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You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


Hah, Zad and I were just talking about Mike Patton, decent rap music and electronica and some guy comes and calls me close minded.

I was liek "Fucken Whoaaaa!"


LAWL!

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grandbazaar wrote:
You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


I love guys like you. :lol: Clearly, the only_possible_way anyone could ever dislike Trivium is because they are CLOSE-MINDED.

Or, to put it another way "why don't you like the same music as meeeee?"

I consider myself to be a pretty 'open minded' guy musically (check out my last fm if you have to) but this song was just poor. Simple as.

Just to clarify, you do realise that's the point I was making, ja?


see how quick you are to judge ? were did I ever mention that only close-minded people could dislike Trivium?

How it must feel so good to judge people in a condescending way( exemple: "I love guys like you").


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Kathaarian wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


Hah, Zad and I were just talking about Mike Patton, decent rap music and electronica and some guy comes and calls me close minded.

I was liek "Fucken Whoaaaa!"


If you feel targeted by my statement so be it! I don't give a fuck,
but I never targeted anyone particuly, so if you feel targeted maybe there is some truth behind this to SOME DEGREE.


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Radagast wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


Hah, Zad and I were just talking about Mike Patton, decent rap music and electronica and some guy comes and calls me close minded.

I was liek "Fucken Whoaaaa!"


LAWL!

Wing, ja? Kicking Smalveh's German sodomy!


I AM HERE TO RIDE BIIIIKE!

BOOOOAT!.....

That vid was the best thing about Trivium and that's that.


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I'm just fed up of all those negative comments about a band most of the people on these boards only heard 1 or 2 songs at most and not even the good ones may I add. I can understand some one disliking this band for many reasons but then again lots of posters don't give reasons and go directly to the offense because it's cool to bash Trivium on these boards.

Ooooh, zing, bitches!


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grandbazaar wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


Hah, Zad and I were just talking about Mike Patton, decent rap music and electronica and some guy comes and calls me close minded.

I was liek "Fucken Whoaaaa!"


If you feel targeted by my statement so be it! I don't give a fuck,
but I never targeted anyone particuly, so if you feel targeted maybe there is some truth behind this to SOME DEGREE.


Well you hit me on 12 because I was talking shit about Trivium and you made a general shit talk about Trivium shit-talkers like me. You targeted all of us Trivium shit talkers, you didn't need to drop names. I just responded because I'm bored out of my tits.


I have....... tits? :shock:


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Kathaarian wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


Hah, Zad and I were just talking about Mike Patton, decent rap music and electronica and some guy comes and calls me close minded.

I was liek "Fucken Whoaaaa!"


If you feel targeted by my statement so be it! I don't give a fuck,
but I never targeted anyone particuly, so if you feel targeted maybe there is some truth behind this to SOME DEGREE.


Well you hit me on 12 because I was talking shit about Trivium and you made a general shit talk about Trivium shit-talkers like me. You targeted all of us Trivium shit talkers, you didn't need to drop names. I just responded because I'm bored out of my tits.


I have....... tits? :shock:


well close minded- Shit talkers were the targets.

you have tits ?


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grandbazaar wrote:
Radagast wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Radagast wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


I love guys like you. :lol: Clearly, the only_possible_way anyone could ever dislike Trivium is because they are CLOSE-MINDED.

Or, to put it another way "why don't you like the same music as meeeee?"

I consider myself to be a pretty 'open minded' guy musically (check out my last fm if you have to) but this song was just poor. Simple as.

Just to clarify, you do realise that's the point I was making, ja?


see how quick you are to judge ? were did I ever mention that only close-minded people could dislike Trivium?

How it must feel so good to judge people in a condescending way( exemple: "I love guys like you").

What the fuck are you blethering about?

You say: "all you people saying Trivium suck are close minded."
I say: "no we are not, at least not all of us." I do this in a sarcastic fashion. I do this because I am great.
Then, you say: "see how quick you are to judge ?"
Now, I say: Lawl, irony.


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I tried pretty hard to like Trivium actually, I downloaded Ascendancy like three different times but never found anything that was above mediocre on it :(


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I'm sick of this labelling open-minded and close-minded crap.


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I missed a lot here but nobody has made a compelling argument as to why Trivium are any good. All you guys defending Trivium are saying they are mediocre at best. So...am I missing something? Who cares if another person doesn't like a band you would deem as barely average?


