Metal Reviews

Yeah, I was kind of agreeing until you got to the last bit. New Enslaved is fucking awesome, much better than the latest Vader (Slayer rip-offs, admit it), Krisiun (ok, cool band, but a bit of REAL progression would be nice), Misery Index (fuck right off. Overratedbollocks), Sinister (pah), Zyklon (every fucking band does that technical breakdown thing now. Theyn should split up whilst there's still some dignity left). Ok, Belphegor did well, and I disagree on Terrroriazer with Satyrinocon's latest crap. ut you need to listen to Ruun again with an open mind and a drink, and remember that Prog is the future. Another classic from THE BEST BLACK METAL BAND EVER!

And can I say FUCK TECH-DEATH without being killed? Repetitive, boring shit.

And I just saw your down-put of new Gorgoroth. Considering they're a bunch of church-burning rapiosts, Ad Gloriam was a pretty fucking good record./

Second Zad on Zyklon, tech death, and enslaved still ruling

however, i cannot agree with you on Satyricon or gorgoroth. Those albums smell...

Abd Oldschool: Blood Red Fog slay! Im still kicking myself for not putting them in my top 5 bm.....

I wouldn't compare Enslaved to those death metal bands, they're very different genres. As for Ruun, I'd say it's a good album, but I wouldn't say it's great. It's no match for Monumension, for sure. In my opinion, Ikuinen Kaamos's The Forlorn was a far better album in this area. Try it, if you didn't already, it's heavily influenced by Opeth, Enslaved and Drudkh, but it has enough personality to stand on its own.

I think it's Dago's job to slay you for the fuck tech death thing

How is misery index overrated? That is big bullshit, sorry.

Also were you pissed off when you wrote this message?

Sorry, Zad, are you actually saying that Enslaved are the best BM band ever?

Haven't heard the new NB, although would certainly like to now I've heard the impact it's had on KGG's mum. I have never been a big fan in the past, a band that does a similar thing (fast BM covered in melancholy keyboard sounds) but in a way that sounds better to me is Dub Buk (NS)

http://www.myspace.com/dubbukfan

That's good shiz, but it's more epic than Negura Bunget.

Tech-Death can go both ways... I doubt you'll wanna go into it, cuz it sounds like you gave it an honest chance, and who wants to talk about something they loathe? But, I wonder if you mean repetitive from album to album, or repetitive riff to riff, song to song? (I guess the latter means that any given band could have any sound they wanted, but by track 2, they already sound monotonous, and you lose them.)

I've been there, and I think you gotta take Tech'rs on one band, one album, and one song at a time. Psycroptic, Crimson Massacre... yeah, they're a bit overwhelming, but so is Krisiun's BLUNT Black Force Domain... so maybe it's a matter of how much the listener can retain. After all, a song should bear some similarity, or have something that stands out to you if you are to enjoy it.

Gorguts, Demilich, both old school tech, who cannot be denied so easily, I'm sure you forgot them... plus, there are far too many current scene class acts with equal parts insanity and accessability (Pavor and Psychotegen) out there to just say it all outta be fucked outta existence. Boring to some...

Not to forget the "lighter tech-death" such as
Gory Blister, Creepmime, Carcariass, Neglected Fields, Illogicist, Sceptic, Hieronymous Bosch and so on....

Great point. Illogicist practically falls in with Gothenberg, but it doesn't feel cloney. Light Techer's tend to tell the same story with another, more sensual language... if the mood is right, of course.

I used to like tech death but now I can't really stand most of it.

What the hell does that have to do with Negura Bunget? Stay on topic, asshole.

It's not that tech-death itself is bad. There's so bloody much of it, and it all sounds the same. I get much more of a kick out of the more old-school or grind sectors, which can be enjoyed without having to sit through it six times before it stops sounding like free jazz.

Not that free jazz is bad, but where's the passion? Death metal used to be about having fun and killing women. Now, it's all about how good a musician you are.

I'll accept that Gorguts and Krisiun are good bands, but the rest of them aren't something I'd want to spend my time with.

And yes, Charles, Enslaved would be a good candidate for best BM band ever, taking their discog as a whole. Beats Emperor and Burzum for quality consistency alone...

Combine the techical skill and the old (Original, in fact) mentality and you get:




Trey Azagthoth-ultimate example of what sweet skills will bring you. The ability to innovate for almost 20 years, changing the scene one sweep at a time. Bands STILL turn to Morbid Angel material, and I mean the hated recent material, just to rip it off. Aforementioned Mithras for example. Darkness Eternal, for another.

Still, I prefer the old style to the tech of any day... well, almost always, but don't think I don't know where your coming from. Cool response.

True, true. And as I said, I appreciate it in general. But I find myself listening more to the more old-school bands - I'll always reach for Napalm Death or Nasum, or Cephalic Carnage (noise and actual aggression over pointless technicality - If i wanted that, I'd listen to Dream Theater or something!)

Death metal in general has lost its shock value, I find. And for a lot of them, that's all that was really interesting. I can still remember listening to my first Blood Red Throne album and being shocked at lyrics about dressing a child up as a nun and raping it to death. Now, that's par for the course. Have I changed, or the bands? A little of both, but there's very little that inspires in death metal. Suffocation's latest was more impressive for me than any wanky tech-death lot with silly name that you care to mention.

Jazzy riffs and countless time changes may be cool, but they aren;t actually METAL. I'm beginning to see where the 'close-minded' brigade get it from...

I find my favourite death metal bands sort of find a balance between kicking your ass, being awesome musicians and actually having melody. If they only do one or two of those things it tends to get boring fast.