Metal Reviews

I always liked Megadeth - except on "The World Needs a Hero", even Risk is a good rock Album BUT, it's all relative. Compared to their 80s stuff, Albums like Youthanasia or TWNAH or Risk are boring mid-tempo heavy rockers . (But at least better than the Metallicas Load and Reload.)

BfMV are heavyer, faster and better than the Megadeth mid-90s stuff. Maybe some lyrics are a little bit cheesy, but the music is always good. And they are not trying to be something, that they are not. Megadeth, esp. Dave Mustain was never the guy for albums like Youthanasia or Risk - and he admitted it, that at this period the record labels were pushing them to the mainstream-pop Style. Just compare United Abominations to Youthanasia or Risk.

Bullshit. Go to any of these "old thrash" bands' gigs and ask anybody there if they like either of those bands.

BFMV are a clone of Trivium, which in turn is now a piss poor clone of Metallica and is responsible for some of the most boring, repetitive crap that is spewed by nearly every little fringe wearer who thinks they're "metal" cause they listen to them and has no idea what grindcore is even though they label their own bands as it.

Get the fuck out of this forum.

+1, any metalhead who has actually listened to actually awesome metal would not have time for Trivium, as well as the vast majority of metalcore. Trivium are a bunch of fags who'd like nothing more than to be Metallica groupies, and BFMV....., well you only have to actually listen to their emo wannabe-tough bullshit, oh and check out the horrible, horrible video for Waking the Demon, made me fucking cringe.

After listening to the likes of Celtic Frost, Mayhem, Morbid Angel, Opeth, Candlemass, Emperor, Cynic and Dark Tranquillity, how can you listen to the kind of shit that keeps receiving Metal Hammer lip service?

I was going to go back and edit it to definitely afterwards but I couldn't be bothered and let it slide, assuming no one would use my orthography as an indication of musical expertise.

Ask people like Kirk Hammet who played concerts with a Trivium shirt...

Metallica are not a band who's members I would rely upon for good musical suggestions.

And BFMV have good riffs and song structures, even if the attitude is lame.

Because Trivium are making them more money by being crap soundalikes? OR OR OR! Maybe it was a promotional thing, he got paid to do it. Try again with a better comeback that has some decent fucking points.


Also, many apologies to the rest of the people on the forum. I am in a foul mood.

Don't judge metal bands by their music videos ( watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM4CDLmDx_Y ).

Maybe I'm not so ignorant and disregarding everything thats in the mainstream press. I only differ between I like and I don't. Or is Enter Sandman a bad song? Or War Ensemble, only it was played by MTV?

I think it's better when Bands are trying to play something what Metallica played in the 80s - and not what Metallica played in the late 90s. And The Crusade or Scream Aim Fire are more thrash than metalcore.

I'm not SO old but I know that in the early 80s Bands like Sodom and Hellhammer were laughed at and today they are the Old School Heroes. Wait 20 Years and Trivium are the Old School shit. ;)

But back to topic: Dragonforce are best, when they play ultrafast Power Metal - and why should they change to something, in which they are maybe not so good?

There are only a few bands who are good in every style. Dream Theater for example. They can play everything. But Bands like AC/DC or Motörhead shouldn't try to play Synthie Pop or Melodic Black Metal.

There were many Bands in the 80s who were Metallica clones. Listen to Testament. Every popular band creates followers which try to emulate them. Some do it good, some not. Or listen to Paradise Lost on Icon, which is very influenced by the Black Album. Darkthrone trying to play like Hellhammer, Celtic Frost, Venom and Bathory. Airbourne trying to be the new AC/DC. What's the difference, if they're good at?

This is easily one of the dumbest discussions we've had in this forum in a long time.

Speedyjx and SoulSociety, you have no right whatsoever to tell TheMetalWarrior316 to "get the fuck out of this forum" just because he likes some bands that aren't very popular in the metal community. Many regular posters on this forum like bands that are far less tr00 metal than Trivium and BMFV.

TMW316 has a point by the way, metalcore did bring back quite a lot of elements that mainstream metal hadn't seen since the 80's, such s guitar solos and technical musicianship. Good luck finding that in a huge majority of all nu-metal bands. Remove the image and emo vocals and only a moron would say that even the most commercial metalcore band wasn't metal.

I also agree with him about Dragonforce. A lot of power metal bands have tried to change their sound, and very few have managed to pull it off. If Dragonforce is doing what they want to do (and I have no reason to believe that they aren't) they should stick to that.

