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Author:  December Flower [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:30 am ]
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from Metal-Rules:


Paula Hogan of MANIC Music & Distribution and Candlelight Records USA has contacted BLABBERMOUTH.NET to report that "eBay is [allegedly] currently starting a ban on black/extreme metal. A few of our vendors who have sizeable eBay stores are now finding their items pulled down by eBay directly. The list we have compiled so far that have been pulled for sale via any eBay stores or auctions is noted below. I'm sure there are more."

Added Dan Ferguson of Indianapolis, IN's Abyss Records: "I had a number of items removed and account suspended by selling black metal. It seems a group of so-called Christians have been reporting black metal bands (even though eBay has black metal as a search genre) as all racist and hateful and discriminatory."

The items that were allegedly removed by eBay because they "violated the eBay Hateful or Discriminatory policy" are as follows:

BURZUM - Complete 6 LP SET
EMPEROR - IX Equilibrium ORIG. LP
WOTANORDEN - From The.. CD
BURZUM - s/t / Aske DOUBLE LP
1349 - Beyond The CD
DARKTHRONE - Panzerfaust CD
MAYHEM - Collection 4 LP SET
PANTHEON - Krihapentswor CD
DARKTHRONE - Total Death CD
BURZUM - Draugen CD DVD
BURZUM - Daudi Baldrs LP
BURZUM - Daudi Baldrs CD
ZYKLON B - Blood Must Be Shed CD
ARMAGGEDON - Imperium CD
EMPEROR - Demo LP
1349 - Hellfire DOUBLE LP
DARKTHRONE - Hate Them CD
BURZUM - Filosofem DOUBLE LP
BURZUM - Hlidskjalf LP
BURZUM - Det Som Engang Var DIGI CD
CAMULOS / AINSHVAL - Split CD
BURZUM - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss LP
BURZUM - Det Som Engang Var LP
NOKTURNAL MORTUM - Weltanschauung CD
SATYRICON - Now, Diabolical CD

In eBay's e-mail to Ferguson explaining their decision to remove his listing, they write, "eBay doesn't permit sellers to list items that promote or glorify hatred, violence, or racial intolerance. Items that promote organizations with such views are also prohibited.

"eBay will judiciously disallow listings or items that promote or glorify hatred, violence or racial intolerance, or items that promote organizations (such as Nazis, neo-Nazis and Aryan Nation) with such views. This policy also applies to listings that offer shipping to countries where certain items may be illegal."

To review eBay's list of Prohibited, Questionable, and Infringing items, click here. To learn more about why eBay may remove listings, go to this location.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... emID=58406


Words can't describe how retarded this is :sad:
Author:  Astaroth [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:06 pm ]
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very annoying, indeed. :mad:

now it get's even harder to find those awsome rareties. Hopefully i can still get Vinterriket and Paysage D'hiver.
Is it only black metal or will the same happen to death metal?
Author:  December Flower [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:11 pm ]
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Astaroth wrote:
very annoying, indeed. :mad:

now it get's even harder to find those awsome rareties. Hopefully i can still get Vinterriket and Paysage D'hiver.
Is it only black metal or will the same happen to death metal?


I don't really know...all those albums listed are BM, but it says "black/extreme metal. ANyway this is completely ridiculous, I mean, extreme metal isn't exactly the only genre that "promotes or glorifies" hatred and/or violence... :lame:
Author:  Dago [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:31 pm ]
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I bet in something like 40 years there will be a policy that will prohibit completely to listen to any kind of metal.
Author:  Astaroth [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:47 pm ]
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Dago wrote:
I bet in something like 40 years there will be a policy that will prohibit completely to listen to any kind of metal.


he he, yeah.. probably...
that would probably fit black metal just well. Very undergroundish like in Russia back in the days. Just like in Iran where black metal illegal, yet a few ppl make black metal in that country. :wink:

no, it actually kinda suck. But these days ppl are more religious than they were 30-10 years ago, at least in my country. But who knows, it'll probably change over time, so one generation is religous, the next generation is rebelling against the old generation, thus not as religious and visa versa.


