Metal Reviews

I've heard Crimson and Crimson II, they were OK... guitars were kinda over-distorted though and it took all of the power out of the riffs

Is anyone else confused as to why Dead Machine clicks on Opeth threads when he clearly does not like them?

And complaining about it being the same 2 minutes 3 times over is like saying metal sucks because they always repeat riffs

Are we to continue the endless quoting and arguing? Meh... oh well.

Those bands have a similar style but Opeth produces an entirely different sound than the others and Opeth still does what they do better. Thats my opinion at least.


No, not exactly. Similar? Yes. Theres some good soloing to be found there too. It's not like it's just the same riff played over and over. Noodles also has a good point. You are being far too analytical about simple details that MIGHT seem like a detraction to SOME people. This is fast becoming a pointless debate.


Yes. Yes I am. How exactly do you "flow" into an acoustic part better? Slowly turn down the volume or... Ooo I know! He can announce the acoustic sections with a "WATCH OUT! I'm about to play a dramatic acoustic passage. It will be emotive." I'd buy that shit. They take a theme and create different moods that change when they want it to change in order to fit with the lyrical message. A damn good example is Demon of the Fall.

Man, all I can say is that I disagree with your opinion on Dirge for November.

Hmm. What do you find is wrong with it besides the... good production (those bastards). ?

DM will one day, I hope, realize that arguing online is worthless. I used to do the same thing. Quoting back and forth (which gets tricky after a while), threads a mile long, picking each others' paragraphs apart and arguing sentences and not whole thoughts, and it would go on for hours. Such a waste of time.

One day I sat there and realized that I just spent 6 hours arguing with some idiot in Oklahoma over the average weight of a grapefruit! :shock: Hahaha. It's just pointless, but sometimes it's hard to not get fired up about something! Like, KITTIE RULES, YOU FUCKS!!

And oh yeah, Dan Swano is the man! Hit the bricks!

Heh, I used to do the same thing but it was about politics. It's been a while though. It's kind of fun when you're bored *shrugs*. I respect people who defend their opinions even if they are wron... errr even if I disagree with them.

"Used to" my ass!

Used to what your ass? I must have been drunk.

To clear this up for anyone wondering, it's because I really like to argue about stuff with people. Ken, I know it's pointless- it's nigh-impossible to change someone's opinion on the net. But I don't care about that: I just like arguing.



Care to back up your opinion with statements?



Here's why it's becoming pointless: Because you won't acknowledge this as a fact. It IS the same damned thing. There is a two-minute song in there, and then they play it three times. If there are changes, they're so minimal that even the Burzum fan in me doesn't notice them or become interested.



Flow and mood are integral parts of long songs by bands like Opeth, but Opeth do not manage to preserve mood with their acoustic sections. Ghost of Perdition: the main riffs do not have the same mood as the second acoustic break, for example. Other bands, such as Woods of Ypres, manage to project a variety of moods other than melancholy or sadness of some sort with their acoustic parts, and thus FLOW into different moods BETTER.

Debating is better. Intelligently discussing. Arguing is just annoying. And I'll say this, it will be cool with you and the other guy, but it will annoy every other person on the board.

In the In Flames thread, I didn't give a shit that we were arguing but everyone else was annoyed. I'm not telling you not to do it, by all means, go ahead. I will tell you, though, when I chose to not argue online I was simply baffled as to why I'd ever done it in the first place. You're right, it's pointless. Really, really pointless. But that's cool if you want to do it.

I can't be a hypocrite about it.

This debate is flooding the topic. I don't want to annoy anyone with it. If you really want to, I'll continue this little discussion of ours in another topic more suited for it. Either way works for me.

I take these opportunities as they come. There'll be another one.



And neither will I. You're absolutely 100% correct. It's pointless, solves nothing, drives up blood pressure, and annoys people.

But I enjoy doing it, and as such, since it's not killing or really hurting anyone, I'll continue.

I'm done with it tonight. I'll probably type a response tomorrow if I have time/want to.

But you're talking about Opeth, so I guess it's partly on-topic! Hahaha.

Well, they used to have a great innovation factor, the songs on In Their Darkened Shrines had a good deal of atmospheric parts, mostly on the last half of the album. It was deep and varied, and it standed above the concept called "song". This new one is just a heap of songs again, not bad, but not groundbreaking, that's why it will get my 60 to 70 out of 100.

I don't mean "I never listen to edge of sanity because I hate them". I meant I don't own enough of their stuff to make an informed judgement.

Ah. My mistake. I highly recommend them, in that case.

Really? On most of the songs I sensed a great deal of atmosphere, especially their epics. The tracks don't really follow the normal concept of a "song" either except for a few. Oh well, I sure like it a lot. I'd score it in the 80s some where.

I second that motion!

Acknowledged.

That sounds fantastic, excluding Opeth who I'm sick of seeing, and don't really feel like seeing a third time to see the opening bands. Maybe I'll just leave.

Edit: Edge of Sanity!! I've been listening to them and Diabolical Masquerade almost exclusively lately after acquiring the rest of the EoS catalogue and finally getting my hands on Death's Design. Fantastic bands. Crimson I and II are easily two of my favorite albums of all time, and Death's Design is up there as well.