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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:28 pm 
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Do you get your daily fix of Socialist bullshit from Moveon.org or something? I swear to god you are so plugged up with far-left nonsense, you may as well gain 500 lbs, wear a ballcap, and make movies.


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It's not nonsense, the Republican solution to the job crisis is nonexistent.

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Cú Chulainn wrote:
It's not nonsense, the Republican solution to the job crisis is nonexistent.


I never once posited that the Republican party offered any sort of viable solution to the economic woes of the country. But what TraptunderLenin is proposing is more of the same leftist bullshit that has screwed the country over for two consecutive presidencies, more bailouts, more regulations, and entitlement programs for social leaches to bankrupt the country in furtherance of his elusive ghost called equality. Leftist economics are always punitive to the private sector, and as a result we can expect to see a crash sooner rather than later if political retards like Trapt continue destroying the country with failed economic practices.


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You realise that leftist economic policies are what have made places like Scandinavia, Switzerland, Germany and the UK high-quality, safe, secure countries, right? Keynesian economics actually works, I don't know why America has such a hard time grasping this.

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Well, not the UK, at least.


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Anyway, let's talk about the #occupy? movements. Interesting divergence of views here:

http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes ... 38328.html

I've met Sam Bowman, the thinktank fella, he's a top chap and has a serious point about how the protesters should focus on the damaging bailouts that the conservative ignores with his talk of making them read Animal Farm.

This is interesting too (if clearly biased):

http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2 ... eport.html

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Why are you at the Stock Exchange, I asked? We hate corporations, they answered whilst tweeting on their iPads and sipping a Starbucks Latte – I was deafened by Irony Klaxons blasting in my ears. Wall Street companies were bailed out but the London Stock Exchange has never borrowed money in my name, so why not go to Parliament or the Banks, where the real cowards and thieves live? “Erm…the church here has been really nice to us”


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Cú Chulainn wrote:
You realise that leftist economic policies are what have made places like Scandinavia, Switzerland, Germany and the UK high-quality, safe, secure countries, right? Keynesian economics actually works, I don't know why America has such a hard time grasping this.

Leftist policies have also reduced the inhabitants of said countries to pussies.


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15177652

I hope you foreign bods can watch this. Hilarious interview with the Mayor of London.


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:lol:

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Goat wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15177652

I hope you foreign bods can watch this. Hilarious interview with the Mayor of London.


:lol: Just wow. I wish there were interviewers like this here. How could this guy be elected?

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He can't give a speech that isn't hilarious, and is massively popular for it. His main, Labour opponent in the Mayoral election was basically a creepy communist who is famous for breeding newts. Londoners obviously like a laugh!

Arnie's opinion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wrSUeDxBhg

Edit - Arnie and Boris should have their own tv show, where they go around solving murders together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww2GpsgQ ... re=related


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Goat wrote:


:lol: :lol:


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Paxman, the guy interviewing Boris in that first clip, is awesome too, but for different reasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCo7qbzEX3c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4DlXdWbGGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5uHegwQvyM

Etc.


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The first link is :lol: Oh we really need more people like that on TV. Awesome.


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I feel like I should be telling Jonny Frenchman to piss off and stop telling our Dave what to do re the Eurozone... Think this will all matter little come the next election compared to the economy overall, however.


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Goat wrote:
I feel like I should be telling Jonny Frenchman to piss off and stop telling our Dave what to do re the Eurozone... Think this will all matter little come the next election compared to the economy overall, however.


The dwarf is out of control. Sorry about that.


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Cú Chulainn wrote:
You realise that leftist economic policies are what have made places like Scandinavia, Switzerland, Germany and the UK high-quality, safe, secure countries, right? Keynesian economics actually works, I don't know why America has such a hard time grasping this.


I think it depends a lot on the culture. I don't think Keynesian economics have worked in Britain - the perpetual lingering higher poverty rates and occassional social strife that comes out of this is a good indicator.

I know it's net based etc but this is an interesting article on poverty in Britain - as you can see povery is increasing in Britain.


http://www.jrf.org.uk/publications/pove ... -1968-2005



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From an Australian perspective, the social welfare state has:

1. Depleted the worker pool by lowering participation and making Australia highly reliant on a constant flow of migrants.

2. Has created a very poorly educated society (apparently between 33% and 50% of all Australians are functionally illiterate). I've seen this myself - most of my friends finished 13 years of school and could not read.

3. Helped exacerbate issues with substance abuse.

4. Failed to create an effective industrial base.


Australia is rich because it has a lot of mineral wealth that people such as the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are willing to pay a lot of money for.

An ex-Australian Prime Minister once said "Australia has a first world standard of living and a third world economy."


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Police beating up protestors or "Democracy in Australia":

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/occup ... 1meym.html

Not the first time either.

Australia allows protests only if you apply for a permit first (and also get public liability insurance).

I know people at the local magistrate's courts and they're often seeing protestors charged with trespassing, making a public nuisance etc.

They often get bigger fines and sentences than rapists, thieves and robbers.


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Didn't they tear-gas and rubber-bullet one of the occupy camps in America last night, too? Far too heavy-handed.


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I met the leader of the Occupy Chicago movement last Friday night. He is a PhD student at Depaul. He presented a paper the first day of the conference and I talked to him and he got his Master's where I am currently at. The next night we were at this party and he was running around on the phone like crazy. Apparently he was talking to these labor organizers trying to get people out and participating. I guess Chicago doesn't give out permits for public spaces and they're only offering them permits which end early on in the night at 8 or 9. The goal was to get enough people to create a presence which the cops couldn't bring in. The trick is that the first time you're arrested, you're out the next day but the second time, they begin fining you and keeping you in longer. Hence the need to constantly bring more and more people into the fold. His first-hand account combined with riding the bus past Occupy Philly daily made me kinda impressed regardless of what results it has.

All I know about what resulted on Saturday is 130 or so arrests. Don't know about violence or anything.

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