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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:00 pm 
Zad wrote:
Wow, a power struggle.

Not even. I said that as a member of this board, not a moderator.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:48 pm 
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Censorship tastes like candy.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:58 pm 
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How about you wannabe admins/mods shut the fuck up!? Losen up, let the guy post his topics, don't read them if you don't want to, just quit being such a god damn arse.

hum, hum... BLACK SAINTRAPING METAL!!!! :roll:


Clint who? Never heard of him.


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Dude, this is a little too much. Your smug, insistent sarcasm overshadows any positive points you may have made here—which I think are nil. The differences between what Clint does and what MIRAJE did are very different.

1. Clint is an active member of this board and generally liked.
2. People actually LIKE what he posts, and they like his site.
3. Though he does advertise his site from this board, he posts news about the site very infrequently. Infrequently enough to where you don't have Metal CD Ratings threads within 10 pages of each other (that's a guess, don't go looking), unlike MIRAJE who would have 3 threads on the first page.

If you're going to be like this you need to delete, lock or combine these threads:

2006 Is Shaping Up To Be A Great Year For Metal! in this forum.
So What 2006 Releases Are You Most Looking Foward To? in Hellheim.

They're the same. I could find tons and tons of other threads about the same subject all over this board. I posted a thread about Dead Soul Tribe before, someone else posted a new one yesterday. You should delete, lock, or combine those, as well. Might as well be consistent.

The issue here is that I think you don't like Clint and/or his updates. That doesn't mean you should be able to react in this manner. The general perception here from other board members is opposite of your view, this is thier board as much as it is your board. I think you've gone too far.


I am a smug, sarcastic, arrogant, caustic, ego-driven, overblown asshole. Why is this still news? Is it a slow week?

And no, I never did like Clint, because every other post of his mentioned his website. I dislike people who come to a website to drive them to another website. Spam bothers me. Heck, it's in the rules thread. I was well within my rights.

As for the topics you noted, the first example is a bad one because people that post in Helheim can post in one, and not in the other, so the threads will be different because quite a few stubbornly remain guests.

If you, personally, started threads about Dead Soul Tribe all over the place, then I'd delete those. If two people do it, I wouldn't have a problem.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:45 pm 
Dead Machine wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Dude, this is a little too much. Your smug, insistent sarcasm overshadows any positive points you may have made here—which I think are nil. The differences between what Clint does and what MIRAJE did are very different.

1. Clint is an active member of this board and generally liked.
2. People actually LIKE what he posts, and they like his site.
3. Though he does advertise his site from this board, he posts news about the site very infrequently. Infrequently enough to where you don't have Metal CD Ratings threads within 10 pages of each other (that's a guess, don't go looking), unlike MIRAJE who would have 3 threads on the first page.

If you're going to be like this you need to delete, lock or combine these threads:

2006 Is Shaping Up To Be A Great Year For Metal! in this forum.
So What 2006 Releases Are You Most Looking Foward To? in Hellheim.

They're the same. I could find tons and tons of other threads about the same subject all over this board. I posted a thread about Dead Soul Tribe before, someone else posted a new one yesterday. You should delete, lock, or combine those, as well. Might as well be consistent.

The issue here is that I think you don't like Clint and/or his updates. That doesn't mean you should be able to react in this manner. The general perception here from other board members is opposite of your view, this is thier board as much as it is your board. I think you've gone too far.


I am a smug, sarcastic, arrogant, caustic, ego-driven, overblown asshole. Why is this still news? Is it a slow week?

And no, I never did like Clint, because every other post of his mentioned his website. I dislike people who come to a website to drive them to another website. Spam bothers me. Heck, it's in the rules thread. I was well within my rights.

As for the topics you noted, the first example is a bad one because people that post in Helheim can post in one, and not in the other, so the threads will be different because quite a few stubbornly remain guests.

If you, personally, started threads about Dead Soul Tribe all over the place, then I'd delete those. If two people do it, I wouldn't have a problem.

You can admit you're an asshole all day long. Fact remains, people don't like assholes. Thus you'll get negative responses. It doesn't bother me either way, really. I'm not you.

But you're a moderator, and as a moderator you may want to leave those traits of yours at the door. They don't bode well with others, and using them as a springboard to verbally berate others under the guise of being "well within your rights" is stupid.


