Metal Reviews

Sort of strengthens his argument? It is his argument. He thinks that by buying the album it shows that he cares more about it which isn't the situation necessarily.


As for the second point, my foot was kinda in my mouth. I simply don't want a cd and to think that purchasing CDs is the only way to support a band or is even a legitimate way of supporting a band is dumb. I don't listen to the music in order to support the band I simply want to hear it. If I want to support a band I buy a shirt from their site or see them live where I'll buy a plethora of merch sometimes even their CD which they get a larger cut of as compared to if I had bought it had a record store or second hand, which is the more likely option.

You don't listen to music to support the band silly goose you listen to music because it's awesome and you buy music to support the band because the band made the awesome music.

For a start, we already established long ago that dl-ing is not "stealing", and keeping on referring to it as such makes you sound hysterical.

Secondly, saying that if you take something for free rather than valuing it, is logically absurd. I agree that for something to have value to you then you need to invest something in it. But that investment doesn't have to be a purely financial one. In fact, it's probably better if it isn't. I don't value the albums I own in accordance with how much I paid for them.

That's a good point. There's £15 disppointments in my collection right next to treasured £2 finds.

Because it's "naturally selfish and egotistical, unconcerned about the time and effort people put into their work." When a person steals something, the value is not placed on what he or she is stealing but on his or her personal wants and desires. If you truly value someone's work, you pay for it, you support that artist.


Apparently you didn't look up the definition of commodity. Shocking. You're acting as if it has one meaning.

And for the record, under your silly misguided theory, an MP3 is no different than a CD.

This is flat out wrong. Downloading is stealing. Only downloaders insist it's not.


What you're suggesting is a selfish endeavor. I have no doubt that Noodles loves his stolen music. To suggest, however, that a person who steals something places the same value on it as someone who actually has to sacrifice something of their own to acquire it is what is logically absurd.

I love how I'm the one against downloading.

Nah. It's not "flat out" anything, because there is a massive legal grey area aroung the whole thing. Theft is usually defined as taking something with the intent to permanently deprive its owner with the use of it. From wiki:



Downloading is copyright infringement. It may sound like an irrelevant disctinction, but two points:

1. I don't know about the US, but in the UK copyright infringement, if it is for an individual's own entertainment, is a civil rather than criminal offence.

2. More importantly, it means that you going on about "stealing" and all that crap is not just innacurate, but pointlessly inflammatory and unjustifiably "holier than thou". You're deliberately using language which enables you to sit in judgement on people using the most hyperbolic terminology possible. Even if it doesn't clearly apply.



How so? If I steal an apple (ignoring the erroneous comparison, because dling is not stealing), do I value that apple any less than had I paid money for it? Maybe, maybe not, but you have no possible way of knowing for sure, and the fact that I stole it is by no means an indication that I don't value it. If I get into a gig free because I know the venue owner, does that mean that I will necessarily enjoy the gig less than someone who paid full price?

Now, it might well be true that buying as opposed to dling something is an indication that you value it more, but that's not the same thing.

As a matter of fact, I do see your point and agree with bits of it. Yes, having 1000 albums available for free at the touch of a button is likely to make someone value music less. But I don't think you're in a position to go round telling people how much they personally do or do not value something, based on whether they paid for it or not.

Canada's supreme court must download a lot lol

imo everyone should have a chip implanted into their brain that charges their credit card based on how often they listen to albums and how much they enjoy them