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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:37 am 
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Thrashtilldeth wrote:
So what exactly are we saying is the difference between influence and rip off, here?

If ripping off someone is taking a riff knowingly, and being influenced is taking a riff subconsciously because the music is ingrained in them....well...

Not much difference.


I suppose you could say that, for example, Dream Theater were influenced by Rush, but they have that song where they ripped Muse off. One's much clearer than the other.


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DeathScream\m/ wrote:
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I wasn't really calling them influential, but all the mentions of Nile and Suffocation (who aren't really influential either) made me wonder where the Norse gods of metal were at.


Suffocation aren't influential?

:huh:


More like ripped off a lot instead of influential. I never see them get the credit they deserve. Most of it tends to swing toward Obituary.


Suffocation ripped no one off. Their sound is unique and they sound like no one else that came before them.
I hate all of those Suffocation clones though.


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what I like about Suffocation is they are that fusion of brutality and technicality lacking in a lot of the bands they have influenced today. They can till the line without being pretentious with shitty n00dling solos and odd time signatures and they aren't 0v3rbr00tal with slams and breakdowns like their deathcore sons are. They are perfect death metal


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I'd say the most influential new death metal bands are

Necrophagist, Nile, Arsis, Anata, Decapitated and Martyr to some extent.


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Anata are fucking ace and so are Decapitated yet two bands influenced by the loins of Suffocation that are brutal and yet they dont spoil their music with noodling.
I forgot about Anata
FUCK DOH


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Indeed. Everything good about death metal spawned from 3 great bands IMO:
Immolation, Suffocation and Death


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Dago wrote:
Indeed. Everything good about death metal spawned from 3 great bands IMO:
Immolation, Suffocation and Death


you guys are really hitting some of my favorite bands on my head tonight. Ive been looking for Immolation merch for like the last week, and I seriously can't find any shirts by them at all. If any of you have one lying around or know of a site where I can buy one (excluding Ebay, did you hear about that 300$ one :omfg:) Ill take them.


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I think you are gonna find more stuff soon since they signed to Nuclear Blast.


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hopefully. I remember when Immolation toured with Rotting Christ and Averse Sefira I was a junior in high school and I wanted to see them both so bad. I wish i knew how to drive then.
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stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DeathScream\m/ wrote:
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More like THEY WERE ripped off a lot instead of influential. I never see them get the credit they deserve. Most of it tends to swing toward Obituary.




Fixed for comprehension purposes.



AH! Still disagree. Lots of bands ripped Suffo off, but they are a giant in the Death Metal world despite that. Besides, who says that 'ripping off' isn't 'being influenced by'? Works for all these Thrash bands.


Bitch!


edit: Fail


Wait, who failed, you or me? I'm confused.


its ok Devoted, Goat still loves you


Nobody loves me. That's why I call people bad names over the internet.


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DeathScream\m/ wrote:
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More like THEY WERE ripped off a lot instead of influential. I never see them get the credit they deserve. Most of it tends to swing toward Obituary.




Fixed for comprehension purposes.



AH! Still disagree. Lots of bands ripped Suffo off, but they are a giant in the Death Metal world despite that. Besides, who says that 'ripping off' isn't 'being influenced by'? Works for all these Thrash bands.


Bitch!


edit: Fail


Wait, who failed, you or me? I'm confused.


its ok Devoted, Goat still loves you


Nobody loves me. That's why I call people bad names over the internet.


Jesus loves you, my
Child, turn to him and all your
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its ok Devoted, I would be fucked up in the head if I liked Megadeth too.
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stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
its ok Devoted, I would be fucked up in the head if I liked Megadeth too.
:wink:


Not. Even. Funny.


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Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DeathScream\m/ wrote:
Quote:
More like THEY WERE ripped off a lot instead of influential. I never see them get the credit they deserve. Most of it tends to swing toward Obituary.




Fixed for comprehension purposes.



AH! Still disagree. Lots of bands ripped Suffo off, but they are a giant in the Death Metal world despite that. Besides, who says that 'ripping off' isn't 'being influenced by'? Works for all these Thrash bands.


Bitch!


edit: Fail


Wait, who failed, you or me? I'm confused.


its ok Devoted, Goat still loves you


Nobody loves me. That's why I call people bad names over the internet.


Jesus loves you, my
Child, turn to him and all your
Sins will wash away.


Jesus loves me, he loves me a bunch. Because he always puts Skippy in my lunch.


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Nile are unbelieveable. I can't see how a DM fan would dislike them...


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