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Quite possibly, and yes, agreed. I think both are some of the best directors around these days, making some of the most interesting films.


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Really like the Coens. Maybe it's just my weird taste, but think the likes of Fargo, O Brother, Miller's Crossing, Hudsucker Proxy, No Country, etc etc all great films. Even liked that Ladykillers remake... Not saying they're perfect, though.


I think there is some overlap between fans/not fans of QT and the Coen Brothers. The Coens and Tarantino are certainly mutual fans.
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Just saw Django Unchained... It was everything I was hoping for and more. So epic.


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actually i like Tarantino (his movies sometimes drag a bit but overall i think he's awesome), just not the Coens.

the fucking cinema only had Django Unchained fully dubbed. i'll be damned if i'm listening to Samuel L. Jackson in fucking brazilian portuguese. in fact, ALL the movies were dubbed except Silver Linings Playbook, which i decided to skip on.

no wonder no one speaks english here... or in spain, france... all dubbing countries. (i'm not saying it's the main cause, but it certainly can't help)


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Silver Linings Playbook is such a meh film. I can't believe it's getting so much praise, I mean look at the plot. It has been done a million times.


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no wonder no one speaks english here... or in spain, france... all dubbing countries. (i'm not saying it's the main cause, but it certainly can't help)


As a uniquely placed observer, what other reasons might you identify? It does seem that English has made greater inroads generally into Germanic, rather than Romance, language countries.


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really? from my single trip to Gemany (Koln) i wasn't too impressed with them either :lol: although the Dutch and Nordics seem all seem to speak excellent English.

in France and Spain i don't think they put much emphasis on teaching and practising English, most of their TV is dubbed, and they generally seem too lazy for foreign languages. also some French schools place English as an option along with German or Spanish, and i've met a few that chose that instead of English, including people who don't live anywhere near the borders. in the past both Spain and Portugal used to teach French ahead of English, although that doesn't explain why many Spanish today seem to speak neither, plus the sheer size of their countries and reach of their languages already mean they're never too isolated.

i'd put it down partly to sheer laziness or arrogance in France and Spain, because many people seem to speak nothing but their own language, and partly to the remaining influence of Latin languages in those places.

in Portugal they taught English from 5th to 12th grade until around 2000. after that they started teaching starting on 1st grade. the vast majority of movies and TV shows aren't dubbed but subtitled. while Portuguese is spoken by about 200M people (more than French i think, suck it frogs!), most of them are in Brazil and Africa, so as a small, isolated country in Europe maybe we needed English more than our neighbours did. languages are considered important in our education, everyone leaves high school with at least basic command of a third language.

never visited Italy, but the Italians i met were fluent in English and for some reason felt even more at home than us with other Latin languages. maybe Italian is closer to the root Latin so it's easier to make sense of the "sister" languages??

finally there's Romania but who cares about them lol. some of the hottest girls around though.

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oh yeah on topic, just saw Death at a Funeral (American version), meh.


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really? from my single trip to Gemany (Koln) i wasn't too impressed with them either :lol: although the Dutch and Nordics seem all seem to speak excellent English.

in France and Spain i don't think they put much emphasis on teaching and practising English, most of their TV is dubbed, and they generally seem too lazy for foreign languages. also some French schools place English as an option along with German or Spanish, and i've met a few that chose that instead of English, including people who don't live anywhere near the borders. in the past both Spain and Portugal used to teach French ahead of English, although that doesn't explain why many Spanish today seem to speak neither, plus the sheer size of their countries and reach of their languages already mean they're never too isolated.

i'd put it down partly to sheer laziness or arrogance in France and Spain, because many people seem to speak nothing but their own language, and partly to the remaining influence of Latin languages in those places.

in Portugal they taught English from 5th to 12th grade until around 2000. after that they started teaching starting on 1st grade. the vast majority of movies and TV shows aren't dubbed but subtitled. while Portuguese is spoken by about 200M people (more than French i think, suck it frogs!), most of them are in Brazil and Africa, so as a small, isolated country in Europe maybe we needed English more than our neighbours did. languages are considered important in our education, everyone leaves high school with at least basic command of a third language.

never visited Italy, but the Italians i met were fluent in English and for some reason felt even more at home than us with other Latin languages. maybe Italian is closer to the root Latin so it's easier to make sense of the "sister" languages??

finally there's Romania but who cares about them lol. some of the hottest girls around though.

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oh yeah on topic, just saw Death at a Funeral (American version), meh.


You are more informed than I on Germans, I just noticed that in Scandinavia they spoke English very well. Interesting that you noticed a difference between Italians and French/Spanish, poking another big whole in any theory I might have wondered about.

Your explanation about Portugal suggests that is really all about how, and when, English is taught (I'm betting 1st grade makes a huge difference in gaining fluency over 5th grade), and I think you might be on to something about France and Spain maybe leaning on each other a bit. And maybe it is big country/small country thing too, as people from the Netherlands have a reputation for being extremely good at English too.


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Goat wrote:
Quite possibly, and yes, agreed. I think both are some of the best directors around these days, making some of the most interesting films.


Yeah if we're talking hollywood they're basically top tier. They both also agree with my PHILOSOPHY OF ART that humour and serious emotions should coexist.


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well, Germans i got from visiting the country.. once. they do dub most of the stuff on TV though.

true about Dutch people. and many seem to speak German too, dunno if due to similarity or geography or... as for Italians, to be fair the ones i met were all on exchange programmes so there might be some predisposition for languages. on the other hand i've met many French and Spanish exchange students with awful English.

ON TOPIC - Planet Terror - good stuff.


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Wrong thread. Seriously no more drunk posting. One day.


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Seeing A Clockwork Orange in theater tomorrow.

ooh lah lah


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Seeing A Clockwork Orange in theater tomorrow.

ooh lah lah
like drama theater or movie theater!? Both would be awesome.


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Movie theater. A big one is showing a bunch of classics this week (2001, Clockwork Orange, Pulp Fiction, Gremlins, Jaws)

damn i just checked and oldboy is playing tomorrow while i'm at work. damn damn damn.


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Movie theater. A big one is showing a bunch of classics this week (2001, Clockwork Orange, Pulp Fiction, Gremlins, Jaws)

damn i just checked and oldboy is playing tomorrow while i'm at work. damn damn damn.
That is awesome. I would love to see 2001 and Jaws in a theater. Jealous.


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I wish they were doing one a week instead of all of them in the same week. It's almost making me want to spend all day in a movie theater. But yeah it is pretty awesome. There's a cinema in my university's student building that does similar things pretty regularly, but it's cool to have a commercial theater doing it.


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I wish they were doing one a week instead of all of them in the same week.
You would figure that would be a bigger draw and give word of mouth a chance to spread news of the event. One night a week do a double feature or something.


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Clockwork Orange was great. Love the use of music, the way views of justice are presented but not endorsed, the humour, Malcolm McDowell's facial expressions.


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noodles wrote:
Clockwork Orange was great. Love the use of music, the way views of justice are presented but not endorsed, the humour, Malcolm McDowell's facial expressions.
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noodles wrote:
Clockwork Orange was great. Love the use of music, the way views of justice are presented but not endorsed, the humour, Malcolm McDowell's facial expressions.
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Not my favorite Kubrick, but still a Kubrick, so a big +1


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