Metal Reviews

Why, I saw one just today.

:shock: There is one in my office, I is well scared.

Blimey, there's a little one over there with a Led Zep t-shirt on. Do you think he'd respond if I engaged him in conversation? Maybe he doesn't speak. :?

Ow iz ur urban rimes?

Well, I learnt to speak English from listening to Trevor McDonald, so not very. And I'm a bit lacking in the "bling" department... Do you suppose the fellow would respond if I bought him a sandwich, or do they only eat leaves?

And white babies.

Good point. Hey, there's a shapely blonde over there. You don't think...?

Yes, obviously stricter gun control would make it harder for people to get guns illegaly. And even white people shoot their guns off "by accident". Oops, thought he was a deer. DEA, you do have some rational fears, but when you start talking about guns ina positive way, i have to draw a line. that bit about guns not killing people counts as one of the biggest loads of bullshit i ever heard, right after "Saddam's getting uranium from africa" and "I thought he was a deer". Guns make it so much eaier for someone to momentarily lose his head and kill someone, for no reason at all. I mean, come on. You might end up shooting the wrong guy, or you might miss his knees, or you might shoot someone you thought was trying to hurt you and who was actually just telling you you dropped your keys. Do you really trust yourself to handle a gun correctly in a situation where you find yourself under pressure? I don't think so.


and Zad, 1: I'm american as well, and 2: I don't hate all americans, only the oppressive republicans and the wimpy democrats. and of course the hypocritical priests. and the stupid masses.... oh well, i guess It's simpler to say I just hate everybody...

Whisper it:

I wasn't serious...

About blacks in the UK...
Blacks make up only about 1.8 percent of the population in the UK. There's no possible way you encounter as many blacks as Americans do. They are 13% here. In the UK, whites make up over 92% of the population. Here, whites make up only 65%.
You might have a lot of Arabs invading, but they're not the same as blacks. We have a lot of Mexicans invading, and they are not the same as blacks. European countries are largely homogenous. If you want to experience real "multiculturalism", you'll have to come to America.

"Invading"? Considering your entire country is made up of immigrants, that's a... strange viewpoint to have. Still, admittedly there are less blacks in the UK than the US, you got us there.

I wasn't either!

This is why what you say is a meaningless babble to me.

Anyway, the point stands - there are parts of Glasgow I would be afraid to walk through at night. There are other parts I would be afraid to walk thorugh in broad daylight. There are very few black people in these areas. By your logic, it follows that I ought to hate white people. And please, don't give me any of that bullshit about these people being white acting black.

Gun DON'T kill people. Have you ever seen, or even heard of, an incident where a gun decided to kill someone with no help from a person at all? I haven't. Because it doesn't happen. For a gun to kill someone, a person must be actively operating it.

Your fear of guns in pretty irrational. To even get a permit to buy a gun, you have to be at least 18 (21 for some kinds). You can't have a criminal record (Which is why criminals do and still would buy their guns illegally). You can't be mentally incompetent. You also have to fill out all kinds of paperwork. They don't let just anybody buy a gun, you know. Most people who buy guns with the intent to shoot will probably take the time to practice with it at a shooting range. Guns are only bad in the hands of bad people...and those people aren't supposed to be able to get gun anyway.

I think a better way of cutting down on gun crimes would be to more harshly prosecute those found of having a gun illegally and also to have the police devote more efforts into tracking down people who are selling them illegally in areas where gun crimes are a problem. When charging the defendants with this sort of crime, offer them a plea bargain to give up the names and whereabouts of the person they bought it from or all the other people they sold to. Right now, police devote too much of their efforts to solving crimes and not preventing them. And eating donuts.

Banning guns isn't going to keep them out of the hands of criminals who want to use them. That's why they're criminals! They don't care about breaking the law! Banning guns for everyone doesn't change anything for the criminal. It's illegal to him either way. People selling the guns illegally are not just walking into a store and purchasing them, either, so it's not a question of keeping the dealers from buying them legally.
All banning guns would do is take away a citizen's means of defense, not to mention the deer population would skyrocket without hunters being allowed to shoot them. It doesn't help that many states have ridiculous laws about what you must do first before you can take a shot at someone who is attacking you.

