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 Post subject: Rob Zombie has lost it
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:56 pm 
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Saw the new Zombie album for ten bucks, so picked it up.

It blows.

It blows bad.

He's lost that excellent touch he had on Hellbilly Deluxe and the refined style on Sinister Urge. Educated Horses sounds almost like overly processed hollywood rock. Only Let It All Bleed Out has potential.

Interested in seeing the official review from Metal Reviews.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:18 pm 
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Rob Zombie never had it.


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Brahm_K wrote:
Rob Zombie never had it.


Thats true....i dont think we could ever call Rob Zombie normal

As for the new album, didnt even know he released a new one. I have The Sinister Urge, but only liked about 4-5 songs.

I may check it out.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:32 pm 
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Brahm_K wrote:
Rob Zombie never had it.


Gotta disagree, I liked his stuff with White Zombie, with his first solo album being the pinnacle of his career. Minor, very minor downturn with the Sinister Urge, still a good album in my eyes. But this Uneducated Horses feels like it was made by an uneducated band, with the exception of a song or two.


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 Post subject: Re: Rob Zombie has lost it
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:34 pm 
Leathco wrote:
Saw the new Zombie album for ten bucks, so picked it up.

It blows.

It blows bad.

He's lost that excellent touch he had on Hellbilly Deluxe and the refined style on Sinister Urge. Educated Horses sounds almost like overly processed hollywood rock. Only Let It All Bleed Out has potential.

Interested in seeing the official review from Metal Reviews.

Get out of my house!! The new album is fucking excellent! Once again this is just an example of a fan not being able to handle change. If you didn't like "(Go To) California," "Pussy Liquor," "Never Gonna Stop (The Red, Red Kroovy)," "Two-Lane Blacktop" and a few others then you won't like half of this album. There are NO bad songs here, there are just some songs that are different. You can't expect musicians to release the same goddamn thing over and over again, and when they do the same fans complain that the band hasn't changed! But when they change they complain about that! Pffffffffffffffft!


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 Post subject: Re: Rob Zombie has lost it
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:37 pm 
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Eyesore wrote:
Leathco wrote:
Saw the new Zombie album for ten bucks, so picked it up.

It blows.

It blows bad.

He's lost that excellent touch he had on Hellbilly Deluxe and the refined style on Sinister Urge. Educated Horses sounds almost like overly processed hollywood rock. Only Let It All Bleed Out has potential.

Interested in seeing the official review from Metal Reviews.

Get out of my house!! The new album is fucking excellent!


HaHa! I went to buy it today, but I found used copies of Falconer and Carcass, so Rob will have to wait.


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 Post subject: Re: Rob Zombie has lost it
PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:33 am 
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Eyesore wrote:
Leathco wrote:
Saw the new Zombie album for ten bucks, so picked it up.

It blows.

It blows bad.

He's lost that excellent touch he had on Hellbilly Deluxe and the refined style on Sinister Urge. Educated Horses sounds almost like overly processed hollywood rock. Only Let It All Bleed Out has potential.

Interested in seeing the official review from Metal Reviews.

Get out of my house!! The new album is fucking excellent! Once again this is just an example of a fan not being able to handle change. If you didn't like "(Go To) California," "Pussy Liquor," "Never Gonna Stop (The Red, Red Kroovy)," "Two-Lane Blacktop" and a few others then you won't like half of this album. There are NO bad songs here, there are just some songs that are different. You can't expect musicians to release the same goddamn thing over and over again, and when they do the same fans complain that the band hasn't changed! But when they change they complain about that! Pffffffffffffffft!


Obviously, someone has issues when someone criticizes a favorite artist of his. For shame!

I don't have an issue with change. I liked the change from Hellbilly to Sinister Urge where he went for a more studioesque, professional style. I DO NOT like the new "Hollywood" style he has going though. And I did like Never Gonna Stop. And as I said in my original post, Let It All Bleed Out is decent.

Fans complain about change only when it is for the worst. I didn't see too many people complaining about Disturbed changing styles on Ten Thousand Fists. Why? Because it was a good change, one that made this band better.

