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Goat · **Posted:** Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:12 pm

Arthur wrote:

In essence, my dear Zad, you are agreeing with me. You and Noodles both brought up the complexities of Cryptopsy, Nile, and The Dillenger Escape plan but failed to mention how that distinguises one track from another. That unpredictability in the music of these bands is EXACTLY whats makes them predictable. You say how you have to be an experienced listener to detect everything they have to offer, but I say having every song be a chaotic death metal train wreck is JUST AS PREDICTABLE as following a "chorus-verse-bridge-chorus" type structure that Dragonforce uses. And Dragonforce is not 100% power metal anyway which is exactly why extremers (as you put it) like Dead Machine and myself are starting to look at power mertal bands in a new light. Here is an excerpt from the review with Herman Li found on this very site.

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I think for some of the guitar, its really melodic and everything, but some of the guitar is a bit like black metal with really fast picking and the drums are more death metal and vocals are a mixture of Power Metal and melodic type stuff. We try to pick all the elements of all the different styles that we listen to and put them together, the speed I guess comes from when we useed to play death metal when we were young.

You are telling me I don't have the listening skill to pick out the complexities of Nile and Cryptopsy, I say you don't have the listening skill to pick out the complexity of Dragonforce. :wink:

You obviously haven't listened to the songs I mentioned in that post. Nile's Sarcofagus isn't a Death Metal train wreck at all, but a very slow, doomy song. AOTW isn't all chaotic as well, by describing them as that you're doing my work for me. And Cryptopsy's The Pestilence That Walks In Darkness is quite melodic for them, again, do your research before talking bollocks.

And I'm not goingagainst Dragonforce, by any means, just pointing out your lack of experience. DEP's Panasonic Youth and Setting Fire To Sleeping Giants are more examples of very different songs. Go listen to them, and you'll see.

Dago · **Posted:** Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:30 pm

Arthur wrote:

I would still own that album if it wasn't for that damn singer. (well whatever you want to call him)

Lord Worm was AWESOME in None So Vile now he sucks.. Kind of wished they kept Mike DiSalvo.

Goat · **Posted:** Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:32 pm

Dago wrote:

Arthur wrote:

I would still own that album if it wasn't for that damn singer. (well whatever you want to call him)

Lord Worm was AWESOME in None So Vile now he sucks.. Kind of wished they kept Mike DiSalvo.

I still prefer Worm, even in this weaker state. DiSalvo never did anything for me...

Arthur · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:23 am

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just pointing out your lack of experience.

Yea, you're just like all the other girls I've met, Your so shallow Zad. I thought you were different. :cry:

Goat · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:04 pm

Arthur wrote:

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just pointing out your lack of experience.

Yea, you're just like all the other girls I've met, Your so shallow Zad. I thought you were different. :cry:

Never trust anyone, they'll fuck you over every time.

And I win! Ha!

Arthur · **Posted:** Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:21 am

Oh noooo you don't Zadith! you do not win. You win NOTHING. DO YOU HEAR ME??? NUH-THING!!!!

Look man, it's not as if I am proposing anything outrageous here, I am not the only one who thinks Cryptopsy and Nile songs sound alike. Here are a few quotes from reviewers from this very site.

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Now, to begin cutting to the chase, something that has always been lacking in the Cryptopsy department was plain old songwriting. Blasphemy Made Flesh differentiated one track from another via usage of movie samples and not much else. None So Vile… uh… they all blended together into one monstrous song on that one as well. Whisper Supremacy… same problem, and even more so with And Then You’ll Beg.

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This reveals the big flaw of the album: You’ve heard all of this before. You’ve heard the ‘epic’songs in In Their Darkened Shrines, the riffing in countless other records, the no-longer-innovative combination of Egyptian instrumentals with death metal blasting… this wasn’t a problem before In Their Darkened Shrines, because they hadn’t any epic songs at that point, but now they’ve run out of things to do with death metal.

Ok yea so Nile has a doomy song and Cryptopsy has a more melodic one, that isn't any different than Dragonforce throwing in a ballad on every album. My point remains the same, these heavy bands aren't any more diverse than Dragonforce. Don't get me wrong, I love the brutality of Nile and Cryptopsy, they most certainly have their place, but I think that when it comes to power metal, death metal has this bad habbit of calling the kettle black.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:28 pm

The first quote didn't mention Once Was Not, their latest, which my ezample was taken from, and the second was written by Aaron, who Is Wrong in his opinion of Annihilation Of The Wicked. We argue about it every time it comes up.

So, you lose again.

noodles · **Posted:** Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:00 am

Augury > Cryptopsy + Nile because they have song variety!!!

all heil the best death metal band alive!!!

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Zad wrote:

The first quote didn't mention Once Was Not, their latest, which my ezample was taken from, and the second was written by Aaron, who Is Wrong in his opinion of Annihilation Of The Wicked. We argue about it every time it comes up.

So, you lose again.

No, you're wrong.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:40 am

Wrong > wrong

Goat · **Posted:** Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:45 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

Zad wrote:

The first quote didn't mention Once Was Not, their latest, which my ezample was taken from, and the second was written by Aaron, who Is Wrong in his opinion of Annihilation Of The Wicked. We argue about it every time it comes up.

So, you lose again.

No, you're wrong.

General D wrote:

Wrong > wrong

Ha!

Cú Chulainn · **Posted:** Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:27 pm

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I have a feeling you and I like a shit ton of the same bands.

same here. Catchy Power Metal for EVER!!!!!!

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