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Ouch! He's too talented to wither away in a pop metal band, a second rate one at that.

Maybe Daniel Heiman is trying to experience the emotional roller coaster of pissing off all the true metal fans by selling out, only to then, years later, roar back into the scene with a killer Lost Horizon comeback album. Thus fulfilling his destiny of metal redemption and reclaiming the fans' admiration.

What ever helps me sleep at night right? :unsure:


Well remember when Rob Halford did Two and than came back with Halford that lead to the reunion with Judas Priest.

I'm hoping that Heiman does the same thing.


Except Two was actually a good album and it was understandable that, after so many years in metal, Rob needed to try something a tad different. And, anyway, Two wasn't the sell-out this whoring suckfest is.


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FUCK! I don't know if I'd really want him back in Lost Horizon. Part of the Lost Horizon experience for me is believing their overblown ultra-metal rhetoric actually MEANS something to them. This is borderline fucking insulting.


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MetalStorm wrote:
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Ouch! He's too talented to wither away in a pop metal band, a second rate one at that.

Maybe Daniel Heiman is trying to experience the emotional roller coaster of pissing off all the true metal fans by selling out, only to then, years later, roar back into the scene with a killer Lost Horizon comeback album. Thus fulfilling his destiny of metal redemption and reclaiming the fans' admiration.

What ever helps me sleep at night right? :unsure:


Well remember when Rob Halford did Two and than came back with Halford that lead to the reunion with Judas Priest.

I'm hoping that Heiman does the same thing.


Yeah I had Halford somewhat in mind actually. Although, I've never actually heard Two, I am familiar with the all the venom he received from the metal community which resulted from that release. Fight wasn't bad though, a project of his I need to explore more.


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Ouch! He's too talented to wither away in a pop metal band, a second rate one at that.

Maybe Daniel Heiman is trying to experience the emotional roller coaster of pissing off all the true metal fans by selling out, only to then, years later, roar back into the scene with a killer Lost Horizon comeback album. Thus fulfilling his destiny of metal redemption and reclaiming the fans' admiration.

What ever helps me sleep at night right? :unsure:


Well remember when Rob Halford did Two and than came back with Halford that lead to the reunion with Judas Priest.

I'm hoping that Heiman does the same thing.


Yeah I had Halford somewhat in mind actually. Although, I've never actually heard Two, I am familiar with the all the venom he received from the metal community which resulted from that release. Fight wasn't bad though, a project of his I need to explore more.


Fight was very good but Two was awful unless you like industrial metal like NIN.


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MetalStorm wrote:
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Ouch! He's too talented to wither away in a pop metal band, a second rate one at that.

Maybe Daniel Heiman is trying to experience the emotional roller coaster of pissing off all the true metal fans by selling out, only to then, years later, roar back into the scene with a killer Lost Horizon comeback album. Thus fulfilling his destiny of metal redemption and reclaiming the fans' admiration.

What ever helps me sleep at night right? :unsure:


Well remember when Rob Halford did Two and than came back with Halford that lead to the reunion with Judas Priest.

I'm hoping that Heiman does the same thing.


Yeah I had Halford somewhat in mind actually. Although, I've never actually heard Two, I am familiar with the all the venom he received from the metal community which resulted from that release. Fight wasn't bad though, a project of his I need to explore more.


Fight was very good but Two was awful unless you like industrial metal like NIN.

A tad more commercial I'd say... And good, indeed, regardless your liking for so-called industrial metal. Imo, that's the closest thing to Turbo (another underrated attempt) Halford did in his short-lived studio career.


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MetalStorm wrote:
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Ouch! He's too talented to wither away in a pop metal band, a second rate one at that.

Maybe Daniel Heiman is trying to experience the emotional roller coaster of pissing off all the true metal fans by selling out, only to then, years later, roar back into the scene with a killer Lost Horizon comeback album. Thus fulfilling his destiny of metal redemption and reclaiming the fans' admiration.

What ever helps me sleep at night right? :unsure:


Well remember when Rob Halford did Two and than came back with Halford that lead to the reunion with Judas Priest.

I'm hoping that Heiman does the same thing.


Yeah I had Halford somewhat in mind actually. Although, I've never actually heard Two, I am familiar with the all the venom he received from the metal community which resulted from that release. Fight wasn't bad though, a project of his I need to explore more.


Fight was very good but Two was awful unless you like industrial metal like NIN.