Unfortunately, your comments reek of fanboyism, instead of giving a well constructed defense you decide to flame me for my opinion, simply stating the album was "different".

Oh well. Back to Gamma Ray!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:48 pm 
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Brahm_K wrote:
Rob Zombie never had it.


+1


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 Post subject: Re: Rob Zombie has lost it
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:54 am 
Leathco wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Leathco wrote:
Saw the new Zombie album for ten bucks, so picked it up.

It blows.

It blows bad.

He's lost that excellent touch he had on Hellbilly Deluxe and the refined style on Sinister Urge. Educated Horses sounds almost like overly processed hollywood rock. Only Let It All Bleed Out has potential.

Interested in seeing the official review from Metal Reviews.

Get out of my house!! The new album is fucking excellent! Once again this is just an example of a fan not being able to handle change. If you didn't like "(Go To) California," "Pussy Liquor," "Never Gonna Stop (The Red, Red Kroovy)," "Two-Lane Blacktop" and a few others then you won't like half of this album. There are NO bad songs here, there are just some songs that are different. You can't expect musicians to release the same goddamn thing over and over again, and when they do the same fans complain that the band hasn't changed! But when they change they complain about that! Pffffffffffffffft!


Obviously, someone has issues when someone criticizes a favorite artist of his. For shame!

I don't have an issue with change. I liked the change from Hellbilly to Sinister Urge where he went for a more studioesque, professional style. I DO NOT like the new "Hollywood" style he has going though. And I did like Never Gonna Stop. And as I said in my original post, Let It All Bleed Out is decent.

Fans complain about change only when it is for the worst. I didn't see too many people complaining about Disturbed changing styles on Ten Thousand Fists. Why? Because it was a good change, one that made this band better.

Unfortunately, your comments reek of fanboyism, instead of giving a well constructed defense you decide to flame me for my opinion, simply stating the album was "different".

Oh well. Back to Gamma Ray!

Fanboy? Your initial statement implied this sounded like a different band! It does not. It sounds like stuff he's done in the past! Saying it's "Hollywood" makes no sense considering no one but you knows what "Hollywood" is referring to.

1. Sawdust In The Blood and 100 Ways are both instrumentals interludes on this album. No change there. Every album prior to this one has had the same things.

2. American Witch, Seventeen Years Locust, Let It All Bleed Out, Ride and Lords Of Salem are just like the heavier Rob Zombie songs.

3. Foxy, Foxy, The Scorpion Sleeps, Death Of It All, and The Devil's Rejects are also like Rob's solo stuff, but the different songs like "Pussy Liquor" and "Two-Lane Blacktop" and "Never Gonna Stop (The Red, Red Kroovy)."

So essentially you've got two instrumentals, five songs like the heavier Rob Zombie and four songs like the more experimental Rob Zombie. "Seventeen Years Locust" is sort of a mix of both, but I think the heavy chorus puts it more in that "Bring Her Down (To Cripple Town)" zone. Either way, it's not different. It's just an even mix where in the past there were more heavier tunes. "Foxy Foxy" is the most rock-oriented track and it sounds like early Alice Cooper.

If you've ever heard Pyscho-Head Blowout or Soul Crusher or anything previous to those albums you'll hear that Rob has done nothing but incorporate that early White Zombie style into his solo work (though much better).

To be honest, I don't know what you're listening to because the style, feel and production on this album is consistent with Rob's previous albums. You can dislike it all you want, but arguing that something is "Hollywood" and not explaining what that means reeks of someone who didn't get what he wanted, so he's making something up to explain what happened. Anyone who didn't hear where Rob's solo music was going wasn't really listening in the first place.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:58 am 
Posting in this thread, but not commenting on rob zombie.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:01 am 
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Posting in this thread, but not commenting on rob zombie.

Idiot.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:59 am 
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Well the two posts before mine sure are relevant. :roll:

Anyhow I found White Zombie to be decent, maybe I will get around to hearing this.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:27 am 
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Just passing through!!!!!

