Fatpom wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
The concencus though is that in general the average Metal song is 4-5 minutes long and I was comparing the common repetitions
found in those to Metallica's 9 minute long repetitive non progressive approach. Obviously 9 minutes is too long for a Metallica song if they are going to have so much repetition.
my point is you'll tire lot more of a 9 minute repetitive song than a 4-5 minute one.
I don't mean to be a jerk (it just comes naturally) But I think you are talking completely out of your ass. So far up your ass in fact, you're getting a sore throat.
There's not more repetition of riffs in these songs than there is in the average song of similar length and type, which is what matters. Unless you're saying you just don't like songs longer than 5 minutes, in which case can I come in here and whinge that if the songs were only 3 minutes long there would be even LESS repetition of riffs? That would be pretty silly don't you think?
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It's not like a...song that varies, shift tempos ect... which limits repetition and makes things a lot more interesting.
Actually, I think it is. Thats a way I would describe most of these songs. I think they change it up at mostly all the right times.
At the end of the day, if you like the riffs, you want them to be repeated. If you don't, you don't. Just say you don't like the riffs and be done with it.
Because this is not more repetitive than most of this bands 80's output that is held in such high esteem. So if its a criticism of this album, its should be a criticism of their career essentially, are you making such a claim?
You don't mean to be a jerk?! What the hell are you talking about... you are one !
Let's look at the numbers here:
Kill em All : 1 song over 7 minutes
Ride the Lightning: 1 song over 7 minutes
Master : 3 songs over 7 minutes
And Justice : 4 songs over 7 minutes
Death Magnetic: 7 fucking songs over 7 minutes on a total of 10 thats 70% percent of the songs if you know how to calculate.
So yeah Death Magnetic has a crazy amount of repetition due to the sheer length of the bulk of songs on the album. Like mentioned before the fact that some of the riffs seem tacked on one after another makes the flow of some of the songs mediocre at best which makes the repetitions seem worse. And no the riffs are not varied enough, and they don't even have variants (riffs derived from a main riff) to make it less repetitive. Take the instrumental for example, same riff repeated over and over especially towards the end with little or no variation at all.
Now if you don't agree with my opinion fine, but you don't have to be so fucking rude and arrogant about it. If you can't argue in a civilized matter without sounding fucking condescending then abstain yourself from commenting you prick.