A tad more commercial I'd say... And good, indeed, regardless your liking for so-called industrial metal. Imo, that's the closest thing to Turbo (another underrated attempt) Halford did in his short-lived studio career.


I appreciate that you like Two but in my opinion it was an abomination and Halford was way out of his element. It was like him spitting on the fans that have followed Judas Priest for almost 2 decades. When you have the voice that labels you the Metal God and have been keeping people banging their heads for so long than all of the sudden abandon your roots and create a crapfest (and again my opinion)than it seems like a disgrace for not only the Priest fans but even for Rob.

Thank heavens he listened to the fans who were screaming at him to go back to metal and thus Halford was born which in turn lead him back to the Priest where he belongs.


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MetalStorm wrote:
Lucifer's Son wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Kuruus wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Kuruus wrote:
Ouch! He's too talented to wither away in a pop metal band, a second rate one at that.

Maybe Daniel Heiman is trying to experience the emotional roller coaster of pissing off all the true metal fans by selling out, only to then, years later, roar back into the scene with a killer Lost Horizon comeback album. Thus fulfilling his destiny of metal redemption and reclaiming the fans' admiration.

What ever helps me sleep at night right? :unsure:


Well remember when Rob Halford did Two and than came back with Halford that lead to the reunion with Judas Priest.

I'm hoping that Heiman does the same thing.


Yeah I had Halford somewhat in mind actually. Although, I've never actually heard Two, I am familiar with the all the venom he received from the metal community which resulted from that release. Fight wasn't bad though, a project of his I need to explore more.


Fight was very good but Two was awful unless you like industrial metal like NIN.

A tad more commercial I'd say... And good, indeed, regardless your liking for so-called industrial metal. Imo, that's the closest thing to Turbo (another underrated attempt) Halford did in his short-lived studio career.


I appreciate that you like Two but in my opinion it was an abomination and Halford was way out of his element. It was like him spitting on the fans that have followed Judas Priest for almost 2 decades. When you have the voice that labels you the Metal God and have been keeping people banging their heads for so long than all of the sudden abandon your roots and create a crapfest (and again my opinion)than it seems like a disgrace for not only the Priest fans but even for Rob.

Thank heavens he listened to the fans who were screaming at him to go back to metal and thus Halford was born which in turn lead him back to the Priest where he belongs.


So, what you're saying is that, because he is Rob Halford, this album is a disgrace...
I honestly think it's a little silly... He wanted to try something different, he did it and with class and talent.
I don't care if an artist "sells out" (which I don't think he did with Two) as long as it remains an honest and quality work.


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Crap.


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Jesus, Heed was heading in the wrong direction, but this.....why'd ya do it, Danny? Why'd you make me cry? :sad:


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Jesus, Heed was heading in the wrong direction, but this.....why'd ya do it, Danny? Why'd you make me cry? :sad:


LOL that's probably their new theme now making people cry :lol:


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Not sure what the big deal is. A man has to make some money. Can't bitch about people "selling out" in this day and age when all their shit is stolen. How many people in this thread actually own a physical copy of the Lost Horizon albums?

If people supported bands the right way these days, they'd stick with them because they'd be money-makers. These musicians doing country albums and pop albums and...dance-pop-hip-hop-whateverthefuck (talking to you, Cornell) are doing so because it's the only way they can survive. They could go work at Arby's and "keep it real," but that's fucking stupid.


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Not sure what the big deal is. A man has to make some money. Can't bitch about people "selling out" in this day and age when all their shit is stolen. How many in this thread actually own a physical copy of the Lost Horizon albums?

If people supported bands the right way these days, they'd stick with them because they'd be money-makers. These musicians doing country albums and pop albums and...dance-pop-hip-hop-whateverthefuck (talking to you, Cornell) are doing so because it's the only way they can survive. They could go work at Arby's and "keep it real," but that's fucking stupid.


Right here and how is he going to support himself with this stink bomb of a band he's formed huh?


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MetalStorm wrote:
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Not sure what the big deal is. A man has to make some money. Can't bitch about people "selling out" in this day and age when all their shit is stolen. How many in this thread actually own a physical copy of the Lost Horizon albums?

If people supported bands the right way these days, they'd stick with them because they'd be money-makers. These musicians doing country albums and pop albums and...dance-pop-hip-hop-whateverthefuck (talking to you, Cornell) are doing so because it's the only way they can survive. They could go work at Arby's and "keep it real," but that's fucking stupid.


