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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:14 pm 
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of course, being so hot she steals the spotlight... kinda irritating, isn't it? but uh... do she and the other singer have a relationship?

No. She dated the bassist for 10 years, but the they broke up a few years back. She's now dating Root, the guitarist from Slipknot/Stone Sour.


Yet another reason to completey disregard this band lol. I can believe you fools like this Karmakode crap but ok.... I seriously would give it a 2/10 and only two points for the DM cover. Anyways, to each their own but this is a bad, bad album that took 4 years to make.

I am glad they made some money but shit, they could have at least still made Music that got them there. If you can not see that the EP and even Unleashed Memories are a million miles from this you have to be def. Hell just the chorus remotely sound like LC and Ferro's voice is freaking horrid on this. That guy who sang cleans for Darzamat and that other idiot on Crematory's ACT 7 are both better then Ferro and that is saying a lot.

I agree on Nightingale except for the last album which is pretty much AOR/REO Speedwagon crap.


Agreed that their older stuff is better, but a little pop in the formula never hurt anyone. Or is this all pure jealously upon hearing that Christina Scabbia would rather shag a member of Slipknot than you?


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leee wrote:
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of course, being so hot she steals the spotlight... kinda irritating, isn't it? but uh... do she and the other singer have a relationship?

No. She dated the bassist for 10 years, but the they broke up a few years back. She's now dating Root, the guitarist from Slipknot/Stone Sour.


Yet another reason to completey disregard this band lol. I can believe you fools like this Karmakode crap but ok.... I seriously would give it a 2/10 and only two points for the DM cover. Anyways, to each their own but this is a bad, bad album that took 4 years to make.

I am glad they made some money but shit, they could have at least still made Music that got them there. If you can not see that the EP and even Unleashed Memories are a million miles from this you have to be def. Hell just the chorus remotely sound like LC and Ferro's voice is freaking horrid on this. That guy who sang cleans for Darzamat and that other idiot on Crematory's ACT 7 are both better then Ferro and that is saying a lot.

I agree on Nightingale except for the last album which is pretty much AOR/REO Speedwagon crap.


Agreed that their older stuff is better, but a little pop in the formula never hurt anyone. Or is this all pure jealously upon hearing that Christina Scabbia would rather shag a member of Slipknot than you?


:lol:

Seriously, who gives a flying fuck who she's shagging? Whats the difference.
I agree, Karmacode isnt as bad as what your saying. I myself will admit that this album is disappointing, based on how they used to sound. That is what drew me to them. To hear them and to read that they want move into the "nu-metal" sound is disappointing, but the album does have a few highlights.


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Zad wrote:
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of course, being so hot she steals the spotlight... kinda irritating, isn't it? but uh... do she and the other singer have a relationship?

No. She dated the bassist for 10 years, but the they broke up a few years back. She's now dating Root, the guitarist from Slipknot/Stone Sour.


Yet another reason to completey disregard this band lol. I can believe you fools like this Karmakode crap but ok.... I seriously would give it a 2/10 and only two points for the DM cover. Anyways, to each their own but this is a bad, bad album that took 4 years to make.

I am glad they made some money but shit, they could have at least still made Music that got them there. If you can not see that the EP and even Unleashed Memories are a million miles from this you have to be def. Hell just the chorus remotely sound like LC and Ferro's voice is freaking horrid on this. That guy who sang cleans for Darzamat and that other idiot on Crematory's ACT 7 are both better then Ferro and that is saying a lot.

I agree on Nightingale except for the last album which is pretty much AOR/REO Speedwagon crap.


Agreed that their older stuff is better, but a little pop in the formula never hurt anyone. Or is this all pure jealously upon hearing that Christina Scabbia would rather shag a member of Slipknot than you?


Lol, I am a touch old for the Scabbia fantasies and besides I met that chick Heather from Tapping the Vein and she is a lot better IMO.

