Starting off with Pyramaze, how did you come in contact with them and what about the music drew you to provide vocals for the album?
I got a call from Claus from Intromental, shortly after the news had hit the presses that I had parted ways with BALANCE OF POWER. He asked me if I would be interested in hearing a new project that he thought would be great with my voice on it. I said send me some stuff, he emailed me three tunes on
MP3 and I was very impressed with the production and mood of the songs. I liked the open-ness, the melodic-ness and the Power of the tunes. I’m like sure sounds good, let’s make an album!
How come you decided to join the band full time as before you were going to just be the session vocalist?
Well, I’ve been doing a lot of side projects and most of the time, though I really like the tunes and the album there is something I’m not totally digging in the end when the album is finished. This one, I didn’t have that problem, there is a solid chemistry between the players and the songs, it is a band and it’s obvious from the songs, even though Michael writes the stuff, each member contributes his own “musical essence” into the tunes. Michael is fine with me coming up with my own melodies and if I feel the need to change the words around for phrasing or if it just makes more sense to me as I sing he gives me the freedom to work the song as he does with all the guys.
How was the mini run of dates that you guys did in September over in Europe?
It was great!! The dates went off really, really well. Met a lot of nice people saw a lot of road and airspace and rocked a lot of metalheads! What more do you need when your doing shows?
Are you surprised at how successful the band has been so far? I’ve noticed that the album has popped in many zine’s “Top debut’s” or “Top Albums” of the year lists.
Not surprised no, happy that others hear what we hear in it. This album was a labor of love for Michael and when I received even the rough tracks, it sounded fantastic.
When I heard the final mixes, I was like….dude, these tunes sound killer!
I’m still not sick of the album, and that’s saying a lot!
When performing the songs live, what songs fill your veins with liquid metal so to speak?
Well there are a few that pump up the testosterone levels for me….
Sleepy Hollow, The Journey, Melancholy Beast, and My favorite to play live that totally kicks is Power of Imagination!
Going way back to the start of everything, how did you begin your singing career?
Oh dude, do we have to? Let’s just say a friend asked me to sing for his band, I always wanted to be in a band as the singer so it worked great, except, I couldn’t sing very well. I had about a one octave range, was listening to melodic rock and the band was a total bunch of KISS heads!
Tell me about your days in Gemini.
Long story, tired wanna go to sleep……if you were typing this, I would spew on, but since I’m typing it at the moment, I’ll just say that I hooked up with the band after I left
My first group called FREELANCE, ….no….I didn’t name it! Anyway…
This was in 1986…we started doing shows 2 weeks after I was in the band. Needless to say some of the stuff was a little loose on my end, but I quickly brought it together
It was a cover band in the beginning, the band had a few mainstay clubs and ballrooms that we would rotate dates with and it was all nice, but wasn’t going anywhere.
After a year I’m like, gotta go dudes, I want to make my own music. The band was like
….we can do that! So we started breaking into new major markets like Minneapolis/St. Paul/ Milwaukee/ Chicago / Winnepeg / Kansas City and we rotated these while playing full time 8 days a week as the song goes. We’d practice in the clubs during the day, writing our own material, then once a month book a couple of days studio time, and hammer out the new tunes we’d come up with, soon we had an album. We’d try the tunes in the clubs the night after we’d write them and see how they went over, it was pretty cool. By the time we had our first album together, we had a very large fanbase
that wanted to buy it. We were selling hundreds of copies a night off the stage. It was
really something.
Gemini was also the birth of Nightmare Records, did it start off as just an outlet to release the bands music or did you always want it to become a big label?
I guess I don’t think of Nightmare Records as a big label, we’re still the underdog in my book, but yes it was the birth of Nightmare records, the name Nightmare records came from a song on the first GEMINI album called NIGHTMARE. I was particularly proud of the lyric and the song and we needed a ficticious label name for our new indie release.
I’m like, hey let’s call it Nightmare records…The artist that did the Gemini art, made me a logo and I’m still using it though I’ve made some slight changes along the way.