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Listening to it now. It's t3h suxx face.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:49 am 
Orion wrote:
I missed a lot here but nobody has made a compelling argument as to why Trivium are any good. All you guys defending Trivium are saying they are mediocre at best. So...am I missing something? Who cares if another person doesn't like a band you would deem as barely average?

We don't need compelling arguments against "Trivium sucks," first off. Second, musically Trivium are damn good, vocally is where they suffer. The screams are strained and shitty. The previous two albums were ruined by this.

But this thread isn't about whether Trivium is a good band or not, those that chose to talk shit made it into that sort of thread, typical of this forum's serious downfall. This thread is about one song, a song that I feel is damn good. The heavy vocals suit the band far better than the screams. I don't have high hopes this this new album will have abandonded the screaming altogether, that's the bread and butter of the biz right now, but this song is very good.

Is that compelling enough for you? Of course not! Why ask for compelling arguments when absolutely nothing will change your mind?


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Eyesore wrote:
Orion wrote:
I missed a lot here but nobody has made a compelling argument as to why Trivium are any good. All you guys defending Trivium are saying they are mediocre at best. So...am I missing something? Who cares if another person doesn't like a band you would deem as barely average?

We don't need compelling arguments against "Trivium sucks," first off. Second, musically Trivium are damn good, vocally is where they suffer. The screams are strained and shitty. The previous two albums were ruined by this.

But this thread isn't about whether Trivium is a good band or not, those that chose to talk shit made it into that sort of thread, typical of this forum's serious downfall. This thread is about one song, a song that I feel is damn good. The heavy vocals suit the band far better than the screams. I don't have high hopes this this new album will have abandonded the screaming altogether, that's the bread and butter of the biz right now, but this song is very good.

Is that compelling enough for you? Of course not! Why ask for compelling arguments when absolutely nothing will change your mind?



Well why do I need a compelling argument about why they suck if it isn't going to change your mind? Oh and by the way most everybody here has said more than they suck. People have given reasons they don't like them.


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Radagast wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Radagast wrote:
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Radagast wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


I love guys like you. :lol: Clearly, the only_possible_way anyone could ever dislike Trivium is because they are CLOSE-MINDED.

Or, to put it another way "why don't you like the same music as meeeee?"

I consider myself to be a pretty 'open minded' guy musically (check out my last fm if you have to) but this song was just poor. Simple as.

Just to clarify, you do realise that's the point I was making, ja?


see how quick you are to judge ? were did I ever mention that only close-minded people could dislike Trivium?

How it must feel so good to judge people in a condescending way( exemple: "I love guys like you").

What the fuck are you blethering about?

You say: "all you people saying Trivium suck are close minded."
I say: "no we are not, at least not all of us." I do this in a sarcastic fashion. I do this because I am great.
Then, you say: "see how quick you are to judge ?"
Now, I say: Lawl, irony.


first off all you tell me Im one of "those people" people under a tone that indicates dispise. Then secondly you assume I meant only open-minded people liked Trivium which I never said.
so basically you passing judgment on false impressions and barely any substance. If there were any sacarstic tone in your post it completely got lost....

Anyhow I don't feel like arguing this as I have explained myself in other previous posts.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:58 am 
Orion wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Orion wrote:
I missed a lot here but nobody has made a compelling argument as to why Trivium are any good. All you guys defending Trivium are saying they are mediocre at best. So...am I missing something? Who cares if another person doesn't like a band you would deem as barely average?

We don't need compelling arguments against "Trivium sucks," first off. Second, musically Trivium are damn good, vocally is where they suffer. The screams are strained and shitty. The previous two albums were ruined by this.

But this thread isn't about whether Trivium is a good band or not, those that chose to talk shit made it into that sort of thread, typical of this forum's serious downfall. This thread is about one song, a song that I feel is damn good. The heavy vocals suit the band far better than the screams. I don't have high hopes this this new album will have abandonded the screaming altogether, that's the bread and butter of the biz right now, but this song is very good.

Is that compelling enough for you? Of course not! Why ask for compelling arguments when absolutely nothing will change your mind?

Well why do I need a compelling argument about why they suck if it isn't going to change your mind? Oh and by the way most everybody here has said more than they suck. People have given reasons they don't like them.

Blatant negativity does this board no good. Very few have really spoken more than playground opinions here. Like I said in the thread in the Hellheim forum, why can't some people not come off sounding like uneducated fools when discussing something they dislike?

