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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:47 pm 
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god, do i hate it when bands with political thoughts make good music :evil: :roll:


luckily when Iced Earth get into politics (the Bush way :evil: ) their music sound like crap ! :twisted:


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luckily when Iced Earth get into politics (the Bush way ) their music sound like crap !

HAHA indeed!


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luckily when Iced Earth get into politics (the Bush way ) their music sound like crap !

HAHA indeed!


Hails to that Stefan!


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deathkvlt wrote:
Dago wrote:
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luckily when Iced Earth get into politics (the Bush way ) their music sound like crap !

HAHA indeed!


Hails to that Stefan!


Ditto to that.


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TGB wasn't that political. It did have a lot of historical stuff. Oh and it did have when the eagle cries which is a pro american song and since you guys hate america you would consider that super political. Loving your country must be a "Bush thing". One reason that album isn't liked as much as their others is that people can't handle something other than their own point of view when it comes to lyrics that are slightly political.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 5:46 pm 
I just said that song was crap, would the lyrics be
über-communists, that wouldn't change my mind... awful song :evil:


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The Immortal Emokid wrote:
I just said that song was crap, would the lyrics be
über-communists, that wouldn't change my mind... awful song :evil:


refresh my memory if i'm mistaken but isn't TGB a ALBUM(a very mediocre to bad one too :evil: )???


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:10 pm 
Fingon wrote:
The Immortal Emokid wrote:
I just said that song was crap, would the lyrics be
über-communists, that wouldn't change my mind... awful song :evil:


refresh my memory if i'm mistaken but isn't TGB a ALBUM(a very mediocre to bad one too :evil: )???


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Orion wrote:
TGB wasn't that political. It did have a lot of historical stuff. Oh and it did have when the eagle cries which is a pro american song and since you guys hate america you would consider that super political. Loving your country must be a "Bush thing". One reason that album isn't liked as much as their others is that people can't handle something other than their own point of view when it comes to lyrics that are slightly political.


ok Fingon ? :wink:


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The Immortal Emokid wrote:
Fingon wrote:
The Immortal Emokid wrote:
I just said that song was crap, would the lyrics be
über-communists, that wouldn't change my mind... awful song :evil:


refresh my memory if i'm mistaken but isn't TGB a ALBUM(a very mediocre to bad one too :evil: )???


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Orion wrote:
TGB wasn't that political. It did have a lot of historical stuff. Oh and it did have when the eagle cries which is a pro american song and since you guys hate america you would consider that super political. Loving your country must be a "Bush thing". One reason that album isn't liked as much as their others is that people can't handle something other than their own point of view when it comes to lyrics that are slightly political.


ok Fingon ? :wink:


meh, i still hold on to my argument(the bush way!) :wink:

nono,i rest my case


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Orion wrote:
TGB wasn't that political. It did have a lot of historical stuff. Oh and it did have when the eagle cries which is a pro american song and since you guys hate america you would consider that super political. Loving your country must be a "Bush thing". One reason that album isn't liked as much as their others is that people can't handle something other than their own point of view when it comes to lyrics that are slightly political.


Last time I checked, Bush was not the living incarnation of America. It's possible to love one's country and hate the leaders of said country.


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Orion wrote:
TGB wasn't that political. It did have a lot of historical stuff. Oh and it did have when the eagle cries which is a pro american song and since you guys hate america you would consider that super political. Loving your country must be a "Bush thing". One reason that album isn't liked as much as their others is that people can't handle something other than their own point of view when it comes to lyrics that are slightly political.


Last time I checked, Bush was not the living incarnation of America. It's possible to love one's country and hate the leaders of said country.


I don't believe he said anything about that? :?


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Carnifex Umbris wrote:
Orion wrote:
TGB wasn't that political. It did have a lot of historical stuff. Oh and it did have when the eagle cries which is a pro american song and since you guys hate america you would consider that super political. Loving your country must be a "Bush thing". One reason that album isn't liked as much as their others is that people can't handle something other than their own point of view when it comes to lyrics that are slightly political.


Last time I checked, Bush was not the living incarnation of America. It's possible to love one's country and hate the leaders of said country.



Well, last time i checked i did not say that Bush was the living incarnation of America or that you can't hate the leaders of ones country while still loving the country itself. The point i was making was that TGB was not a political album and that loving ones country ISN'T a "Bush Thing"( obviously you don't understand sarcasm). So next time you bother "checking" read the fucking post and pull your head out of your ass.


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 3:34 am 
System Of A Down are NOT nu-metal!! Please, tell me ONE band that sounds like System Of A Down? You can't! They're in a class of their own.

This new album is no way weak! None of their albums are really comparable. The band has grown and evolved over every album! This one is no different. It's in no way more commercial, it's essentially the same sort of mix of aggressiveness, melody, quirkiness and odd songwriting. The one thing that I think is a bit off on this album is the lyrics and that's because Daron wrote a lot of the lyrics this time and though it's not simply nonsense, he just doesn't have poetic flare that Serj has.

This album is awesome!


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System Of A Down are NOT nu-metal!! Please, tell me ONE band that sounds like System Of A Down? You can't! They're in a class of their own.