anyway, i can see what's wrong selling black metal on ebay. It's only a few ppl who buy it anyway, so it's not really any remarkable hate spreading or anything, besides, ppl can just get it elsewhere anyway. So they have stopped nothing!!! :dio:
Author:  Misha [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:52 pm ]
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I don't think it'll be a big issue here, in the Netherlands, people don't give a shit about religion. It's ridiculed by commedians to further extend than what black metal can ever do.
Author:  Astaroth [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:04 pm ]
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Misha wrote:
I don't think it'll be a big issue here, in the Netherlands, people don't give a shit about religion. It's ridiculed by commedians to further extend than what black metal can ever do.


just like the most famous commedian in denmark who dropped a bomb during his show this year " Shit christians in the mouth!!!", of course half of the audience didn't find all that funny, he he. It's worth mentioning that his show was split in two parts, one very possitive about everything and very negative about the everything, same matters that where talked possitive about in the first part, except the christianthing, which was only brought up in the negative part.
Author:  Ness [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:24 pm ]
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Lame lame lame lame fucking lame. Dago is right, all metal will be banned before long. Ebay has lost a customer.

Edit - I checked and their stuff is still up for sale.
Author:  Astaroth [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:45 pm ]
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metalNESS wrote:
Lame lame lame lame fucking lame. Dago is right, all metal will be banned before long. Ebay has lost a customer.

Edit - I checked and their stuff is still up for sale.


yup.
perhaps it's only the big labels that aren't allowed to sell. I actually think this is somewhat "old news", cuz several sellers have been writing " Freedom of Speech... this Moonblood tape is not racistic nor hateful, so plz don't remove it.." etc etc for several months now.
anywho, i ebay wants to free itself from hateful stuff or stuff that can cause hate to accur, then they have a big problem. Then religious books, ferrari, science, rap etc etc. has to go too.
Author:  ganeshaRules [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:59 pm ]
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hey, in ebay they sell Bibles, Koran and other holy books, that have caused a lot of hate in all ages... if they ban black metal, they have to ban all that shit too.
Author:  Azrael [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:27 pm ]
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dunno, it's hard to draw a line, they'll have to ban lots of things if they're trying to stop stuff promoting violence and hate..
Author:  Radagast [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:05 pm ]
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Holy fucking retarded, Batman.
Author:  Al@metalreviews [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:24 pm ]
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Am I the only one that's confused as to why Now, Diabolical is on that list!? If it was Nemesis Divina or something I'd be mildly surprised but Now, Diabolical!?
Author:  Jürgen [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:35 pm ]
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Suffer, EBay faggots.
Author:  drakanripper [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:47 pm ]
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Al@metalreviews wrote:
Am I the only one that's confused as to why Now, Diabolical is on that list!? If it was Nemesis Divina or something I'd be mildly surprised but Now, Diabolical!?


Totally agree.. I dont get how that Album gets on the list
Author:  The_Voice [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:46 pm ]
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Astaroth wrote:
very annoying, indeed. :mad:

now it get's even harder to find those awsome rareties. Hopefully i can still get Vinterriket and Paysage D'hiver.
Is it only black metal or will the same happen to death metal?


In my local metal store there are a couple of Vinterriket 7" picture Lps that come bolted to pieces of wood, are they any good?.
Author:  Rhys [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:30 am ]
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VARG is a racist, but you cant say that
BURZUM is a racist project.

Also, Hate Them???? The only hateful; thing is the title, other than that the lyrics are mostly suicidal or about evil/satan :lame:

And Hellfire? WTF?
Author:  Astaroth [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:04 pm ]
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The_Voice wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
very annoying, indeed. :mad:

now it get's even harder to find those awsome rareties. Hopefully i can still get Vinterriket and Paysage D'hiver.
Is it only black metal or will the same happen to death metal?


In my local metal store there are a couple of Vinterriket 7" picture Lps that come bolted to pieces of wood, are they any good?.


haven't heard it. I once won it on ebay, but i didn't get it, since the seller realized it wasn't in stock, he already sold it. Got my money back of course
Author:  Mintrude [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:04 pm ]
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I think if you kill someone or something because you heard it on a record, you have to be an idiot. Having said that, there are a hellm of a lot of idiots out there. This seems to me like another insidious form of headnager persecution.
Author:  Goat [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:49 am ]
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Idiotic. As Ganesha said, are they going to ban the Bible and Koran as well?
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