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Meh. You can see that, say, Die By The Sword/Necrophiliac/Necrophobic/War Ensemble are all from the same band very easily, differences in production and how Araya sings are the basic differences.

I think, the guitar work is very different. On Show No Mercy you can still hear Diamond Head or Judas Priest riffs, while Hell Awaits contains most of the riffs, which were the base of the whole scandinavian Death and Black Metal scene.

Bullshit. They are all just Thrash.
I mean seriously, WTF?
There isn't any fucking "groove" to South of Heaven.
Show No Mercy has zero in common with Metallica.
Hell awaits has no Death metal riffs. Pure Thrash.
Reign In Blood is just really fast Thrash.

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THRASH.

Fixed it for you son.

Sure it's all thrash, but that's my point. It's still thrash, even though it sounds different.

And if you don't hear differences between Show No Mercy and e.g. Reign in Blood or Hell Awaits, you should wash your ears.

Or just compare Kill em All with Master of Puppets. Both thrash, but different style.

Or compare Slayer with Metallica in general. Or Megadeth with Antrax. Or Metallica with Megadeth. Or Kreator with Megadeth. Or Sodom with Metallica. Or Dark Angel with Death Angel. It's all Thrash, but just not the same style...

But it's in nearly every rock and metal genre, that there are different ways to play. Compare Helloween with Iced Earth. Or Darkthrone with Emperor. Or Def Leppard with Guns n Roses.

Of course they sound different they're different albums asshole, so whats your point that different bands have different sound? yeah no shit thanks for bringing that out, so are you gonna start making genres for every different band out there? seriously just shut the fuck up, and no you dont have a point.

Is it necessary to trade insults just for every different opinion, you fuckinng assclown?

Ok, you say that we don't need to make a new genre for a band that's playing a different style? Then we could easily put Machine Head into the Thrash Metal genre. Game, set, match. Or in other words: quod erat demonstrandum. Thank you! (and now I have my point back, because that's what I mean. )

Let's try and keep this as civil as possible, shall we?

You know what im sorry for the insults, i guess i was just angry for other things and reading your post just got on my nerves.

That aside i still dont have a clue of what you are talking about, bands can sound different even if they play the same genre, you know why? because theyre different bands, thats no reason to start giving genres to every band out there that sounds different or you will end up with a lot of meaningless and useless labels dont you think?

I'd rather have Countdown to Extinction considered essential over Machine Head.

Fuck yeah Fuck Machine Head

1. It doesn't matter.

2. I think it all began when someone mentioned that e.g. Machine Head are not Thrash Metal. And then I wrote that their style is here called Neo Thrash (aka Groove Metal), which discribes bands like Pantera, Fear Factory, Machine Head, Soulfly, Prong and so on. And then, someone said that there is only thrash or crap. And then I said that even Slayer haven't got a consistent sound and style. And then you said that they have a different style, because they are different albums (and Bands) but then, what about Machine Head? Or Trivium? It's just all a different style of Thrash...

Why do I get the feeling we've been down this road before?

And the circle continues...

If a Machine Head album going to be on a thrash list, then Cowboys From Hell has to be on the list. Its has more pure thrash than any machine head album.

oh come on people. Youre ears aren't musically experienced or sharp, or youre just don't really pay too much attention to riffing, if you can' tell the difference between Show No Mercy and Reign in Blood. I consider groove to be an evolution of thrash. To me there are four huge evolutionary thrash groups.
Old School, Groove, Modern, and Revival.
Whithin the four groups, you got the regional styles of thrash. Then you break it down even more. You get bands that are even heavier or lighter, then whats the usual norm for that particular scene. You might have a death-like thrash, or blackend thrash, punky crossover thrash. Then you break it down farther. Just listen to the guitar tone. Pay attention to the drumming. Try to find the bass among the madness of the other instruments. Pay attention to small details. Something as simple as a note could be the difference between two bands.

And this is a good thing... because?

do you want your band to sound unique or sound generic?

Nah, you miss the point. Thrash bands all sounding the same is why people get bored with them. More than one note's difference, pls!

Well if you can't tell the difference between riffs, try vocals.

Metallica vs Testament. Both debuts have the same kind of riffs, but the vocals aren't exactly the same, but different in some aspects. James Hetfield, to me, has a street punk voice. Too harsh to be punk but still very hardcorish. Chuck Billy has a gruffer voice. James yells, but Chuck shrieks. Now compare Chuck Billy shrieks to Tom Araya shrieks. Tom on Reign in Blood has operatic shrieks. They start out almost Halford like, then crashes down hard. Like the shriek on Angel of Death. He holds that note for a good 6 to 8 seconds. Chuck has quick mid range shrieks. Not has high as tom and no where near as long.
or Paul Baloff. On Bonded By Blood, he sounds like hes singing through a megaphone, like hes an announcer for nascar or a rodeo.

I'm not on about the old-school so much as the new school. Obviously Araya, Angelripper and Hetfield are going to sound different, DUH. But Thrash is such a incestouous genre as a whole, you listen to a few bands, you're heard the best. Unlike Death, Black, Prog, etc.