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Eyesore wrote:
You can admit you're an asshole all day long. Fact remains, people don't like assholes. Thus you'll get negative responses. It doesn't bother me either way, really. I'm not you.


Can't disagree.

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But you're a moderator, and as a moderator you may want to leave those traits of yours at the door. They don't bode well with others, and using them as a springboard to verbally berate others under the guise of being "well within your rights" is stupid.


Did you not find the reasoning within the remainder of my post to be adequate?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:42 am 
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Well, this is crappy news. DM, you are "exercising you rights" as WIC would if he was in your position.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:45 am 
Dead Machine wrote:
Concerning your website, who gives a fuck? All the regulars that care about your stupid goddamn site already know about it and go there. You'd get more traffic if you walked around in a real sandwich board than your fucking e-sandwich board that gets on my nerves.

Stop posting new topics about your damn website, and make an all-purpose one for all your updates.



Wow, just wow. There are 1,001 more professional ways to deal with this.

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This may make me sound like a bullying asshole, but I don't honestly care. Just do it, okay? Is that all-right with you?


Sir, yes sir! :roll:
This isn't boot camp, it's a message forum on a music site. Again, there are many more ways to tactfully make a point.

Dead Machine wrote:
I am a smug, sarcastic, arrogant, caustic, ego-driven, overblown asshole. Why is this still news? Is it a slow week?


:shock:

You raelly take pride in that statement? That's disturbing to say the least. Well, those are exactly the qualities that we don't want in a moderator.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:50 am 
Dead Machine wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
You can admit you're an asshole all day long. Fact remains, people don't like assholes. Thus you'll get negative responses. It doesn't bother me either way, really. I'm not you.

Can't disagree.

Eyesore wrote:
But you're a moderator, and as a moderator you may want to leave those traits of yours at the door. They don't bode well with others, and using them as a springboard to verbally berate others under the guise of being "well within your rights" is stupid.

Did you not find the reasoning within the remainder of my post to be adequate?

Partially, yes. I don't see the need for multiple threads. But I think your approach was way off base. Also, I really don't think the amount of posts about his site are enough to warrant such seething sarcasm.


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Mike @ MetalReviews wrote:
Wow, just wow. There are 1,001 more professional ways to deal with this.

Sir, yes sir! :roll:
This isn't boot camp, it's a message forum on a music site. Again, there are many more ways to professionally to make a point.

:shock:

You raelly take pride in that statement? That's disturbing to say the least. Well, those are exactly the qualities that we don't want in a moderator.


Allow me to clarify.

The reason I changed the title of this topic is simple: Because Clint doesn't need to have more than one topic about his website. He never did. I could have gotten the message across in a far more eloquent manner, but I'm not always polite, especially not these days. Perhaps I should pay more attention to what I say.

I didn't mean to drive Clint away; I just wanted him to stop posting new topics about his website. One is enough.

I don't take pride in that statement; just me acknowledging what I am. There's no pride to be found in that fact.

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Partially, yes. I don't see the need for multiple threads. But I think your approach was way off base. Also, I really don't think the amount of posts about his site are enough to warrant such seething sarcasm.


Upon further consideration, I agree. I'll call him over and see if I can smooth over the damage.

Sorry, guys. Let me know again if I ever act like a power-mad tyrant.

EDIT- Never mind, it doesn't seem like that'll be a problem.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:13 am 
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Ouch. Was it by choice DM?


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Ouch. Was it by choice DM?


No.

Twas my fault. I regret my actions, but they're set in e-stone now.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:24 am 
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This is very rare folks. DM admits he is wrong you are in for a real treat here. I've seen him do this once before and it was a very epic moment.














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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:47 am 
Dead Machine wrote:
I don't take pride in that statement; just me acknowledging what I am. There's no pride to be found in that fact.

No pride.

That should ring very loud when you read it back.

What I am.

If you can't be proud of what you are, you change. I don't know what issues you have going on in your personal life, but when I was young my life sucked: alcoholic, abusive father that didn't work, we were poor, my mother was miserable, my family were a bunch theiving assholes, etc...etc (and worse). I could have turned out like an angry, hateful scumbag, but at an early age I figured I'd not turn out that way. It's not hard, just deal with it internally, not externally (when you do that you find yourself in situations like this).

