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Jon is a very passionate musician, I really see no difference in what he says in interviews and what, say, Zakk Wylde says, or Rich Ward says.

When did this thread have anything to do with that? My point is that as a fan he has a choice to like the music or not. Jon has NO OBLIGATION to produce the type of music that this "fan" expects from Iced Earth.

He's clearly disappointed and that's fine, bands disappoint me all the goddamn time, but I don't then go on a tirade about the band, and verbally attack them. Why? Because they write music for themselves, not for me. I mean, this is probably the most popular Iced Earth site out there, far better than the official site, so now tons and tons of Iced Earth fans are exposed to his personal bitchfest all because he's not happy with Iced Earth's music now. That is childish and disrespectful.

Does Jon deserve that sort of blatant disrespect? Did Jon attack this idiot? Jon is probably extremely appreciative of this website, it is linked on the official page. But does this guy just gracefully bow out? Now he essentially goes, "Waaah! Jon isn't writing the songs I want to hear! Waaaah! And he keeps talking about his childhood! I hate him now!" Boo! If interviewers wouldn't stop asking the same fucking questions, Jon would not be giving the same fucking answers all the time! But that's Jon's fault?

So my point was that this is the worst kind of fan, a person who thinks he owns some sort of stock in the band and has a say in what they do, and when they don't do it, they throw a temper tantrum, in this case an e-version.

And everyone loves Zakk, right? :roll:

Jon doesnt write music for himself...thats a crock of shit. He writes music so that everybody will like him and buy his records. This seems like a perfectly reasonable explanation of what he has been doing lately as every successive IE release is more watered down and accesable than the last. So to say that he's writing these songs for himself is totally absurd. Jon is a rock star...and rock star's are obsessed with sales.

OK, so Jon making "supposed" more-accessible music means it's so people will like him, and for money and whatnot, but someone leaving Iced Earth to work in Megadeth isn't, right?

Come on, the opinions on Iced Earth's music are just that, opinions! I don't see how the music is more accessible now!? They've been a VERY accessible band since the beginning. The one thing holding them back from being totally accessible was the shit singers on their first two albums, but you dolts (I mean that in a VERY friendly way! :roll: ) say those are their best albums, which to me seems like a band's popularity level determines whether you'll like a band or not.

I have friends like this. They LOVE a band until they get popular, then they suck, though they never changed. Pffft!

OK, so Jon making "supposed" more-accessible music means it's so people will like him, and for money and whatnot, but someone leaving Iced Earth to work in Megadeth isn't, right?

Well money, and the fact that Jon is impossible to work for.

I dont hate Iced Earth because they are popular now (well, if you want to call them popular that is). I simply dont like what Iced Earth is currently doing. IMHO, TIm Owens is mediocre at best, and the stripped down sound of GLorius Burden is no where near the sound of Night of the Stormrider or my favorite IE album, Burnt Offerings. And yes I know that Gettysburg has a full symphony orchestra on it. Big deal. Give me Dante's Inferno over that anyday.

As for the sound on TGB, I agree that the mix is a beat weak, but if you're a musician you'd know this is a byproduct of Pro-Tools and the like. Just like early 80's metal albums sounded weak, these bands don't know what the fuck they're doing with Pro-Tools yet, thus we get weak mixes. TGB is not the only album I have this complaint about. It pisses me off.

And if any of you are going to discuss the greatest band in the world, spell it right! It's KITTIE, not Kitty. Assholes. :evil:

I agree. If he's just not into the band as much anymore, shut it down. But to whine and insult Jon seems childish.

It sucks, this was a great site with a lot of KILLER info on early Iced Earth/Purgatory songs. It's too bad. You'd think he'd just leave it up for "historical" purposes, you know?

Except for the fact that you have to pay to by the month to keep a site up. Unless it's on a free server, which we all know those suck.

After all, he supported Sharon's attack on Iron Maiden.



There once was a time when Jon wasn't completely like a rock star, but now there is nothing but a rock star attitude in him. Just look at the number of lineup changes in Iced Earth (at least one change per album), its abusrd. I also want to point out that Jimmy MacDonough decided to leave Iced Earth for Megadeth, which means he'd rather work for Dave Mustaine (who I've heard isnt the easiest boss to get along with) instead of working for Jon.

As for the comment about people being bitchy and whiny, I wasnt pointing that comment at any one in particular, so Eyesore, dont take personal offense to it, it was a generic comment.

Okay, here's something I just realized. These last three or so years there have been TONS of reunions and reunion tours. This year alone we had Judas Priest's first new album with Rob Halford back at the mike, Anthrax with Joey Belladonna possibly making a perminant return to the band (shows how desperate these guys are to rekindle past success), Testament reuniting with Alex Skolnick and Louie Clemente, etc.

I'm willing to bet my money that in about two or so years, Iced Earth will do a reunion tour with Barlow, then kick Owens out and bring Barlow back as the lead vocalist.