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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:32 pm 
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I wasn't really a fan of their first two albums, but Alaska is amazing.


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I wasn't really a fan of their first three albums, but not listening to them is amazing.


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This record is just growing on me each time I listen to it.
Easily one of 2005 best albums.


Dude, you are a fucking faggot, holy shit.

Then so be it, it's still an amazing album.


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Zeth wrote:
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This record is just growing on me each time I listen to it.
Easily one of 2005 best albums.


Dude, you are a fucking faggot, holy shit.

Then so be it, it's still an amazing album.



That is how you avoid a flamewar.


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Dude, you are a fucking faggot, holy shit.

LoL


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lizardtail wrote:
I wasn't really a fan of their first three albums, but not listening to them is amazing.

:lol: :lol:


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Husker wrote:
Zeth wrote:
This record is just growing on me each time I listen to it.
Easily one of 2005 best albums.


Dude, you are a fucking faggot, holy shit.

Then so be it, it's still an amazing album.


Negative, get your poseur ass out of here, go find a hardcore forum or something.


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I don't see what's particularly amazing about this band, solid though they are. Additionally, I don't see why they're always mentioned in relation to Cephalic Carnage.. am I missing something about their sound?


Because it's an easy, lazy comparison, similar to comparing the sound of Stabbing Westward to Nine Inch Nails?


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Hmmm... best song writing they've done so far, if you are looking for something familiar to the norm, however this album fails almost as badly as the Silent Circus. I enjoyed the s/t to an EXTENT, but that pretty much showed all this band was worth - An insane SOAD. I'll make an effort to re-listen to the debut, but I'll never listen to Alaska again. It's not an acquired taste, it just sucks, but something tells me elitists get off to a band who are instrumentally superior to other bands playing something chaoticly random. If someone played Cryptopsy NSV for the people who like this album, they'd bash the vocals, and call it inaudible noise, then listen to anything they could find with tight death squeals, good production, catchier/more adaptable riffs, and say it'd be the difference between "actual talent," and "musical barf." That's a hunch actually, if anyone says otherwise, I retract the statement.

Alaska is not acquired, nor intriguing. It's not original. And furthermore, it's not extreme. It's a safe medium. Try the latest Impaled release... they're catchy, and their sickened medical interest and dare I say gimmick? ... Is far more thought provoking than anything BTBAM could ever come up with. Not saying Impaled is some kind of end all band, but it's a definite step up. And it's actually metal.


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Holy shit, soft parts AND heavy parts?!

Revolutionary!


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I wasn't really a fan of their first three albums, but not listening to them is amazing.



And a huge LOL-salute to these two posts. Very Holy Terror like, and outta left field.


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OurFinestCoward wrote:
Alaska is not acquired, nor intriguing. It's not original. And furthermore, it's not extreme. It's a safe medium.

I must agree. I understand that there are those who simply enjoy the album and aren't being idiots about it, but there are so many jerkoff metalcore clowns touting this as the be-all end-all of music. It's like lizardtail said recently about Opeth, they are probably the most interesting band someone who is only window-shopping in metal will hear. Similarly, BTBAM is probably the most original and "progressive" act that anyone in that scene is likely to happen upon.


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Radical Cut wrote:
OurFinestCoward wrote:
Alaska is not acquired, nor intriguing. It's not original. And furthermore, it's not extreme. It's a safe medium.

I must agree. I understand that there are those who simply enjoy the album and aren't being idiots about it, but there are so many jerkoff metalcore clowns touting this as the be-all end-all of music. It's like lizardtail said recently about Opeth, they are probably the most interesting band someone who is only window-shopping in metal will hear. Similarly, BTBAM is probably the most original and "progressive" act that anyone in that scene is likely to happen upon.

Then I'm one of those who "simply enjoy the album". I don't care if it's called Death, Black, nu-metal, metalcore or whatever, I just enjoy what I hear. And I do enjoy Alaska more than anything else that I've heard lately. And no, it does not even matter if it's progressive, evolutionary or something similar. Since when does everything have to be original in order to be good, or at least considered good music?

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Husker wrote:
Zeth wrote:
This record is just growing on me each time I listen to it.
Easily one of 2005 best albums.


Dude, you are a fucking faggot, holy shit.

Then so be it, it's still an amazing album.


Negative, get your poseur ass out of here, go find a hardcore forum or something.