Not all metalcore is shit, just most of it, personally I like Chimaira for example, but I hate the bands that put in the gay emo vocals, which are the majority. It is rare that you find a metalcore band with quality clean vocals, such as Killswitch Engage. And even so these bands are very inferior to the other bands I posted.

Also, I like Dragonforce for a laugh and even though Ultra Beatdown is one of the worst album titles ever, as well as the cover art, I'm still going to check out the album.

If bands that are less tr00 than Trivium and BFMV are being discussed, you could only be referring to the likes of HIM and My Chemical Romance, which would be scary.

I pretty much agree with you. Notice that I didn't say anything about the quality of the aforementioned bands, I just commented on their "metal factor". I'm not a big fan of metalcore either. I actually find the emo vocals rather inoffensive, but I can't stress enough how much I loathe the hardcore shouting that many metalcore vocalist use. For example, I think Trivium is a talented band with potential, but the ridiculously forced, toneless screaming pretty much rendered "Ascendancy" unlistenable for me.

As for the "less tr00 metal than BFMV" bands, I was talking about bands that are popular but absolutely 0% metal (which I don't consider BFMV to be, although they have a lot of non-metal elements). Just stick around the forum for a while and you will find out. I don't want to blow anyone's cover [/i]

I see. So he's allowed his opinion, but we're not allowed ours. Nice.

As I said earlier, Trivium are responsible for swathes of bands who all sound and look exactly the same and are all getting ridiculous amounts of press for those two reasons alone. They were a flavour of the month and, to their credit, jumped ship when they saw it was going out of fashion. You mention that they brought back solos to the mainstream metal market, so all the bands who were doing it during the nu-metal phase are not to be allowed plaudits? Musicality? They all sound the same. Chords. Keys. Harmonies. All the same. And for removing the image and emo vocals, chances are we'd never hear about said bands as they don't have an easily marketable selling point. Nu-metal became so popular as they were the in thing at that period of time whilest solos were not.

This Metal Warrior's posts on this thread and the Iron Maiden one really irritate me to a degree that has caught me on a bad day, yet he is entitled to what he thinks whether I like it or not. But like fuck will I be put down for giving my own fucking opinion on the matter as well.



Generally, it's because they're bad at it. Testament now have their own thrash sound and are one of the standout bands of that subgenre, however PL's post Draconian Times albums pale in comparison to the earlier stuff, Airbourne lake AC/DC's edge, and Darkthrone are Darkthrone.

This thread has gotten stupid. Like what you fucking like. Simple as that. All this nonsense about bands sounding and looking the same is stupid. Go look in the fucking mirror; you (as in everyone on this forum) look like a million other people out there, and you act the same, think the same, talk the same. You are not unique.

Welcome to the Planet Earth!

Very few bands are unique, and I say that loosely because pretty much no band is truly unique. Stop looking at things that simply are not important. This is music, it's not some fashion contest on E! It's fucking music. If 20 bands sound identical, but have released albums with great music on it, fucking listen to it and enjoy it and shut the fuck up! Stop looking for shit you're not going to find.

If you dig it, LISTEN! If you don't dig it, shut up and find something you do. But stop telling people they're wrong for liking a band, because that's the only thing wrong about it.

Stop being faggots you faggots. It's just music. Metal must be the most visually varied genre of all. Black pants, black tee, long hair that's red, black, or blonde. Holy shit. You're unique!

i've never understood the "omg they brought back guitar solos" fetish. like... who cares? in the hands of a bad songwriter a guitar solo is no better and no less overdone (probably more overdone) than a breakdown, and in the hands of a good songwriter they can both be used well.

It's not about being unique. Back in the 80s there were a lot of thrash bands, with a lot of classic stuff being released. Any metalhead back then would be listening to a lot of thrash, but most of it was awesome. You can't compare someone who listens to a lot of thrash like Megadeth, Testament andSlayer to someone who listens to a lot of metalcore like BFMV, Trivium and As I Lay Dying.

And if I like Megadeth, Testament, Slayer AND Trivium and BVMV? By the way, I don't really like Bands like Killswitch Engage or As I Lay Dying or Heaven Shall Burn. Strange isn't it? And why? Because I'm actually don't like death-metal-emo-core, but I like Trivium or BfMV, because, they are more in the technical thrash area while Killswitch or Heaven Shall Burn and others are more in the melodic death metal direction, and I'm not the biggest melodic death metal fan.

I'm gonna be nice... Welcome to the forum mister.