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 Post subject: Who started Nu-Metal?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:50 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:31 am 
I am by no means an expert, so this doesn't mean much at all coming from me, but I've heard Korn credited with it.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:01 am 
Deftones were around before Korn, but Korn made it popular.

Bands like Fear Factory, Pantera, and Faith No More laid the basis for nu-metal, even if they weren't themselves nu-metal.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:16 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:33 pm 
Beethoven.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:29 pm 
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Beethoven.


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Mozart was the first pop star, but unlike most of today's Nu-Metalists he didn't pervert the achivements of his predecessors.

Korn were originally labelled Rap-Metal. The Nu-Metal label was invented after the huge success of Life is peachy.
Some experts claim Fear Factory and Biohazard to be the inventors, but since they hadn't any commercial success the Nu-Metal stigma passed their asses.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:45 pm 
I think Sepultura also helped kick start nu-metal with Roots. In fact, I always felt THAT was the first real nu-"metal" album (Korn wasn't really metal when they debuted, and didn't really become popular until Life Is Peachy was released). Chaos AD was also pretty influencial to the nu-metal movement.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:59 am 
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I still like Chaos AD, but I gave Roots away long ago.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:29 am 
Seinfeld26 wrote:
I think Sepultura also helped kick start nu-metal with Roots. In fact, I always felt THAT was the first real nu-"metal" album (Korn wasn't really metal when they debuted, and didn't really become popular until Life Is Peachy was released). Chaos AD was also pretty influencial to the nu-metal movement.


actually, if you listen to Metallica's Thing that should not be you can notice, though it's not in anyway nu-metal, a guitar sound Sepultura first then a lot of nu-metal bands used... should we consider this an influence ? :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:31 pm 
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Seinfeld26 wrote:
I think Sepultura also helped kick start nu-metal with Roots. In fact, I always felt THAT was the first real nu-"metal" album (Korn wasn't really metal when they debuted, and didn't really become popular until Life Is Peachy was released). Chaos AD was also pretty influencial to the nu-metal movement.


actually, if you listen to Metallica's Thing that should not be you can notice, though it's not in anyway nu-metal, a guitar sound Sepultura first then a lot of nu-metal bands used... should we consider this an influence ? :roll:


Interesting point. Sepultura practically had a "joint ventureship" with Metallica back in the 80's/early-90's. Ironically, when Newsted left, Sepultura wrote a statement saying, "Who cares? Metallica sucks now and they'll suck even worse with Newsted gone" (like Sepultura's really the one to talk!). What's kind of odd is that the whole "tribal metal" thing was oft imitated by bands like Godsmack and Slipknot, even though it was probably intended to be a simple novelty.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:18 pm 
Seinfeld26 wrote:
The Immortal Emokid wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
I think Sepultura also helped kick start nu-metal with Roots. In fact, I always felt THAT was the first real nu-"metal" album (Korn wasn't really metal when they debuted, and didn't really become popular until Life Is Peachy was released). Chaos AD was also pretty influencial to the nu-metal movement.


actually, if you listen to Metallica's Thing that should not be you can notice, though it's not in anyway nu-metal, a guitar sound Sepultura first then a lot of nu-metal bands used... should we consider this an influence ? :roll:


Interesting point. Sepultura practically had a "joint ventureship" with Metallica back in the 80's/early-90's. Ironically, when Newsted left, Sepultura wrote a statement saying, "Who cares? Metallica sucks now and they'll suck even worse with Newsted gone" (like Sepultura's really the one to talk!). What's kind of odd is that the whole "tribal metal" thing was oft imitated by bands like Godsmack and Slipknot, even though it was probably intended to be a simple novelty.


I think the remainers of the original Sepultura to be honest people... Chaos AD launched Roots... so, kinda like a logical progression but i agree with you, this wouldn't have lasted... but then Max & Wife lost their temper & went onto the Nu-Metal-Shit-Scene.... so, well, I don't blame the band's new line-up... they're doing their best in the most honest way possible... not really stuff for me though...but Respect :!:


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Anthrax?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:09 pm 
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MTV started it by making shit like Limp Bizkit and Korn their metal poster children in the late 90's. Without MTV Nu-metal would never be as popular and therefore there would not be as many Nu-Metal bands


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From what I've seen, ppl (for example those nu-metal kiddies) like to be associated with the word 'metal'. but theyre scared to listen to, or can't take, metal. this carves out a niche for nu-metal bands, who have the word 'metal' in their genre name but churn out nothing but rubbish.


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I have no fucking clue who started this shit but he/she/they must DIE for high treason against METAL !


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Praetor wrote:
From what I've seen, ppl (for example those nu-metal kiddies) like to be associated with the word 'metal'. but theyre scared to listen to, or can't take, metal. this carves out a niche for nu-metal bands, who have the word 'metal' in their genre name but churn out nothing but rubbish.


I agree... it seems like nu-metal is fitting the niche where kids want to listen to angsty, angry music that is "heavy", but they don't want to (or are afraid to) go all the way and listen to real metal. To use a black-metal analagy... it's like why Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth are popular. They are "black-metal" in the sense that they wear corpse paint and play heavy, fast music, but they are also toned down to cut out most of the satanism, and the real extreme hatred and intensity of true black metal... they are "safe" black metal. In the same sense, nu-metal is "safe" metal. It's angry, and a little bit heavy, but not as intense as true metal.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:08 pm 
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Praetor wrote:
From what I've seen, ppl (for example those nu-metal kiddies) like to be associated with the word 'metal'. but theyre scared to listen to, or can't take, metal. this carves out a niche for nu-metal bands, who have the word 'metal' in their genre name but churn out nothing but rubbish.


I agree... it seems like nu-metal is fitting the niche where kids want to listen to angsty, angry music that is "heavy", but they don't want to (or are afraid to) go all the way and listen to real metal. To use a black-metal analagy... it's like why Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth are popular. They are "black-metal" in the sense that they wear corpse paint and play heavy, fast music, but they are also toned down to cut out most of the satanism, and the real extreme hatred and intensity of true black metal... they are "safe" black metal. In the same sense, nu-metal is "safe" metal. It's angry, and a little bit heavy, but not as intense as true metal.


I disagree

those kids like the big guitars, jumpy tempi & easy pop songs combination... it's not what metal is all about... :evil:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:11 pm 
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indeed, there is a total difference, nu-metal and especially mallcore is far heavier than more non-extreme metalgenres. and they really are not afraid to listen to real metal, they just think its's not cool or something or don't know about it...


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