Some of it is the fact I knew this album was going to suck and bought it anyways and that pissed me off anymore. The main problem I have it is just lazy, shitty song writing, the production isn't very good, and Ferro's voice is horrid. I love Silent Force from Within Temptation, I like Diversity from Entwine, Another Sunday Brite from Marble Arches, even bands like Thine etc. So I know that isn't it. Just this album isn't very good at all.


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Did you buy a bootleg version? The production and the vocals are pefectly fine. You can hate the songs, fine, no problem, but this notion of the vocals somehow being worse and the production being bad is crap. Sorry. It sounds like a case of I-hate-the-music-so-much-I'm-going-to-slam-everything-except-the-Depeche Mode-cover-because-for-some-odd-reason-it's-not-cool-to-bash-Depech Mode. :roll:


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Did you buy a bootleg version? The production and the vocals are pefectly fine. You can hate the songs, fine, no problem, but this notion of the vocals somehow being worse and the production being bad is crap. Sorry. It sounds like a case of I-hate-the-music-so-much-I'm-going-to-slam-everything-except-the-Depeche Mode-cover-because-for-some-odd-reason-it's-not-cool-to-bash-Depech Mode. :roll:


Well you are just wrong, not everyone is you Man. I also make enough money to buy albums, I paid for it unlike a lot of you that are praising it. In fact if you download something I think if you didn't spend your money on it your opinion is crap (unless you were the reviewer like Ken).

Dude we are seriously going to have to just disagree on this. I don't mind poppy and "nu" influences. I even like Ave End from lacrimas profundre, I just don't like this album.

DM isn't my fave band of all time. I am much more a Cure or Joy Division or Sisters of Mercy guy, i just thought it was a cool song and the rest of the album made me want to puke exept that one song in Italian and a ballad so I dug that cover a lot.

Depeche Mode had a bunch of gay shit too so is cool to bash them in front of me.

And you know what you are just as bad as me except from the opposite end, cause I guarantee any album you know people are gong to hate big time (like this LC or new In Flames) I think you already have your mind made up too dig it before you even hear it so you can have the holier then though opinion about "change".

For christs sakes man I can dig Edenbridge and Visions of Atlantis but I can't stomach the new Lacuna Coil and think everything about it is lazy and poorly written and produced and you are just going to have to deal with that.


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leee wrote:
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Did you buy a bootleg version? The production and the vocals are pefectly fine. You can hate the songs, fine, no problem, but this notion of the vocals somehow being worse and the production being bad is crap. Sorry. It sounds like a case of I-hate-the-music-so-much-I'm-going-to-slam-everything-except-the-Depeche Mode-cover-because-for-some-odd-reason-it's-not-cool-to-bash-Depech Mode. :roll:


Well you are just wrong, not everyone is you Man. I also make enough money to buy albums, I paid for it unlike a lot of you that are praising it. In fact if you download something I think if you didn't spend your money on it your opinion is crap (unless you were the reviewer like Ken).


Ummm... Eyesore = Ken. They are one and the same person.


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Did you buy a bootleg version? The production and the vocals are pefectly fine. You can hate the songs, fine, no problem, but this notion of the vocals somehow being worse and the production being bad is crap. Sorry. It sounds like a case of I-hate-the-music-so-much-I'm-going-to-slam-everything-except-the-Depeche Mode-cover-because-for-some-odd-reason-it's-not-cool-to-bash-Depech Mode. :roll:


Well you are just wrong, not everyone is you Man. I also make enough money to buy albums, I paid for it unlike a lot of you that are praising it. In fact if you download something I think if you didn't spend your money on it your opinion is crap (unless you were the reviewer like Ken).


Ummm... Eyesore = Ken. They are one and the same person.


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Hmm... I always wondered why I never saw Ken and Eyesore in the same room together.


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Hmm... I always wondered why I never saw Ken and Eyesore in the same room together.


That's because Ken is Eyesore's alternate account-life. He goes and joins the marines and stuff, just to screw around with us, that nu-metaller.


