There's very little black metal in their music. More like a harsher gothenburg with black metal vocals.

black metal is basically a worse version of gothenburg anyways so whatever

black metal is basically a worse version of gothenburg anyways so whatever

i was kidding

but gothenburg and melodic BM sound practically the same to me, most of the difference is in the vocals @_@

The more I listen to them, the more I hear Gothenburg.

I feel the same way as this. Although, there is kind of a grim frostbitten atmosphere that comes from BM that most gothenburg stuff doesn't have.

Exactly. The music isn't very black metal although there are influences, but the atmosphere it conveys is very close to it. I don't care what it is, or isn't, however, their first two albums are superior to any black metal album I know either way.

Pfft. Yes, black metal is all atmosphere but black metal is black metal. And gothenburg is gothenburg. By that logic someone can make a black metal record with a string quartet, which somehow seemed like a good idea instantly as I was trying to prove the opposite.


Hmmm. Can something still be black metal but made with other instruments and/or following other influences in music (like gothenburg in this case)?

I think this can make a thread of his own. I'm not so sure about my answer, honestly.

But is BM only music?
Take a look on Sunn O))) - Black One. It's Doom/Drone but the atmosphere is pure black metal.

Take some records of Henrik Nordvargr Bjork. Mz.412 for instance. It's industrial, dark ambient but the atmosphere is pure black metal.