thrash

They're going back to their roots ( :roll: ) whilst Soulfly are just changing to reflect metalcore. And I stand by it: Green is a better vocalist than Max.

Edit: @ Alex: fair enough, the first few sentences were my only problem with it really.

I woulld admit it is my omission not to give it a Major Event, since the band is popular with many and quite influential. Somehow I always keep forgetting abotu that stupid tag in particular. By the same token, Dismember album is a Major Event for me.

Two things.

1. That is not hostile in any way.
2. Danny reviewed Nation, so how does that apply to something Alex reviewed?

I have to side with Alex on this one. I see no reason why a reviewer can't review a band they have little to no affinity or experience of. If anything it gives a more objective view on the music without a tilt to the score (be it severe adulation or biting disappointment)

It's a good thing for a reviewer to refer to a bands earlier work to describe a change (if any) in sound but I see this as the only real advantage in that regard. Obviously from time to time reviewers will actively seek out and review what they love / hate but interest and prior knowledge of a particular band shouldn't stop a person critiquing the MUSIC which is always more important than the band. I try hard to strike a balance between bands I know and bands I don't and I'm sure many others of us do too.

/rant

The new Soulfly is more like old Sepultura than Sepultura have been in 10 years. Metalcore? Come on, man.

This is a very mediocre album.

yo new soulfly is killer its like old sepultura and i think its as good as chaos a.d you people just hear the name and think, listen to new soulfly max doesnt want to play numetal anymore its amazing tribal thrash metal , theres a reason it got an 89/100 on this site

Old Sepultura (ie. Sepultur with Max) certainly beats the pants off Soulfly. But Soulfly certainly beats the pants off new Sepultura. Of course, this is just my opinion.

The style of music a band plays means nothing compared to the actual quality. I'd much rather listen to "good nu-metal" than "bad thrash metal." And Sepultura hasn't released a serious thrash metal song since Biotech is Godzilla.

Yo, dog, what up? I think the apostrophe key on your keyboard is broken. Word up and shit. Ya hearrrrd?

For the record, I've only heard the studio version of that song "Convicted In Life" and I think it's really kick ass. I didn't buy Roorback because at that point I didn't care, but I may pick this one up soon if I can find it in the used bins. I'd buy Roorback, too, if it were cheap.

i only heard the track they released a while ago, and it was pretty crappy.

SEPULTURA suck without Max and Max sucks without Sepultura. but since he's such a fucking BABY, i doubt we'll ever have a reunion.

New Sepultura vs Soulfly - TIE - both mediocre at best
Max vs Derrick - i like Max better, Derrick is only superior on the songs from Chaos AD and beyond (there are live videos, check them out... i like him doing refuse/resist).

i don't want to tarnish my memories of SEPULTURA so i'd rather not listen. if they're not thrashing i'm not interested.

I wont consider this a return to Chaos A.D while songs on the latest album still go for around 3-4 minutes. I know most of the songs on Chaos A.D were short, but i can still hear Roorback in their sound for Dante XII.
This is just Nation/Roorback/Against rolled into one