Change. It's a simple concept, really.

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Upon further consideration, I agree. I'll call him over and see if I can smooth over the damage.

I think you should.

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EDIT- Never mind, it doesn't seem like that'll be a problem.

REPENT! :wink:


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Eyesore wrote:
No pride.

That should ring very loud when you read it back.

What I am.

If you can't be proud of what you are, you change. I don't know what issues you have going on in your personal life, but when I was young my life sucked: alcoholic, abusive father that didn't work, we were poor, my mother was miserable, my family were a bunch theiving assholes, etc...etc (and worse). I could have turned out like an angry, hateful scumbag, but at an early age I figured I'd not turn out that way. It's not hard, just deal with it internally, not externally (when you do that you find yourself in situations like this).

Change. It's a simple concept, really.


...you're quite a bit more forward with this then my last psychologist.

Yes, my family situation is a load of caustic, miserable shit. Crazy fuckup sister who'll probably rend my heart in two when she dies of overdose at 20, idiot verbal-abusive stepfather who bullies my mother and hates my sister, mother who is one step away from a nervous breakdown at all times, father who I love but don't see nearly enough, an inability to focus on real issues... I could babble on, but this is just way too personal to discuss on a message board in front of strangers by the dozen. I probably shouldn't even post the above, but you were kind enough to show us all a tad of what once was.

It's not that big a deal as long as there's not much detail.

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I think you should.


I did. Let's see if he returns the message.

Eyesore wrote:
REPENT! :wink:


I've done what I can.


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Metalrevies > Dr Phil

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Seriously you and you alone are in charge of you life you can either change it for the good or leave it in the bad but only YOU can change it.

The thing is that if you have bad things in life and continue to let bad things in your life it's going to eat you up for the rest of your life.

Eyesore and DM thanks for opening yourselves up to us and I hope down the road things go good for both of ya.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:36 am 
Dead Machine wrote:
...you're quite a bit more forward with this then my last psychologist.

Yes, my family situation is a load of caustic, miserable shit. Crazy fuckup sister who'll probably rend my heart in two when she dies of overdose at 20, idiot verbal-abusive stepfather who bullies my mother and hates my sister, mother who is one step away from a nervous breakdown at all times, father who I love but don't see nearly enough, an inability to focus on real issues... I could babble on, but this is just way too personal to discuss on a message board in front of strangers by the dozen. I probably shouldn't even post the above, but you were kind enough to show us all a tad of what once was.

It's not that big a deal as long as there's not much detail.

That sounds familiar and there's probably nothing you can do about it. At 19 years old I'd been dealing with shit like for 8 years at that point. It took me beating the living shit out of my father and realizing that I probably could have killed him INTENTIONALLY to set me into a proactive mode. I'd not been much of a miserable prick outside of my house, but that was scary and made me change. I joined the Air Force then, I didn't want to but it got me away from it all.

And with me gone, my Mother had no protector anymore. That made her smarten up and after 9 years of abuse she finally left him. Now he's a homeless crack addict.

It's a cycle that I needed to extract myself from. I used to get into fights in school all the time, I had a short fuse, or, rather, a low tolerance for bullshit (i.e. you bump into me on purpose in the hallway because you think you're tough with your 4 friends, fine, I'll fuck all 5 of you up, that didn't happen often, but I tried...hahaha). Still, I directed it all at assholes and pieces of shit wannabe gangsters, not just anyone. I picked my battles wisely, I guess.

I also just tried to have fun any chance I could. Being miserable will kill you, I was miserable at home. That's where it stayed. It's a precarious balance, but it's not a hard one. You've gotta walk that line right down the middle until you can remove yourself from the situation. It's impossible to be 100% happy, but you can't be 100% miserable. Walk the line.

You don't have to respond to any of this. I'm 30 years old now. Life is good. I've had a long time to reflect on it all and I don't care if anyone knows my story. As I'm sure you can gather, I'm not the only one who went through something like that. Talking about your frustrations, though, can be much more helpful than taking them out on people.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:04 am 
Ok winter, now it's your turn.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:34 am 
HumanTorch wrote:
Ok winter, now it's your turn.

:D


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