This new album is no way weak! None of their albums are really comparable. The band has grown and evolved over every album! This one is no different. It's in no way more commercial, it's essentially the same sort of mix of aggressiveness, melody, quirkiness and odd songwriting. The one thing that I think is a bit off on this album is the lyrics and that's because Daron wrote a lot of the lyrics this time and though it's not simply nonsense, he just doesn't have poetic flare that Serj has.

This album is awesome!


I agree i would not classify them as nu-metal. Although i think this album is their weakest to date.


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Orion wrote:
Carnifex Umbris wrote:
Orion wrote:
TGB wasn't that political. It did have a lot of historical stuff. Oh and it did have when the eagle cries which is a pro american song and since you guys hate america you would consider that super political. Loving your country must be a "Bush thing". One reason that album isn't liked as much as their others is that people can't handle something other than their own point of view when it comes to lyrics that are slightly political.


Last time I checked, Bush was not the living incarnation of America. It's possible to love one's country and hate the leaders of said country.



Well, last time i checked i did not say that Bush was the living incarnation of America or that you can't hate the leaders of ones country while still loving the country itself. The point i was making was that TGB was not a political album and that loving ones country ISN'T a "Bush Thing"( obviously you don't understand sarcasm). So next time you bother "checking" read the fucking post and pull your head out of your ass.


Sorry, dude, guess I missed the sarcasm. It really seemed as if you were saying that in order to be considered patriotic you had to support the president. My mistake.


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Orion wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
System Of A Down are NOT nu-metal!! Please, tell me ONE band that sounds like System Of A Down? You can't! They're in a class of their own.

This new album is no way weak! None of their albums are really comparable. The band has grown and evolved over every album! This one is no different. It's in no way more commercial, it's essentially the same sort of mix of aggressiveness, melody, quirkiness and odd songwriting. The one thing that I think is a bit off on this album is the lyrics and that's because Daron wrote a lot of the lyrics this time and though it's not simply nonsense, he just doesn't have poetic flare that Serj has.

This album is awesome!


I agree i would not classify them as nu-metal. Although i think this album is their weakest to date.


what would you call their genre then? New-nu-metal? it's not because they sound unique that they arent in a particular genre.
their are great differences in the genres, even in the sucky ones


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Teh lyrics to BYOB are just a huge rip-off of War Pigs.. usually SoaD's lyrics are interesting and original.. I loved the track which went, "Pushing little children with their fully automatics.. they like to push the weak around!" but there's nothing that matches it on Mesmerize.


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:26 pm 
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Teh lyrics to BYOB are just a huge rip-off of War Pigs.. usually SoaD's lyrics are interesting and original.. I loved the track which went, "Pushing little children with their fully automatics.. they like to push the weak around!" but there's nothing that matches it on Mesmerize.

Yeah, this time around Daron wrote 90% of the lyrics. Serj basically wrote the song "Question!" and Daron did everything else. This album is apparently very personal to him. Radio/Video comes off as cheesy lyrically, but it's apparently about his two best friends from when he was a kid, friends he hasn't seen since he was 10. That takes away from the cheesiness a bit. Old School Hollywood is about a celebrity baseball game Daron was involved in a few years ago where celebs like Tony Danza basically shunned him, and Lost In Hollywood is an extension of that song from a different perspective.

Daron just isn't the poet that Serj is, he's more straightforward and simple in his lyrical approach. Serj is better, but in the end the music and the way the lyrics are sung is what makes them so unique.

As for what genre they should be placed in, that I can't answer. When you think of a genre like power metal you can say band A sounds like band B and C and so on. With System Of A Down you can't do that, they defy categorization just like a band like Tool does. They're too much of everything and not enough of one thing to really be pigeonholed into a genre.


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lizardtail wrote:
Teh lyrics to BYOB are just a huge rip-off of War Pigs.. usually SoaD's lyrics are interesting and original.. I loved the track which went, "Pushing little children with their fully automatics.. they like to push the weak around!" but there's nothing that matches it on Mesmerize.


I believe that song is deer dance and yes it is very good.


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Carnifex Umbris wrote:
Orion wrote:
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Orion wrote:
TGB wasn't that political. It did have a lot of historical stuff. Oh and it did have when the eagle cries which is a pro american song and since you guys hate america you would consider that super political. Loving your country must be a "Bush thing". One reason that album isn't liked as much as their others is that people can't handle something other than their own point of view when it comes to lyrics that are slightly political.


Last time I checked, Bush was not the living incarnation of America. It's possible to love one's country and hate the leaders of said country.



Well, last time i checked i did not say that Bush was the living incarnation of America or that you can't hate the leaders of ones country while still loving the country itself. The point i was making was that TGB was not a political album and that loving ones country ISN'T a "Bush Thing"( obviously you don't understand sarcasm). So next time you bother "checking" read the fucking post and pull your head out of your ass.


Sorry, dude, guess I missed the sarcasm. It really seemed as if you were saying that in order to be considered patriotic you had to support the president. My mistake.



Well after reading this i feel bad. I got a little too carried away. Sorry for being a bit of a jerk.


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