Around 1995 after I’d left Gemini, I decided to help my local musician friends out with distribution, and started recruiting bands like LIFEFORCE, PASSION, MALICIOUS, GODHEAD, TRAGIC DREAM and a few others. Nightmare began to build now 15 years after it’s inception it’s a fairly known label in the metal community.
How did the situation between the rest of Gemini and you dissolve?
Same story as most bands….Tension and dissention in the ranks, it just stopped being fun when we were playing. So it was either fire everyone at that point or just quit. So I opted to quite and started KINGS MACHINE.
After Gemini you released the King’s Machine, who only had one album. Was this just a one off to release some modern, mid nineties rock, or was it going to be a full time band before you joined Balance of Power?
It was meant to be a full time band, we wrote two albums worth of material before
We released the first album, we have 2 hours of live multi track stuff mixed and a full album in the can…I may release this stuff one of these days. Originally we had recorded and mixed the album with the intent of shopping it to a major label in the US.
Well that just didn’t seem to happen we did have a few nibbles but nothing to mention.
So I released our first album A STATE OF MIND on Nightmare, it got great reviews and sold very well for me.
How did the guys in Balance of Power get a hold of you to join?
I knew the Keyboardist in BOP Ivan Gunn, he had a small company in England called
Anthem Records, we had worked together getting them deals in Japan and Europe.
So one day, he calls me and asks me if I knew of anyone that could fill the bill with BOP.
He said their singer Tony wasn’t really working on the new material that they were doing
since they had switched main guitarists. I gave him a few names and said I may be interested, though to be honest, I was never really all that impressed with their first album ; ) when I got the tunes though I liked them a lot more, they were a lot heavier and much more progressive, a lot more my thing. I demo’d up 4 songs I believe and sent them
mixed roughly on a cassette tape in late 1997. They loved them and asked me If I would sing for them.
What was it like being in your first international group?
Not much different really, except you can’t get together anytime you want, but when you're in a regular band, you can’t really do that either, there is always something coming up with someone’s schedule. So at least this way you know what you have and you work on stuff on your own and send each other the ideas.
Over the course of the three albums that you were involved in Balance of Power grew from a small time Prog Power act to an established Melodic Metal band. What are some of the things that you remember the most fondly from those years?
It’s funny when you say grew….when your in the band, you just don’t know how
Much it’s growing, I mean you see the reviews, you see the interviews, you see the radio
Playlists….but you never really see the sales figures…with the exception of in the US where I was selling our albums, I never got any sales figures, that even sounded remotely
real. Anyway, Yes the band seemed to be right on the verge of really going somewhere,
However there are a few things or maybe a few people holding the band back from making the next step and because of that they will either dwindle to a 3 piece or have a revolving door with players. But I will always remember the great music we made and the times we had together.
What abilities in terms of singing did you learn in your tenure with Balance of Power, because your voice sounds so much stronger since the Book of Secrets album to today.
Well, first off thank you….I don’t know really, it’s just evolution I guess, you keep what you like, ditch what you don’t. I explored a few tones from my cover years, incorporated the ones that seem to fit me and the music we were doing at the time and worked them into my voice.
Do you have any regrets with your time spent in Balance of Power or do the good times far outweigh the bad?
NO regrets, loved the time there, and I’m proud of what we did together musically, it was just time to move on so that I can continue to grow as a musician and they could do things the way they wanted.
After the split you became involved in quite a few projects, Defyance, Empire, Mattson, did you ever consider joining any of these groups full time?
Pretty much it was all just lending my talents. There was a time when Empire was more than that. I was asked to tour with them but the tour was a lame tour. In fact, the band that was going to headline the thing, I was like dude we have way more credibility than [the headliner] why are we opening. It was a long tour and basically I just said no, they couldn’t justify the amount of money I was asking.
Around this time is when it seems to me that Nightmare Records started to grow exponentially with distributing titles and releasing foreign bands on these shores. Is it a hassle balancing the business side of things with your singing career?
