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Author:  Goat [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Which Nightwish should I get?

Ok, so I saw two albums on sale. Wishmaster and Angels Fall First (remastered). Which should I get? So far, have Once and love it, don't necessarily want the one most similar. Just tell me which is better...

Author:  Radagast [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:21 pm ]
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Wishmaster is their second best, after Oceanborn.

Angels Fall First is their 'weird' album (the debut) - slight ambient and folk touches here and there, generally a lot less polished.

Wrong forum, n00b. :P

Author:  stuartn15ted [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:22 pm ]
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Wishmaster. My fav Nightwish album.

Author:  December Flower [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:29 pm ]
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I remember saying that AFF was better than Wishmaster in some old thread. I must have been on something when I said that. Wishmaster is far better.

Author:  Goat [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:32 pm ]
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Radagast wrote:

Wrong forum, n00b. :P


Power? If you say so.... :?

Looks like it's Wishmaster, then. Thanks to all.

Author:  grandbazaar [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:56 pm ]
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Between those two, i'd go with Wishmaster.

Wishmaster is the first album I got by them
and listened to it quite a bit but from all of their albums
Wishmaster and Angels Fall First are the two I listen to the least.

Their best albums
are Oceanborn and Century Child.

Author:  Radagast [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:04 pm ]
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grandbazaar wrote:
Between those two, i'd go with Wishmaster.

Wishmaster is the first album I got by them
and listened to it quite a bit but from all of their albums
Wishmaster and Angels Fall First are the two I listen to the least.

Their best albums
are Oceanborn and Century Child.

I prefer Wishmaster to Century Child. Century Child i feel just sorta tails off towards the end. Plus, I much prefer the rich guitar/keyboard tones on Wishmster to the downtuned chugging on the later albums. But that's just me.

Author:  Orion [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:24 pm ]
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Wishmaster is a great album. Haven't head Angels Fall First though.

Author:  grandbazaar [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:25 pm ]
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Radagast wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Between those two, i'd go with Wishmaster.

Wishmaster is the first album I got by them
and listened to it quite a bit but from all of their albums
Wishmaster and Angels Fall First are the two I listen to the least.

Their best albums
are Oceanborn and Century Child.

I prefer Wishmaster to Century Child. Century Child i feel just sorta tails off towards the end. Plus, I much prefer the rich guitar/keyboard tones on Wishmster to the downtuned chugging on the later albums. But that's just me.


I totally respect your opinion, but
I prefer Century Child due to the less power-metal feel wishmaster had. I got really tired of those speedy numbers that seemed to lack depth on Wishmaster. To me Century Child is well balanced, between the fast/slow and heavy/soft ones. Plus I really like the dynamics Marco brought on that album. I also like the fact that Tarja drop down the operatic style down a couple of notches since I really though it was overdone at times on Wishmaster.

Author:  Radagast [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:28 pm ]
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Marco on the first three albums would just be perfect. :)

Author:  grandbazaar [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:35 pm ]
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Radagast wrote:
Marco on the first three albums would just be perfect. :)


Totally agree with you! especially on Angel fall first where Tuomas sings way to often...he's got a terrible voice.

Author:  Radagast [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:38 pm ]
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grandbazaar wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Marco on the first three albums would just be perfect. :)


Totally agree with you! especially on Angel fall first where Tuomas sings way to often...he's got a terrible voice.

Did you hear the re-recording of Astral Romance with Tony Kakko performing Tuomas' parts? Much better.

Author:  The Silent Man [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:17 pm ]
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Wishmaster and AFF are actually both pretty much tied with being my least favorite Nightwish release, but between the two id go for Wishmaster, even if just for The Kinslayer.

Author:  Eyesore [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:36 pm ]
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Radagast wrote:
Wishmaster is their second best, after Oceanborn.

Angels Fall First is their 'weird' album (the debut) - slight ambient and folk touches here and there, generally a lot less polished.

Wrong forum, n00b. :P

Angels Fall First is essentially a demo, especially the Lappi Land tracks. There are some killer songs on it, though. It's just a collection of songs that were never really recorded to actually become an album.

Author:  grandbazaar [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:01 pm ]
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Radagast wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Marco on the first three albums would just be perfect. :)


Totally agree with you! especially on Angel fall first where Tuomas sings way to often...he's got a terrible voice.

Did you hear the re-recording of Astral Romance with Tony Kakko performing Tuomas' parts? Much better.


Yeah I heard it, he also sings on a live version of beauty and the Beast and on Over The Hills and Far Away.
all three tracks can be found on Over The Hills and Far Away CD.

On Nightwish's first DVD you can also see Tony Kakko perform
Beauty and the Beast! Tarja and Tony make a great duo!

Author:  Skartasis [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:18 pm ]
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Wishmaster

omfglolz Skarty listens to Nightwish!

Author:  PyroMan [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:26 pm ]
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I've never found anything wrong with any Nightwish album. I think they are all great. Even AFF have songs like Elvenpath, The Carpenter, Tutankhamen and Nymphomaniac Fantasia ( :roll: ). Tuomas was a nuisance but not that much as to ruin the good expirience out of the album.

Author:  Radagast [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:34 pm ]
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grandbazaar wrote:
Radagast wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Marco on the first three albums would just be perfect. :)


Totally agree with you! especially on Angel fall first where Tuomas sings way to often...he's got a terrible voice.

Did you hear the re-recording of Astral Romance with Tony Kakko performing Tuomas' parts? Much better.


Yeah I heard it, he also sings on a live version of beauty and the Beast and on Over The Hills and Far Away.
all three tracks can be found on Over The Hills and Far Away CD.

On Nightwish's first DVD you can also see Tony Kakko perform
Beauty and the Beast! Tarja and Tony make a great duo!

He looks like such a faglord in that performance. :lol: Ah, I <3 Tony.

Skartasis wrote:
Wishmaster

omfglolz Skarty listens to Nightwish!

+1...oh wait. :?

Author:  EpicMetalFan30 [ Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:28 am ]
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Angels fall first is not even a necessity for a fan..lol
just kidding. I do find it to be the weakest by far.

Author:  Eyesore [ Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:55 am ]
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EpicMetalFan30 wrote:
Angels fall first is not even a necessity for a fan..lol
just kidding. I do find it to be the weakest by far.

It's definitely their weakest. It could have been a killer EP, or shorter full-length. There are too many filler tracks, though.

Killer tracks:

- Elvenpath
- Beauty And The Beast
- Astral Romance
- Tutankhamen
- Nyphomaniac Fantasia
- Know Why The Nightingale Sings

Good tracks:

- The Carpenter
- Sleeping Sun (Bonus Track)
- A Return To The Sea

Filler tracks:

- Angels Fall First
- Lappi (Lapland) I: Erämaajärvi
- Lappi (Lapland) II:Witchdrums
- Lappi (Lapland) III:This Moment Is Eternity *
- Lappi (Lapland) IV:Etiäinen *
- Once Upon A Troubador (Bonus Track)

* from their first three song demo

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