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leee wrote:
Well you are just wrong, not everyone is you Man. I also make enough money to buy albums, I paid for it unlike a lot of you that are praising it. In fact if you download something I think if you didn't spend your money on it your opinion is crap (unless you were the reviewer like Ken).

I hope this wasn't directed at me? I own over 5,000 real CDs. I don't download and talk shit.

As for the rest of what you wrote, I think you're just taking it too far. This isn't Lacuna's St. Anger, yet your opinion on it would suggest it. I don't think the album is amazing, I think it's very good. I don't find any issues with the production, nor do I hear any difference in the vocals, if anything Scabbia has kicked it up a notch and is singing even more powerful on this one. Ferro is the same, nothing has changed. He's never been an amazing vocalist to begin with. Sure, he didn't go very heavy on this album at all, but it's not like he's ever gone heavy on a consistent basis, maybe 6 or 7 songs over the course of their career.

We can disagree, that's cool. You don't like it, I do. I just feel like some of your opinions that extend beyond the music are unfounded, but you're entitled to have that opinion. It's cool with me. :)


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Why do people rip on Ferro all the time? He's not that bad a vocalist, and if you listen pre-Comalies, the guy's got a pretty impressive growl.

A bit of variation in the male vocalists is good. None of LC's songs would be the same if Ferro could sing like "normal" singers.


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Hmm... I always wondered why I never saw Ken and Eyesore in the same room together.


That's because Ken is Eyesore's alternate account-life. He goes and joins the marines and stuff, just to screw around with us, that nu-metaller.

Ken's a fag!

Also, the reason why I mentioned the Depeche Mode thing is because I keep reading all these negative comments on this album all over the net and they're all like, "This album fucking sucks, but the Depeche Mode cover is awesome!" :shock: Hehe. It makes no sense to me. :lol:


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Why do people rip on Ferro all the time? He's not that bad a vocalist, and if you listen pre-Comalies, the guy's got a pretty impressive growl.

A bit of variation in the male vocalists is good. None of LC's songs would be the same if Ferro could sing like "normal" singers.

He's not that bad at all, just not that great. He's rather ordinary, that's what I meant.


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Why do people rip on Ferro all the time? He's not that bad a vocalist, and if you listen pre-Comalies, the guy's got a pretty impressive growl.

A bit of variation in the male vocalists is good. None of LC's songs would be the same if Ferro could sing like "normal" singers.


He's not that bad at all, just not that great. He's rather ordinary, that's what I meant.


Yes. "Distinctive"'s the word I'm looking for.


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I know Ken is Eyesore you bunch of idiots.......lol


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Zad wrote:
Why do people rip on Ferro all the time? He's not that bad a vocalist, and if you listen pre-Comalies, the guy's got a pretty impressive growl.

A bit of variation in the male vocalists is good. None of LC's songs would be the same if Ferro could sing like "normal" singers.


Ferro was cool before Karmacode, now he sounds like everybody else.


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Why do people rip on Ferro all the time? He's not that bad a vocalist, and if you listen pre-Comalies, the guy's got a pretty impressive growl.

A bit of variation in the male vocalists is good. None of LC's songs would be the same if Ferro could sing like "normal" singers.


Ferro was cool before Karmacode, now he sounds like everybody else.


Yes? Annoying. :(


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I really think his vocals suck. They just sound crap! Hard to say why exactly... But then I don't think Christina is a really good singer either.


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I really think his vocals suck. They just sound crap! Hard to say why exactly... But then I don't think Christina is a really good singer either.


Not when you compare her to say, Tarja Turununununen, but there's a real emotional kick there, which not many singers can hit.

Anyway, I don't judge vocalists by how well they can sing. The guy from Blind Guardian's actually pretty crap, but he fits the music and makes it sound great. Heard Barney on "Morale" from Napalm Death's latest? Voice fits, can't sing. I could go on, but you get the point...


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I really think his vocals suck. They just sound crap! Hard to say why exactly... But then I don't think Christina is a really good singer either.

Yup. Two of the reasons LC are shite. :D


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