Right here and how is he going to support himself with this stink bomb of a band he's formed huh?


It's catchy and it'll sell. Most people aren't worried about being "true".

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MetalStorm wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Not sure what the big deal is. A man has to make some money. Can't bitch about people "selling out" in this day and age when all their shit is stolen. How many in this thread actually own a physical copy of the Lost Horizon albums?

If people supported bands the right way these days, they'd stick with them because they'd be money-makers. These musicians doing country albums and pop albums and...dance-pop-hip-hop-whateverthefuck (talking to you, Cornell) are doing so because it's the only way they can survive. They could go work at Arby's and "keep it real," but that's fucking stupid.


Right here and how is he going to support himself with this stink bomb of a band he's formed huh?


It's catchy and it'll sell. Most people aren't worried about being "true".


Catchy :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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MetalStorm wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
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Not sure what the big deal is. A man has to make some money. Can't bitch about people "selling out" in this day and age when all their shit is stolen. How many in this thread actually own a physical copy of the Lost Horizon albums?

If people supported bands the right way these days, they'd stick with them because they'd be money-makers. These musicians doing country albums and pop albums and...dance-pop-hip-hop-whateverthefuck (talking to you, Cornell) are doing so because it's the only way they can survive. They could go work at Arby's and "keep it real," but that's fucking stupid.


Right here and how is he going to support himself with this stink bomb of a band he's formed huh?


It's catchy and it'll sell. Most people aren't worried about being "true".


Catchy :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: y :lol: u :lol: p :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lots of smilies can't hide the truth!


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Satan's Anus wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Not sure what the big deal is. A man has to make some money. Can't bitch about people "selling out" in this day and age when all their shit is stolen. How many in this thread actually own a physical copy of the Lost Horizon albums?

If people supported bands the right way these days, they'd stick with them because they'd be money-makers. These musicians doing country albums and pop albums and...dance-pop-hip-hop-whateverthefuck (talking to you, Cornell) are doing so because it's the only way they can survive. They could go work at Arby's and "keep it real," but that's fucking stupid.


Right here and how is he going to support himself with this stink bomb of a band he's formed huh?


It's catchy and it'll sell. Most people aren't worried about being "true".


Catchy :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: y :lol: u :lol: p :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lots of smilies can't hide the truth!


Yeah you're right Ken he's following the same formula as a lot of the 80's bands did when grunge hit and the same formula being used today when some of those same bands are modernizing their sound.

Yep he's going to make millions and millions and millions of dollars :rolleyes:


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It's not really catchy to these ears. It basically just enters one ear and goes out the other, but the process is an unpleasant experience.


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MetalStorm wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Not sure what the big deal is. A man has to make some money. Can't bitch about people "selling out" in this day and age when all their shit is stolen. How many in this thread actually own a physical copy of the Lost Horizon albums?

If people supported bands the right way these days, they'd stick with them because they'd be money-makers. These musicians doing country albums and pop albums and...dance-pop-hip-hop-whateverthefuck (talking to you, Cornell) are doing so because it's the only way they can survive. They could go work at Arby's and "keep it real," but that's fucking stupid.


Right here and how is he going to support himself with this stink bomb of a band he's formed huh?


It's catchy and it'll sell. Most people aren't worried about being "true".


Catchy :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: y :lol: u :lol: p :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Yeah you're right Ken he's following the same formula as a lot of the 80's bands did when grunge hit and the same formula being used today when some of those same bands are modernizing their sound.

Yep he's going to make millions and millions and millions of dollars :rolleyes:

Right, because that's what someone needs to raise a family and pay bills. :rolleyes: You need to put things into perspective. These guys do this shit for advances and (hopefully) royalties. A $10,000 advance is four or five months worth of work for the average person.

It has nothing to do with making millions. It's a simple matter of being able to eat.


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Fuck this. Lost Horizon is a million times more catchy to these ears... Seriously, people should look long to find a band with more hooks yet being so powerful as these guys, playing this kind of music.


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Let the man do what he pleases. Even if we despise it with all our hearts, we have nothing to do with it in the end. I see your point Ken, (I own both Lost Horizon btw), but I don't really think he's doing it for money, it seems more like he wants to try something new. As someone said, I don't know how much money there is to earn here.


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