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Who will/would you pick?
Obama 74%  74%  [ 29 ]
Hilary 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
McCain 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
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If he is not guilty, then obviously he should be freed; but if he was even a small player, he should have been put to death. He was released on grounds of "compassion", not as the result of an appeal. He was greeted as a hero in Libya. If he is guilty, that is a travesty of justice; those people aboard that plane had nothing to do with whatever his motives were, and probably had never even heard about them.


given that he isn't guilty and couldn't possibly be guilty, then this entire section is moot.

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I have no doubt that the CIA is so dirty that they make the KGB look like Boy Scouts, but at what point do you feel that civilians that have nothing to do with governmental affairs should be targets? Don't tell me "we are all accomplices" because you know as well as I do that the government is untouchable by the civilian population.


Of course I am aware of that. The individuals who have actual influence in governmental affairs are few and far between and there were probably very few, if any of them in the Twin Towers that day. My point was that the government of this country has been acting in such a way that invites armed response for a very long time, and to redouble the act in the face of armed response makes absolutely no sense, and continues to invite such armed response.

My point was that the things America has done are far worse than anything Al-Qaeda can lay claim to and the response from Al-Qaeda, while hardly morally justifiable in light of the civilians that were killed by it, is hardly unexpected when you consider American policy in the Middle East and towards Arabs.

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So, since it (9/11) was a non-state entity that attacked a civilian target, would it be more acceptable if civilian mobs armed with shotguns, baseball bats etc took their "pound of flesh" out of the local Afghan / Saudi / muslim populace after it was discovered that the perpetrators were Saudi and tied to the Afgahnistan Taliban?
Eye for an eye.


Amusingly enough that would have killed far less people than the War On Terror has thus far and probably would have inspired ultimately less radical Salafi/Twelver fundamentalists around the world to start/ramp up the insurgencies.

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What are your thoughts on Timothy McVeigh?


libertarian wacko who took it upon himself to kill a few fingernails of the state.


Interesting.


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What's that mean?


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What's that mean?


It means, I see nothing productive coming from this discussion.
It's like a one armed man in a row-boat.


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DM, what do you mean by he 'couldn't possibly be guilty'?


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DM, what do you mean by he 'couldn't possibly be guilty'?


The prosecution's case was built on one coached witness and some circumstantial evidence; he was a clear scapegoat and couldn't possibly be guilty.

If you hold on for even a second to the idea that 'well, if he is guilty, then...' then you are clinging to the sort of nationalism that divides us in the first place.


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The trial might have been a shit, but that doesn't mean that there is no possibility at all that he did it.

Oh, and releasing him early had nothing to do with his guilt, just that he was dying, and either way sending him back to Libya rather than to a less intense prison was totally political, whether you believe it to be Brown brown-nosing or the Scots telling America to feck off.


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The trial might have been a shit, but that doesn't mean that there is no possibility at all that he did it.


Okay then, it's also possible that you participated in the London bus bombings. Here's some evidence I made up and a reliable eyewitness I coached until he echoed my sentiments. Go to jail for 28 years.

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Oh, and releasing him early had nothing to do with his guilt, just that he was dying, and either way sending him back to Libya rather than to a less intense prison was totally political, whether you believe it to be Brown brown-nosing or the Scots telling America to feck off.


I'm aware of this. I wouldn't expect Western governments to admit their guilt.

Oh, and cry, that one armed man sure will be building his arm muscles, if you know what I mean. The discussion isn't entirely pointless.


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I'm not a Muslim, there's no way I'd be suspected of anything like that.


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Yeah but there are pictures of you with a beard on the internet and that clearly demonstrates intent to commit muslimtrocities in the name of Allah.


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It's not like I ever took the Koran out of the library or anytHOLY SHIT!


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It's not like I ever took the Koran out of the library or anytHOLY SHIT!

You should, now that it's on a comfortable to reach and politically correct shelf. Yeah, I did burst out in laughter when I read that article a few months ago. Britain is turning into a joke.


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Yeah but there are pictures of you with a beard on the internet


lol


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Kennedy hung on for a while, didn't he? RIP. America: in mourning, or too busy boycotting Scotland (lol)?


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They've probably forgotten about Scotland now, the rabble's died down lol.


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http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... hind&hl=en

Watching this right now. One of the best put arguments for marijuana legalization that I've seen.


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http://cbs4.com/national/bernard.madoff ... 41398.html

But, wait...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... eheadlines

Nice try, yer scum, yer.


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He looks healthier in the "Dying of Cancer" article picture haha.


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So now Gheddafi wants to dismantle Switzerland. Douche.

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guy likes the spotlight. I don't blame him; he's probably trying to draw attention to recent African Union declarations that nobody is caring about.

sides, why should you care? not like he's going to be able to do it.


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Dead Machine wrote:
guy likes the spotlight. I don't blame him; he's probably trying to draw attention to recent African Union declarations that nobody is caring about.

sides, why should you care? not like he's going to be able to do it.


I'm still pissed off with our president for capitulating and apologizing. Whimp.

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