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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:29 pm 
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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
I dunno, if there's an album I like from a genre, I usually don't really say I hate that genre.


Me too.

Don't much care for funeral doom or black metal or power metal but they also don't have any albums I love.


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noodles wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
I dunno, if there's an album I like from a genre, I usually don't really say I hate that genre.


Me too.

Don't much care for funeral doom or black metal or power metal but they also don't have any albums I love.
Weakling? Krallice?I figured you'd mention them.


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Thrash: Megadeth--Rust in Peace
Doom: Electric Wizard--Dopthrone (could this be doom or is it stoner?)

Yeah, this thread makes me realize how much metal there is I don't like. I'm pretty much down to heavy metal, metalcore, sludgey stuff, and a little death.


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traptunderice wrote:
noodles wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
I dunno, if there's an album I like from a genre, I usually don't really say I hate that genre.


Me too.

Don't much care for funeral doom or black metal or power metal but they also don't have any albums I love.
Weakling? Krallice?I figured you'd mention them.


I like them and a couple other black metal bands but definitely wouldn't consider them favourites.


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heatseeker wrote:
Yeah, this thread makes me realize how much metal there is I don't like. I'm pretty much down to heavy metal, metalcore, sludgey stuff, and a little death.


I don't think you should be expected to like every metal band and every metal genre.

Liking music is not objective. It's subjective and in particular it's emotional on a subconscious level.

Defining one self as a Metalhead or Country fan or whatever and then trying to like every single band/singer in that genre leads to a lot of unpleasurable listening.


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heatseeker wrote:
Thrash: Megadeth--Rust in Peace
Doom: Electric Wizard--Dopthrone (could this be doom or is it stoner?)

Yeah, this thread makes me realize how much metal there is I don't like. I'm pretty much down to heavy metal, metalcore, sludgey stuff, and a little death.


I think I hate you.


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
Thrash: Megadeth--Rust in Peace
Doom: Electric Wizard--Dopthrone (could this be doom or is it stoner?)

Yeah, this thread makes me realize how much metal there is I don't like. I'm pretty much down to heavy metal, metalcore, sludgey stuff, and a little death.


I think I hate you.


+1


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I never really understood the appeal of stoner rock or metal, but there are definitely some quality bands out there.


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The only metal genre I think is an abomination is power metal, but I love that Blind Guardian album with that song that goes

Loooook behind the mirror,
I'm lost in te Twilight Hall
Once I'll be back something something something
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rio wrote:
The only metal genre I think is an abomination is power metal, but I love that Blind Guardian album with that song that goes

Loooook behind the mirror,
I'm lost in te Twilight Hall
Once I'll be back something something something
And the mirror something something


Tales from the Twilight World :wink:


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That's it! Cracking stuff.


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I think power metal takes an appreciation for non-metal that a lot of metal fans don't have.

When the guitarist for your band sits around listening to synth pop all day and writes with those melodies in mind, you aren't really gonna draw the fandom of a lot of these guys that listen to brutalv thrash exclusively and have a shitty attitude about music in general. People that think Duran Duran are homosexuals when they sleep with women and happen to make pop records.

So I get the power metal thing.

Me, I don't like music with no sense of melody or any attempt at all to spead them out over a diverse frequency range. Bands like Six feet under must be under the impression that the majority of the listeners of music only concentrate on the 20-2000Hz range and anything else that is not an overtone is for pussies or weaklings that listen to all that "gay" pop music with the 10th octave keyboard overdubs.

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Adveser wrote:
these guys that listen to brutalv thrash exclusively and have a shitty attitude about music in general. People that think Duran Duran are homosexuals when they sleep with women and happen to make pop records.

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anything else that is not an overtone is for pussies or weaklings that listen to all that "gay" pop music with the 10th octave keyboard overdubs.
God, you're an elitist fuck.

:wub: Rio likes the same power metal as me.


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Pffft Power Metal is King, you guys just havent heard the good stuff, there is no real reason for liking Heavy Metal and not liking Power Metal.


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The_Voice wrote:
Pffft Power Metal is King, you guys just havent heard the good stuff, there is no real reason for liking Heavy Metal and not liking Power Metal.



I know, right. That never made sense to me.


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There is nothing to recommend most power metal. The Voice, I see your point but IMO for the most part (with some major exceptions) PM is like classic heavy metal- great tunes, great musicianship, but completely suffocated in sugar so that any sense of aggression, edginess, danger etc. is drained out of it.

Of course- this was my impression of power metal and as a result I've steered clear of it. So, if there's something I'm missing please make some suggestions and if I dig it I'll happily retract the above.

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I think power metal takes an appreciation for non-metal that a lot of metal fans don't have.

When the guitarist for your band sits around listening to synth pop all day and writes with those melodies in mind, you aren't really gonna draw the fandom of a lot of these guys that listen to brutalv thrash exclusively and have a shitty attitude about music in general. People that think Duran Duran are homosexuals when they sleep with women and happen to make pop records.

So I get the power metal thing.

Me, I don't like music with no sense of melody or any attempt at all to spead them out over a diverse frequency range. Bands like Six feet under must be under the impression that the majority of the listeners of music only concentrate on the 20-2000Hz range and anything else that is not an overtone is for pussies or weaklings that listen to all that "gay" pop music with the 10th octave keyboard overdubs.


Lawks, Adveser you do talk some bollocks sometimes.

If by "an appreciation for non-metal" you mean exclusively an appreciation for cheese-pop or soft rock, then point taken but that just makes me think PM sucks even more.

But in my experience, the greater your affinity for non-metal genres, the less credible power metal seems. There is a particular kind of craftsmanship and energy in good extreme (black, death, heavier end of thrash) metal that no other type of music can really channel. This is why of all the jazz musos I know the metal bands that have impressed them the most (if any do) are the ones like Napalm Death or Nile. Power metal, on the other hand, is basically wannabe pop music- metal designed not to shock or provoke or challenge but simply to fit right in on the Eurovision song contest.


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The_Voice wrote:
there is no real reason for liking Heavy Metal and not liking Power Metal.
Besides the fact that heavy metal is PM without the cheese? I love Angel Witch, Judas Priest, Slough Feg but have no desire whatsoever to listen to the dragons and fairies of Rhapsody or Blind Guardian or whatever the hell passes for PM these days. Cage - Hell Destroyer is pretty solid though now that I think about it but it's basically a rip-off of Painkiller with PM trimmings.


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Not all PM is cheesy.


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Power Metal like Epica or Sonata Arctica or Kamelot is simply beautiful with an underlying element of aggression. Beautiful in a way which no other metal can be. You won't find me singing along in my head, slightly mesmerized, in near emotional ecstasy, to something like Nile or Napalm Death, as good as they are.

Want to know the concert I've been to which proportionally was the loudest, most responsive, and had the most people singing along?

Hammerfall.


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rio wrote:
But in my experience, the greater your affinity for non-metal genres, the less credible power metal seems.


Yeah. I listen to Paramore and still think power metal is gay.

Although I actually love Kamelot. So they'd count for this thread!


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