Metal Reviews

I'll agree, but seeing as the term doom is in reference to Candlemass (see Epicus Doomicus Metallicus), it would be more true to say that My Dying Bride doesn't sound very doomish. I have always felt MDB was a gothic metal band with a doom edge (if that makes sense). Candlemass is prototype doom, all who wish to be called doom bands should bow at their feet. The new one is awesome, but I would suggest Epicus Doomicus Metallicus or Nightfall first if you haven't heard them.

Is My Dying Bride more your style than the new Candlemass?

Yeah, Candlemass are Epic Doom which implies a certain amount of Heavy Metal in their sound.. MDB are Doom-Death so they have the harsh vocals and the melancholy. both of them were among the first in their respective sub-genres so I'd say they had equal right to be known as doom.

Doom's quite a big genre as it happens. One could listen to De Mysteris Dom Sathanas and conclude that Bergtatt wasn't BM in the same way, haha. I'm still learning too..

I lean more towards MDB than Candlemass but I'd consider both doom. Epicus Doomicus Metallicus was a pretty awesome album, but I was never really a fan of Messiah's vocal style when he became the focal point on their later albums. Doom metal is the least popular type of underground metal so I think it gets seen as being quite narrow because many metal fans don't know the difference.

Once again, lizardtail, you speak the truth, although I would add that Winter and Paradise Lost are due as much credit as MDB for kickstarting doomdeath. Kathaarian's view of what doom should sound like is a common one, but to me doom is not sad in nature (at least not exclusively), rather it is slow, deliberate, and immensely heavy. After that the description can get a little hazy.

Doom, as a genre, casts an extremely wide net. Its odd to think that Sleep and Shape of Despair essentially belong to the same genre.

yeah, I was initially put off of doom by Anathema's doom-death stuff and didn't think to investigate further for a while, but then I heard Candlemass, the Melvins (who I was sure were grunge, haha) and some Skepticism I realised how varied it could be.

I suppose if someone wants to sample some traditional doom I'd tell 'em Sabbath and St. Vitus, and then the mighty Reverend Bizarre.. Candlemass wouldn't come into it, haha, although they're one of my favourites. and one of everyone's, it looks like.

oh, and about Dragonauta, the only stuff of theirs I've heard I found from torrents, and we know how transient those things are..

Ok, I get it now. Actually My Dying Bride is a band that I can't seem to get into but I cannot stop listening to Candlemass.

I guess I always thought that doom is supposed to be sad and painful like MDB but if you say that's not the case then I should dig deeper into doom and find stuff that I like because I love Candlemass. I'll try to get my hands on Epicus and Nightfall.

Yep, I'm the same way. MDB have their moments, but Candlemass is more my style of doom. If you like Candlemass, you might also want to check out:

Solitude Aeturnus
Reverend Bizarre
Count Raven

Try Sleep or Electric Wizard for a taste of stoner doom, which bears many resemblances to the traditional doom sound of Sabbath or Saint Vitus.

Will do. Thanks.

Would you classify Celestial Season as doom?

From what little I know of them, they begun as Death-Doom and graduated to Stoner, so I'd say they were during that era.. later on I think they're psychedelic or something..

Yes, Forever Scarlet Passion, their debut, is a pretty good doomdeath record. I listened to the follow up, though, and I would not call it doom, hippy rock is a more apt description.

Right, OK. I didn't want to mention them if no one else thought they were doomy! =) Solar Lovers is an awesome album!! But they did change quite a bit. Let's do a visual comparison:



That should say it all. Not as bad as Pyogenesis, though! Holy crap, they're the real life Punky Bruster! Check out their visual comparison:



Much more confusing if you check all their albums: http://www.bnrmetal.com/groups/pyog.htm. They went from a killer doomdeath band to pop punk! :shock: Absoludicrisp! Their first 3 albums are worth checking out, though, especially the first two.

Solar Lovers was definitely a doom-death album.

I guess I may be stretching things a bit. But if I listen to Forever Scarlet Passion and Solar Lovers, they almost sound like two different bands. I guess I could see Solar Lovers as a doomdeath album, but after that, its all treehugger crap.

Right, after Solar Lover they're a different band. Have you ever heard Pyogenesis? Think Celestial Season on their first album, maybe even heavier and darker, and then going Good Charlotte! :shock:

Pyogenesis is good stuff

The punk stuff, too? :shock:

Yes, unfortunately. Very similar in drastic sound change to Celestial Season. Decent band up until they recorded the awful album Twinaleblood, then they are poppy punk bullshit from that point. I whole heartedly agree with your analogy to Good Charlotte, Eyesore. A sad, sad story.....Oh, well, fuck em! I still have Candlemass!!

Well, Celestial Season sort of went off into the stoner/psychadelic realm, which is closely related to doom. Going from a doomdeath band to pop punk is quite different! Hahaha.

Have you guys seen the first Candlemass video? The guy who directed it then moved on to make videos for Madonna, Rolling Stones, Metallica and U2