the666th wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Well, you're missing my point. First, your second paragraph here cancels out your first paragraph.
I don't see how. Can you explain, instead of stating?
They cannot cancel each other, because they deal with different subjects: in the first I said how great O:M is and how nothing will change this, in the second I explained why stories aren't very important to me. Where's the contradiction, the canceling?
Stating and explaining should be the same thing, no? You say you don't see the connection between part two and part one, then you explain yourself and try and say the music is all that matters. Then you go on to say you never paid attention to the lyrics or the concept of the album, thus making anything you say about the connection between the two albums completely invalid.
Yes, the music is great, but one of the main reasons that album has sustained such high esteem amongst music is the story behind the music. If there wasn't that great mystery there the album would still be great, but would definitely not be held to such high esteem in 2005. You may love it, and you may not have paid attention to the story, but I'd bet a million dollars that overall, in general, the album would not be recognized as one of the greatest albums ever without the story behind it. I personally think musically Rage For Order is their best album, and it's definitely on par with Mindcrime, but you don't see people talking about that album like they do Mindcrime. What's the difference between the two? The story.
A bad story in the sequel ruins the legacy of the first album. Plain and simple. You never paid attention to the story, so your opinion is really pointless. And I say that in no way to sound like an asshole.
the666th wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
If you've not paid attention to the story, how can you comment on it's impact?
I didn't.
If you say so.
the666th wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
The next album directly reflects on the old album, especially the story! The question of "Who Killed Mary?" is probably the biggest thing that has carried this album, yes the music is great, but the mystery is greater!
It's not that question that carried the album, but the quality of the music on it. I for one wasn't even aware there was a question about who killed Mary until this discussion, and I liked the album just fine. If I want good mystery/crime stories I'll re-read some Agatha Christie or Arthur Conan Doyle. If I want some great music I'll maybe listen to some old Queensryche.
See my first reply.