It becomes very very time consuming. I spend a lot of time every day on Nightmare. As Yan will testify to you it takes away time from my projects. I’m engineering the mix and producing it so it takes a lot of exponential time. There’s a lot of work on the album but its coming together nicely its sounding pretty good.
Do you consider yourself more a musician or a label boss?
I always think of myself first as a musician.
If push came to shove and you had to make a decision to do your singing full time to the point where you couldn’t concentrate on Nightmare anymore would you ever give the duties to someone else or sell the company?
I could given the reality of the situation, if a band really takes off I couldn’t do both. I’ve considered it several times it would probably be my wife who would manage the company and if nothing else I would sell it.
Does Nightmare Records actively sign bands or is it mainly an outlet to release underground Power / Progressive acts?
That is what it is. I will help bands and do what I can. There’s several bands that send me things that I work with and give them my opinion and help them to achieve a final project. I help them with art layouts with manufacturing cds and want to pay for their own pressing and ill help distribute them. There’s no real decisive way that I work, I’m open to working in any capacity if they want to work with but if I want to put my money behind them I have to really believe it.
Have you ever financially supported bands with your own money?
It depends on what you call that. If you mean promoting or advertising then yes but as to putting a huge part of my money into their pocket as an advance before the album is released, no.
What out of the projects you have been involved with between Balance of Power and Pyramaze are you the most proud of?
That’s a good question. I am proud of all the work I have done with the various groups but all the projects were mixed by someone else and I’m not really happy with the mixes on the albums, there’s parts that I would do differently if I had been more involved in them. However if given that you’re talking just the songs and performances, I really like them all similarly but the Empire would be the best.
How did you get involved with Avian?
Through David Ellefson actually. Yan was working with him first and he started producing this project and recording Yan’s songs and he called me and said he had this project that was pretty cool and you might want to check it out. Yan got excited about this and we figured something out.
At the moment is it another full time band with Jonah or did you just do session vocals?
It remains yet to be seen. I’m thinking Pyramaze will be my band and all else will be side projects. It depends on what legs the album has and what people think of it and then it might become a another priority. I think its going to do very well, it will definitely do better than the other side projects I have done. I have been taking good care with the engineering and production. It will come out complete and done right, at least with my opinion of what right is.
With both you and Jonah in the band do you feel that the album will be scrutinized more solely because Pyramaze is such a success?
Its very possible. I hadn’t considered that. I think that the sound is entirely different and I don’t think that people are going to compare them too much. Its like apples to oranges the band sounds entirely different.
How far along is the album, Guardians of Time, in terms of being completed and being released?
It’s not there yet. The main hold up is a couple of things and Nightmare is exceptionally busy in the Christmas season. I haven’t been able to get my guitar friend to come over and finish the solos. Hopefully well get it put together in the next few months and get it finished and shopped.
Will you release the album through Nightmare Records?
I always look for another label but I know Yan is comfortable with me releasing it and it always seems to make more sense doing it on Nightmare in the US.
Avian lineup 2005 (as pictured above): Jonah Weingarten keys, Noah Martin bass, Yan Leviathan guitars, Lance King vocals.
Avian recording lineup 2004: Jonah Weingarten keys, Lance King vocals, Yan Leviathan guitars, David Small drums, David Ellefson bass.
Are there any other projects you’ve been involved in that have yet to be released yet?
I recorded with a Brazilian band Shining Star. I completed that before I did vocals on the Pyramaze album. Due to very odd behavior from the Brazilian label company I retained the masters cos they didn’t pay me for producing the album. Its actually going to be shopped this year and we’ve come to a resolution between the label, the band and myself and we’re going to get it out there.
Looking back over the years do you ever yearn for the days of Gemini where you gigged around and sold cds out of your car?
I actually still do the club scene. I play in clubs with Decibel and still sell cds out the back of my car at shows haha. That’s a really hard question cos you’re comparing apples to oranges. I like it now with the way everything is but I would love for the scene to be as strong as it was back then. My sales would also be a lot higher too (laughs).