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You know what Metallica should do? Release a kick ass album (they must try very very x1000 hard), and then call it quits.


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Anger) or albums that are far below their talent level(Load, ReLoad).


Their talent level at this point is pretty low. Ulrich has always been a mediocre drummer, James' voice has gone to shit, and when I saw them last year, Kirk couldn't keep up with his solos, and fucked up quite a bit. Add to that their absymal songwriting skills, and they're basically the definition of a washed up band.


Yeah. I REALLY believe they aren't PHISICALLY able to play quality metal anymore. It's not that they don't want to, they just CAN'T DO IT anymore.


I think it's because they know that they can release albums that are complete garbage and the name Metallica will guarantee multi-platinum sales.

"You know it's Sad But True!"


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/\ b/c they're a band, putting out music is what they do. I'm not reading much from the interview above (he barely said anything!) but I'll listen, and probably like, being one of the two people on the forum who thought St Anger was underrated.


Yeah, I've seen Some Kind of Monster. They are no longer a band. They are 3 men who hate one another, and a Bassist who is along for a ride on the money train. Once James sobered up he realized he hates Lars as much as everybody else does, Lars is completely out of touch with just about everything, and Kirk lives a distant existence from both of them. They brought the therapist in because they no longer know how to deal with one another anymore, and had to find a way to keep the "Metallica enterprise" going. That's not a band, nor does it show a passion for music. That's merely finding a way to make something work for the sole purpose of making money.

Jason Newstead summed it all up in his interview. Once the therapist came around he knew exactly what had gone wrong in the Metallica camp, the passion for music was no longer there. He said it had all become a farce, that Lars and James had become people he no longer knew, twisted parodies of their former selves.


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Does it matter WHY they're still acting as a unit? Whether they release albums for the fans or the money, they're still a band, however fractured. And as you said, people'll be getting it from mere curiosity.

I think it'll be between the s/t and RTL, since at least one of them probably realised that the likes of Trivium are making "Thrash" cool again. Predicted reactions : crap at first, but a grower.


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You know what Metallica should do? Release a kick ass album (they must try very very x1000 hard), and then call it quits.

They should just get Matt Heafy and Rick Rubin to write the new album for them, then they record it, it's called a return to form and then they can retire. :P


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You know what Metallica should do? Release a kick ass album (they must try very very x1000 hard), and then call it quits.

They should just get Matt Heafy and Rick Rubin to write the new album for them, then they record it, it's called a return to form and then they can retire. :P


they should have anthemic choruses

Woooo ow u woo ow

WOOOOO U WOOOW


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Matt Harvey then? Dekapitator do a good job of bringing teh thrashes


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You know what Metallica should do? Release a kick ass album (they must try very very x1000 hard), and then call it quits.

They should just get Matt Heafy and Rick Rubin to write the new album for them, then they record it, it's called a return to form and then they can retire. :P


they should have anthemic choruses

Woooo ow u woo ow

WOOOOO U WOOOW


Now that Children Of Bodom went "mainstream", Metallica can copy them by singing

IAAAAU AAAUUU IIIAAAAUUUUUU


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I think something that needs to be brought up is that, even though there will be a lot of people automatically buying the new album (we'll call it ThreeLoad for now) because it's by Metallica, there will also be a lot of people saying it automatically sucks because it's by Metallica. So basically, Metallica's going to be stuck in limbo before the album's even released. With people either automatically rushing to the store and buying it because it's them, or people automatically saying it sucks before even listening to a single note of it because it's Metallica (or, at least, post-1991 Metallica).

My suggestion to everybody here: Just give the damn album a fair listen when it comes out. Without letting personal biases against the band get in the way. True, St. Anger was mediocre at best. But I actually think Risk (by Megadeth) was worse. And if Metallica simply clipped the songs shorter, kept the guitar solos, and may be spent a little more time on the lyrics, St. Anger might have actually been a pretty decent album. That said, I'd be lying if I said I'm expecting anything mindblowing on ThreeLoad, but I'm still willing to give it a fair shot. Hopefully, I and everybody else will be proven wrong about it.


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Nigga please.


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Nigga please.
:lol:


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My suggestion to everybody here: Just give the damn album a fair listen when it comes out. Without letting personal biases against the band get in the way. True, St. Anger was mediocre at best. But I actually think Risk (by Megadeth) was worse. And if Metallica simply clipped the songs shorter, kept the guitar solos, and may be spent a little more time on the lyrics, St. Anger might have actually been a pretty decent album. That said, I'd be lying if I said I'm expecting anything mindblowing on ThreeLoad, but I'm still willing to give it a fair shot. Hopefully, I and everybody else will be proven wrong about it.