I'll tell you why, because they don't give a fuck! Why even begin to talk about something you don't care about? Most people are here to chat and act out high school nonsense online. It's not about the music for most people here, even if they claim it is.


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Bull. Shit. It is about the music, and if your tastes had any sort of quality filter on them you'd realise that, Ken. Music has it's mountains and valleys just like books and films. Just like the art it is. Shitty little bands like Trivium that come along out of nowhere and start selling bazillions are not art. There is nothing sublime about them, like there is about better metal. I hear this song, I think, wow, they've completely revealed their whorish nature. Money. Not art. Isn't that a good enough reason to dislike them? If a band has been around for a while and worked, and actually made art, as Blind Guardian have, then they deserve the financial rewards that I hope are coming to them. Trivium don't deserve anything except a quick trip to the bargain bin. Fuck 'em.

And Grandbizarre, I have listened to a few Trivium songs in my time. Studio and live recordings, and they sound absolutely shite live.


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I tried pretty hard to like Trivium actually, I downloaded Ascendancy like three different times but never found anything that was above mediocre on it :(


The first one is better. Much better. And buy albums foolish emoboy! Then you feel the need to like it cos you paid money for it.


I did like the start, until the metallica vocals came in. And the emo chorus was ok (and the vocals were fuzzed out, which is good!)

For trivium that was good. In reality, not horrible. Id give the album a download. Obviously like all catchy metalcore, it would get boring pretty wuick then never be listened to again.

But, er, Ken? If you cant hear the hetfield-like vocals at the start, you may be insane. :shock:


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grandbazaar wrote:
Radagast wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Radagast wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Radagast wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
You guys can shit all you want on "Trivium", I don't care about your close minded opinions, cause Trivium is much better than all the nu-metal and radio bands out there. I'm not saying they are the best but I enjoy listening to their music once in a while. And if because of Trivium people start to look into more "obscure" metal bands than it will have certainly served it's purpose.


I love guys like you. :lol: Clearly, the only_possible_way anyone could ever dislike Trivium is because they are CLOSE-MINDED.

Or, to put it another way "why don't you like the same music as meeeee?"

I consider myself to be a pretty 'open minded' guy musically (check out my last fm if you have to) but this song was just poor. Simple as.

Just to clarify, you do realise that's the point I was making, ja?


see how quick you are to judge ? were did I ever mention that only close-minded people could dislike Trivium?

How it must feel so good to judge people in a condescending way( exemple: "I love guys like you").

What the fuck are you blethering about?

You say: "all you people saying Trivium suck are close minded."
I say: "no we are not, at least not all of us." I do this in a sarcastic fashion. I do this because I am great.
Then, you say: "see how quick you are to judge ?"
Now, I say: Lawl, irony.


first off all you tell me Im one of "those people" people under a tone that indicates dispise. Then secondly you assume I meant only open-minded people liked Trivium which I never said.
so basically you passing judgment on false impressions and barely any substance. If there were any sacarstic tone in your post it completely got lost....

Anyhow I don't feel like arguing this as I have explained myself in other previous posts.

Look, bottom line - you came charging in and made a stupid (and oh-so-typical of 'modern' metal fans) statement about close-mindedness. Whether or not you meant to, it certainly looked like you implied that everyone in the thread saying the song sucked were only doing so because we had pre-conceived notions of the band's shittiness, so you can't really complain if people bite back. I for one gave a piece by piece explanation of why I didn't like the song. Is that enough for you?


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Bull. Shit. It is about the music, and if your tastes had any sort of quality filter on them you'd realise that, Ken. Music has it's mountains and valleys just like books and films. Just like the art it is. Shitty little bands like Trivium that come along out of nowhere and start selling bazillions are not art. There is nothing sublime about them, like there is about better metal. I hear this song, I think, wow, they've completely revealed their whorish nature. Money. Not art. Isn't that a good enough reason to dislike them? If a band has been around for a while and worked, and actually made art, as Blind Guardian have, then they deserve the financial rewards that I hope are coming to them. Trivium don't deserve anything except a quick trip to the bargain bin. Fuck 'em.

Dude, please shut it. You're a walking contradiction! First off, you're replying some unnecessary shit in response to things I neither said nor implied.

Now do us all a favor, re-read the drivel that you've written here, and then go hang out in your fucking Evanescence thread.


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