And as for handling a gun correctly under pressure...well, I cannot say how well, I'd do. I certainly wouldn't shoot if there was a bystander who might get hurt. (Though a bystander ought to be running to get help and not standing around watching.) But you know, I trust myself to shoot the gun correctly more than I trust an attacker to back off and say "just kidding" and then let me go. And in my defense, I'm fortunate enough to be one of those people who is able to stay calm and think clearly in a bad situation. To be honest, I think I perform better under pressure. I very much doubt I would panic and just start shooting. I certainly would never pull a gun on anyone until I was certain danger was imminent...like if they were running towards me with a knife, or trying to force me into their car, or trying to tear my clothes off. You have must have very weird ideas about gun users if you think they'd be so quick to shoot someone who might just be saying they dropped their keys. :roll:

Umm.. this 'guns don't kill people, people do' is just the way of looking at it. If those people didn't have guns, would they go and buy fishforks, and rob stores with them? Ah, I see.

And Desolate, that explains why:

1. There is so much gun-crime in Europe. Hell, every other day you hear about cops getting killed! :shock: These filthy criminals are secretly buying guns, and using them. I see it clearly now. Of course, the way to solve this problem is to legalize guns, then criminals will not be able to get them any easier.
2. The deer population of England is out of control! Seriously, I was out today and I saw three of the fuckers walking throught Tesco's, bold as brass. We must allow hunting again, so the bastards can be kept down, where they belong.

And of course, giving people guns means give the cops guns too. Don't worry about that poor fuck who got shot for carrying a table leg. Them cops are professionally trained, shooting unarmed men seven times in the head is just part of the job.

I think the problem with guns is not the self-defender, is the criminal... Just because there's a lot of possibilities than a victim can have a gun, the criminals react shooting first. In Europe, as there's few people with arms, criminals don't kill you... just steal you.

That's the real problem... criminals don't want to be shooted (in self defense), so they shoot first, just as a protection measure.

I agree in the fact that guns don't kill people, is people who does it.

@Zad- They are invading. We have something like an estimated 12 million Mexicans here illegally. YOUR government admits it doesn't even have any idea how many Arabs are in your country illegally. I call that an invasion. Especially considering how they leech off of welfare.

The difference between my immigrants ancestors and the Mexican hordes is that my ancestors came legally. They had to come through Ellis Island and show that they were in good health and knew a thing or three about America. Then they were dumped on the mainland and left to make their own way.
The invaders refuse to come legally, and then demand that we give them whatever they want. They don't think they should have to show that they are disease free like legal immigrants do. I guess they think they're just too good for that, even though they're bringing diseases back that were nearly eradicated in this country. They also don't think they have to learn English and that they deserve to have welfare to fall back on, which most do because they have more children than they can afford to feed. Nevermind that hospitals here are going broke left and right because the law says you have to treat anyone who comes to the emergency room, regardless of their legal status or ability to pay. So the mexicans go to the ER for every little sniffle and cough and then don't pay a dime, which leaves the hospital to foot the bill and drives up health care costs for everyone else.

Zad- Please explain to me how banning guns for law abiding citizens is going to stop gun crimes. I would like a nice outline of how you think that plan will work. How is that going to keep guns out of the hands of the criminals who are apt to commit crimes with a gun?

My government is incompetant. You can't seriously be saying that the problem's so great that it has defeated even the almighty British beaurocracy? Not at all, it's just the useless people who run this place.

Yes, I'm not denying that illegal immigration is a problem. It's hardly invading, though.

And that's an excellent argument for a National Health Service. I fully agree with you, free health care for all is the only way to do things.

Its a simple fact that its difficult to legally obtain a gun in Europe and gun crime is low, and that the opposite to both is the case in the US. Of course people would still be able to get hold of guns if they were illegal, but your average pissant who picks up a gun and ends up shooting his neighbour in the face over a lawnmowing argument wouldn't be armed to the teeth if they didn't have easy access to weaponry.

Its all a moot point anyway beacuse making guns illegal in America at this point in time would be crazy with everyone already armed. The country is paying the price for being too liberal (with a small L) in the past on the gun issue.