Rob Zombie sucks


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:46 pm 
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Sounding Hollywood = Cookie cutter, taking no risks music, looking for mass market appeal instead of making a good album. Sorry if I didn't explain that earlier, that was my fault.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:28 pm 
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Everyones already said it, but ROB ZOMBIE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!


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following the reaper wrote:
Everyones already said it, but ROB ZOMBIE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!


Care to elaborate, or is it just "He izzzz gay and posor. Children of Bodom have teh gay sex with Zombie! lolzorroxrsoxor!"

I at least give a reason when I stop into a thread and say I don't like something.

I liked this album. In fact, it's more well-rounded than "The Sinister Urge" It's just fun Heavy Rock. Foxy, Foxy is kind of worthless, it's too short and just repeats itself, but the rest of it is pure Rob Zombie. The Scorpion Sleeps, American Witch, The Devil's Rejects are all great songs. If you like Rob Zombie's solo stuff you'll like this for sure. I don't what everyone is saying is so different about it, it's the logical continuation of what he was doing on "The Sinister Urge". And it's got motherfucking John Five!

BTW, Sawdust in the Blood is the same riff John Five used on Marilyn Manson's "Count to Six and Die" slowed down.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:07 pm 
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Sounding Hollywood = Cookie cutter, taking no risks music, looking for mass market appeal instead of making a good album. Sorry if I didn't explain that earlier, that was my fault.

Let's see, Rob Zombie HAD the winning solution. He could have made an entire album with songs like "American Witch" because THAT is the type of song that has made waves in the past, that is the money-maker! Yet, he releases "Foxy, Foxy" as the first single, a song that is far removed from that heavy Zombie sounds of the past. To me, that sounds like a HUGE risk. Let's not pretend like Zombie's music has ever been complex, so the cookie-cutter reference makes little sense, even less considering not one other artist out there sounds like Rob Zombie.

Like I said, I think you just didn't get wanted and thus haven't really listened and blame it on something like "Rob sold out!"—which is essentially what you've said.


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First of all, I've given this album numerous second chances. It's been in my car now for the past 4 days with me listening hoping to find some hope in it. Other than Let It All Bleed Out, I honestly can't find any.

And go back, listen to Superbeast, Dragula, Living Dead Girl, than the new album. Everyone has their opinions, but these tracks are stronger than anything on the new album in most peoples eyes.

It's not complexity that made iy good, it was the feel, which seems gone to me, other than snippets here and there.

Think whatever you want, that's your perogative.

Eyesore wrote:
Leathco wrote:
Sounding Hollywood = Cookie cutter, taking no risks music, looking for mass market appeal instead of making a good album. Sorry if I didn't explain that earlier, that was my fault.

Let's see, Rob Zombie HAD the winning solution. He could have made an entire album with songs like "American Witch" because THAT is the type of song that has made waves in the past, that is the money-maker! Yet, he releases "Foxy, Foxy" as the first single, a song that is far removed from that heavy Zombie sounds of the past. To me, that sounds like a HUGE risk. Let's not pretend like Zombie's music has ever been complex, so the cookie-cutter reference makes little sense, even less considering not one other artist out there sounds like Rob Zombie.

Like I said, I think you just didn't get wanted and thus haven't really listened and blame it on something like "Rob sold out!"—which is essentially what you've said.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:22 am 
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First of all, I've given this album numerous second chances. It's been in my car now for the past 4 days with me listening hoping to find some hope in it. Other than Let It All Bleed Out, I honestly can't find any.

And go back, listen to Superbeast, Dragula, Living Dead Girl, than the new album. Everyone has their opinions, but these tracks are stronger than anything on the new album in most peoples eyes.

It's not complexity that made iy good, it was the feel, which seems gone to me, other than snippets here and there.

Think whatever you want, that's your perogative.

Dude, if you don't like it, fine. You're saying it's somehow different, though. It's not. You say "Let It All Bleed Out" is the only song like earlier stuff, which is not true at all. Rob has branched out, you don't like it, no problem, but it doesn't mean it's not good.


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Brahm_K wrote:
Rob Zombie never had it.

Yap, first thing that came to my mind as well.


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