You're so cute when your angry :wink:


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Zeth wrote:
Radical Cut wrote:
OurFinestCoward wrote:
Alaska is not acquired, nor intriguing. It's not original. And furthermore, it's not extreme. It's a safe medium.

I must agree. I understand that there are those who simply enjoy the album and aren't being idiots about it, but there are so many jerkoff metalcore clowns touting this as the be-all end-all of music. It's like lizardtail said recently about Opeth, they are probably the most interesting band someone who is only window-shopping in metal will hear. Similarly, BTBAM is probably the most original and "progressive" act that anyone in that scene is likely to happen upon.

Then I'm one of those who "simply enjoy the album". I don't care if it's called Death, Black, nu-metal, metalcore or whatever, I just enjoy what I hear. And I do enjoy Alaska more than anything else that I've heard lately. And no, it does not even matter if it's progressive, evolutionary or something similar. Since when does everything have to be original in order to be good, or at least considered good music?

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Zeth wrote:
Husker wrote:
Zeth wrote:
This record is just growing on me each time I listen to it.
Easily one of 2005 best albums.


Dude, you are a fucking faggot, holy shit.

Then so be it, it's still an amazing album.


Negative, get your poseur ass out of here, go find a hardcore forum or something.

You're so cute when your angry :wink:


That's an alright point, Zeth, if the band speaks to you, I can't bash it, though fuck if I can understand it.


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Zeth wrote:
Radical Cut wrote:
OurFinestCoward wrote:
Alaska is not acquired, nor intriguing. It's not original. And furthermore, it's not extreme. It's a safe medium.

I must agree. I understand that there are those who simply enjoy the album and aren't being idiots about it, but there are so many jerkoff metalcore clowns touting this as the be-all end-all of music. It's like lizardtail said recently about Opeth, they are probably the most interesting band someone who is only window-shopping in metal will hear. Similarly, BTBAM is probably the most original and "progressive" act that anyone in that scene is likely to happen upon.

Then I'm one of those who "simply enjoy the album". I don't care if it's called Death, Black, nu-metal, metalcore or whatever, I just enjoy what I hear. And I do enjoy Alaska more than anything else that I've heard lately. And no, it does not even matter if it's progressive, evolutionary or something similar. Since when does everything have to be original in order to be good, or at least considered good music?

I never implied that originality was a necessary ingredient for good music, the only reason that arguments about originality and prog come up with bands like Opeth and BTBAM is because there is a big dividing line between people on the subject, and it seems to be the cornestone of most people's comments. When I hear something about the new album being "great" or "brilliant" it's often followed with a comment about how "original" and "experimental/progressive" they are. Obviously you don't fall into that group.


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Radical Cut wrote:
Zeth wrote:
Radical Cut wrote:
OurFinestCoward wrote:
Alaska is not acquired, nor intriguing. It's not original. And furthermore, it's not extreme. It's a safe medium.

I must agree. I understand that there are those who simply enjoy the album and aren't being idiots about it, but there are so many jerkoff metalcore clowns touting this as the be-all end-all of music. It's like lizardtail said recently about Opeth, they are probably the most interesting band someone who is only window-shopping in metal will hear. Similarly, BTBAM is probably the most original and "progressive" act that anyone in that scene is likely to happen upon.

Then I'm one of those who "simply enjoy the album". I don't care if it's called Death, Black, nu-metal, metalcore or whatever, I just enjoy what I hear. And I do enjoy Alaska more than anything else that I've heard lately. And no, it does not even matter if it's progressive, evolutionary or something similar. Since when does everything have to be original in order to be good, or at least considered good music?

I never implied that originality was a necessary ingredient for good music, the only reason that arguments about originality and prog come up with bands like Opeth and BTBAM is because there is a big dividing line between people on the subject, and it seems to be the cornestone of most people's comments. When I hear something about the new album being "great" or "brilliant" it's often followed with a comment about how "original" and "experimental/progressive" they are. Obviously you don't fall into that group.

Then I think we understand each other. And I see your point about originality.
Perhaps there could be different degrees of originality, on a scale from 1 to 10, to make things easier for everyone :) Then BTBAM could land on perhaps a score of 7 or 8 in my opinion. But even if they would sound "just like everyone else", I would stick to my statement about Alaska being one of my favoritue albums this year. I just enjoy it that much, pure and simple.


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