Like the post by E.I. states above they are no longer a cohesive unit thus it is physically impossible for them to make another good album. It will never happen EVER! Hell, I don't even care if they're next album isn't metal as long as it's listenable. But even that would probably be asking too much from this band at this time.

There's so many kick ass metal bands out there releasing quality albums every month it's a wonder why these guys still get the press they get from the metal community. If Lars gets hemmoroids it will more than likely recieve more attention than Cage's new album. Just stick a fork in these has-beens already. What's Pyramaze doing right now?


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I dont really have faith in metallica anymore.. i don't like the music they have been playing the last 15 years so... wont tip this one to do it for me..


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 Post subject: Re: That ship has long since sailed and is never returning.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:18 pm 
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Seinfeld26 wrote:
My suggestion to everybody here: Just give the damn album a fair listen when it comes out. Without letting personal biases against the band get in the way. True, St. Anger was mediocre at best. But I actually think Risk (by Megadeth) was worse. And if Metallica simply clipped the songs shorter, kept the guitar solos, and may be spent a little more time on the lyrics, St. Anger might have actually been a pretty decent album. That said, I'd be lying if I said I'm expecting anything mindblowing on ThreeLoad, but I'm still willing to give it a fair shot. Hopefully, I and everybody else will be proven wrong about it.


Like the post by E.I. states above they are no longer a cohesive unit thus it is physically impossible for them to make another good album. It will never happen EVER! Hell, I don't even care if they're next album isn't metal as long as it's listenable. But even that would probably be asking too much from this band at this time.

There's so many kick ass metal bands out there releasing quality albums every month it's a wonder why these guys still get the press they get from the metal community. If Lars gets hemmoroids it will more than likely recieve more attention than Cage's new album. Just stick a fork in these has-beens already. What's Pyramaze doing right now?


Like I said before, another Load/ReLoad album would be fine by me. And if you read interviews from throughout the band's long career, you'll see that Lars and James have basically hated each other from the beginning. Meanwhile, Kirk was never given nearly as much credit as he deserved. Particularly with And Justice For All (which, of all that they've released in their 25 years, is the album Metallica themselves are most unhappy with). About the only difference between then and now is that Cliff Burton was given quite a bit of recognition by the band for his talent as a bass guitarist. While Newsted and Trujillo were basically kept in the background.


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Metallica does have a good history of Eastern influence in their songs (Wherever I May Roam, Creeping Death), but Metallica doesn't have a good history of playing Metal (Load, Reload, St....eh you get the idea). And we should all be taking everything they (especially this man) says with a grain of salt. Remember, St. Anger was supposed to have an Entombed influence to it. :rolleyes:


Let's not forget how either James or Lars said, about a few weeks before its release, that (of all the albums the band released up until that point) St. Anger most resembled And Justice For All. Well, I guess he was right about that. The album didn't in any way resemble any of the band's other albums. And it resembled Justice in two respects:

1. The songs were long.
2. The bass was almost non-existent.


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DeathScream\m/ wrote:
Metallica does have a good history of Eastern influence in their songs (Wherever I May Roam, Creeping Death), but Metallica doesn't have a good history of playing Metal (Load, Reload, St....eh you get the idea). And we should all be taking everything they (especially this man) says with a grain of salt. Remember, St. Anger was supposed to have an Entombed influence to it. :rolleyes:


Let's not forget how either James or Lars said, about a few weeks before its release, that (of all the albums the band released up until that point) St. Anger most resembled And Justice For All. Well, I guess he was right about that. The album didn't in any way resemble any of the band's other albums. And it resembled Justice in two respects:

1. The songs were long.
2. The bass was almost non-existent.


3.The drums sounded like shit


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3.The drums sounded like shit


The drums were the least of St Anger's problems, in my opinion.


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About the only difference between then and now is that Cliff Burton was given quite a bit of recognition by the band for his talent as a bass guitarist. .
He wasn't just their bassist. Cliff was also the creative force within the band. Trujillo or Newsted could never contribute as much as he did, leaving Lars and James to dominate.


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Yeah if you look at the band's discography and when Cliff died it definitely seems like he was the most creative of the bunch.


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Yeah if you look at the band's discography and when Cliff died it definitely seems like he was the most creative of the bunch.


I agree. To be fair though, Jason Newstead made many worthy contributions to Voivod on their last two albums. Metallica were idiots for not allowing him to write anythig while he was in the band.


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